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Post by newsteadst3 on May 18, 2020 7:19:12 GMT
Did Hendrie turn down the chance to sign for us permanently? Quite liked him as a player and did ok with us Last time I remember seeing his name he was playing in Jakarta He did bloody brilliant with us Totally agree, we started to change for the better as a team when he signed
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Post by werrington on May 18, 2020 7:35:48 GMT
He was the catalyst for what we achieved
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Post by RF10 on May 18, 2020 8:16:20 GMT
He was the catalyst for what we achieved I agree along side the signing of Diao.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2020 8:27:42 GMT
Did Hendrie turn down the chance to sign for us permanently? Quite liked him as a player and did ok with us Last time I remember seeing his name he was playing in Jakarta Yeah there’s an interview in a paper somewhere with him and he says something about how Stoke and Pulis were brilliant with him but we simply couldn’t match the offer that Sheffield United put time him. We had some real good loan players to be fair in The Championship. Crossley for me kept us up that season and Patrick Berger was a great coup later on.
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Post by Squeekster on May 18, 2020 10:44:18 GMT
Did I read that he regretted not signing for us in the end?
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Post by stantheman on May 18, 2020 10:44:22 GMT
I've also read somewhere that he regretted massively going to Sheffield United for the money. Bryan Robson was manager at the time and it didn't work out for them.
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Post by Miles Offside on May 18, 2020 11:19:24 GMT
Talking Total sense: Roughly Translated: Stoke should be all about the Nitty Gritty. Doing the basics right. No Frills. Organised formation required. Hughes introduced flair football but failed. SCFC have lost their identity. Need to be more aggressive. Earn the right to wear the shirt. Disastrous signings. Characters in the dressing room required. I could see he was holding back what he really thought. Looked really pissed off at what was happening at Stoke. Agree with most of that except it's not right to say that Hughes introduced flair and failed. There was a spell under Hughes where the football was brilliant before he broke the club's finances, wrecked the dressing room spirit and left us heading for relegation.
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Post by thevoid on May 18, 2020 15:17:15 GMT
Sorry, it’s bullshit to suggest we can only ever aspire to hoofball with 10 men behind the ball and we should’ve just rugged out forelocks and known our place. Hughes didn’t fail because he ‘introduced flair’. It was that that allowed his teams to surpass Pulis in terms of league performance. It was actually when he started to shit it and play more negatively that things started going wrong for him. We’re not in this mess because we dared to dream of something more expansive and ambitious, we are where we are because we grew horrendously complacent and then made a series of hideous recruitment decisions on the pitch and in the dugout. Nobody mentioned Hoofball. Hughes did ultimately fail because of his desire to change the DNA of our football in the short term. It was doomed to failure, especially when you have the insight to pay £50million for 3 bags of horse manure. How do you explain higher placings in his first three seasons?
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Post by Marc01 on May 18, 2020 19:17:32 GMT
Yeah there’s an interview in a paper somewhere with him and he says something about how Stoke and Pulis were brilliant with him but we simply couldn’t match the offer that Sheffield United put time him. We had some real good loan players to be fair in The Championship. Crossley for me kept us up that season and Patrick Berger was a great coup later on. Both Crossley and Hendrie were top loan signings, but over 3 years apart. Crossley's impact in goal was incredible to help us survive in the first season back in the Championship in 2002/03. We actually signed him twice that season; he was recalled after just one game on the first occasion. Possibly one of our best ever loan signings and best GK loan. Hendrie was definitely a statement of intent. A bit like Bruce Grobbelaar in 92/93. TP signed some really effective loan players especially after we lost 6-0 at Forest in February 2003. I think Lee Mills (ex Vale and another loanee) scored the winner in the next game at home to Walsall. It's a good job he signed good loan players; we lost just 3 of the last 14 after that 6-0 defeat and only just survived. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Crossley
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 18, 2020 19:20:55 GMT
I remember him coming back with Sheff Utd and getting dogs abuse when he was sat on the bench in front of me.His decision not to sign for us was a big mistake for me at the time
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2020 20:53:04 GMT
Sorry, it’s bullshit to suggest we can only ever aspire to hoofball with 10 men behind the ball and we should’ve just rugged out forelocks and known our place. Hughes didn’t fail because he ‘introduced flair’. It was that that allowed his teams to surpass Pulis in terms of league performance. It was actually when he started to shit it and play more negatively that things started going wrong for him. We’re not in this mess because we dared to dream of something more expansive and ambitious, we are where we are because we grew horrendously complacent and then made a series of hideous recruitment decisions on the pitch and in the dugout. Nobody mentioned Hoofball. Hughes did ultimately fail because of his desire to change the DNA of our football in the short term. It was doomed to failure, especially when you have the insight to pay £50million for 3 bags of horse manure. Pennant and ethers on the wing Ric / Beattie up top Lee hendrie / nzonzi in the middle Hoofball ? If that's hoofball Bring on the hoofball
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Post by SamB_SCFC on May 18, 2020 21:30:39 GMT
He was the catalyst for what we achieved Agree. We signed him, Fuller, Diao, Delap, Lawrence and Griffin within a few weeks of each other (some loan, some permanent, some loan later to be made permanent) and they instantly added some real quality and class to our team that moved us up to a level that we hadn't played at for decades. Hendrie's quality and vision was a class above almost anything else in this division and it laid the platform for what we achieved in the following season. He was also a sit up and take notice signing. He was still a big name at the time and still under 30 and his initial motivation for coming here was to play his way back into the Villa team at a time when they were still a big club. Having him on board almost certainly helped convince some of the other players I listed above to come here and proved that we had ambitions to move beyond where we'd been for the past 20 years or so.
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Post by werrington on May 19, 2020 5:16:42 GMT
He was the catalyst for what we achieved Agree. We signed him, Fuller, Diao, Delap, Lawrence and Griffin within a few weeks of each other (some loan, some permanent, some loan later to be made permanent) and they instantly added some real quality and class to our team that moved us up to a level that we hadn't played at for decades. Hendrie's quality and vision was a class above almost anything else in this division and it laid the platform for what we achieved in the following season. He was also a sit up and take notice signing. He was still a big name at the time and still under 30 and his initial motivation for coming here was to play his way back into the Villa team at a time when they were still a big club. Having him on board almost certainly helped convince some of the other players I listed above to come here and proved that we had ambitions to move beyond where we'd been for the past 20 years or so. Patrick Berger also mate
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Post by logdog on May 20, 2020 14:31:11 GMT
Agree. We signed him, Fuller, Diao, Delap, Lawrence and Griffin within a few weeks of each other (some loan, some permanent, some loan later to be made permanent) and they instantly added some real quality and class to our team that moved us up to a level that we hadn't played at for decades. Hendrie's quality and vision was a class above almost anything else in this division and it laid the platform for what we achieved in the following season. He was also a sit up and take notice signing. He was still a big name at the time and still under 30 and his initial motivation for coming here was to play his way back into the Villa team at a time when they were still a big club. Having him on board almost certainly helped convince some of the other players I listed above to come here and proved that we had ambitions to move beyond where we'd been for the past 20 years or so. Patrick Berger also mate Pulis made some very good signings around this time. Danny Higginbotham was another.
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Post by bolders on May 20, 2020 14:35:16 GMT
I remember him coming back with Sheff Utd and getting dogs abuse when he was sat on the bench in front of me.His decision not to sign for us was a big mistake for me at the time Think I heard him say that he regretted not signing full time
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 20, 2020 14:38:55 GMT
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Post by mattythestokie on May 20, 2020 15:11:34 GMT
He was the catalyst for what we achieved Agree. We signed him, Fuller, Diao, Delap, Lawrence and Griffin within a few weeks of each other (some loan, some permanent, some loan later to be made permanent) and they instantly added some real quality and class to our team that moved us up to a level that we hadn't played at for decades. Hendrie's quality and vision was a class above almost anything else in this division and it laid the platform for what we achieved in the following season. He was also a sit up and take notice signing. He was still a big name at the time and still under 30 and his initial motivation for coming here was to play his way back into the Villa team at a time when they were still a big club. Having him on board almost certainly helped convince some of the other players I listed above to come here and proved that we had ambitions to move beyond where we'd been for the past 20 years or so. You could definitely say that. But playing devils advocate - Hendrie, Diao and Griffin were all not with us for the start of the following season, as well as Jonathon Fortune. Add to this the fact that Hoefkins and Higginbotham would then leave us. Our squad had some serious holes in it going into the 07/08 season. You’d of thought we’d of done a lot worse that season.
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Post by lordb on May 20, 2020 16:07:17 GMT
Agree. We signed him, Fuller, Diao, Delap, Lawrence and Griffin within a few weeks of each other (some loan, some permanent, some loan later to be made permanent) and they instantly added some real quality and class to our team that moved us up to a level that we hadn't played at for decades. Hendrie's quality and vision was a class above almost anything else in this division and it laid the platform for what we achieved in the following season. He was also a sit up and take notice signing. He was still a big name at the time and still under 30 and his initial motivation for coming here was to play his way back into the Villa team at a time when they were still a big club. Having him on board almost certainly helped convince some of the other players I listed above to come here and proved that we had ambitions to move beyond where we'd been for the past 20 years or so. You could definitely say that. But playing devils advocate - Hendrie, Diao and Griffin were all not with us for the start of the following season, as well as Jonathon Fortune. Add to this the fact that Hoefkins and Higginbotham would then leave us. Our squad had some serious holes in it going into the 07/08 season. You’d of thought we’d of done a lot worse that season. some youngster called Ryan came in, he did alright...
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Post by Cast no shadow on May 20, 2020 21:37:26 GMT
Just scored the winner vs the Germans
Lee Lee, Lee Hendrie.
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Post by cymap on May 21, 2020 11:58:59 GMT
Dunno if its already been posted but quite sad to hear him talk about his depression
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Post by foxysgloves on May 21, 2020 13:14:40 GMT
Dunno if its already been posted but quite sad to hear him talk about his depression Sad. But inspiring too. All three of them. Jones, Merson and Hendrie. Sad but genuinely impressive.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 21, 2020 13:21:46 GMT
Definitely a signing that made you sit up and take notice of the direction we wanted to be heading in.
Like Berger, even though he was useless for us, it was a big signing.
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Post by cobhamstokey on May 21, 2020 22:35:01 GMT
He did a short talk last season at the 1863 suite before the game and came accross well. He seems a decent bloke hopefully things are looking up for him now.
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Post by wilcopotter on May 22, 2020 10:44:51 GMT
Was playing in the Birmingham over 35’s league last I heard from Villa mate a year ago, he may still be.
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Post by mattythestokie on May 23, 2020 19:25:43 GMT
Didn’t realise he was a Leicester player the day we got promoted in 2008.
Must have been painful for the guy that day.
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