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Post by matelot1996 on Dec 20, 2019 22:26:54 GMT
Talking Total sense: Roughly Translated:
Stoke should be all about the Nitty Gritty. Doing the basics right. No Frills. Organised formation required. Hughes introduced flair football but failed. SCFC have lost their identity. Need to be more aggressive. Earn the right to wear the shirt. Disastrous signings. Characters in the dressing room required.
I could see he was holding back what he really thought. Looked really pissed off at what was happening at Stoke.
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Post by starkerz14 on Dec 20, 2019 22:37:07 GMT
Have to agree with everything he said, sign him up, he’s probably still better than Ince
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Post by wuzza on Dec 20, 2019 22:38:28 GMT
Have to admit the bloke has surprised me. Never would have had him down as a pundit type but he is generally quite good at it.
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Post by Los Alfareros on Dec 20, 2019 22:40:00 GMT
Banged his ex missus
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Post by sheriffofrockridge on Dec 20, 2019 22:41:49 GMT
If only he could construct a comprehensible sentence. He makes Adebayo Akinfenwa sound like Richard Burton.
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Post by sportsman on Dec 20, 2019 22:42:32 GMT
I like him but thought he just banging out cliches without actually sounding like he really knew anything about us.
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Post by Vermelho20312505 on Dec 20, 2019 22:44:04 GMT
I agree with one exception. I'm sick of hearing this shit about Hughes trying to change the style of play and failing.
He was a massive success for 3 years and the poor signings and losing discipline cost him and us everything.
Those comments are the same simplistic shit that people who know nothing about our club spout. They also believe Pulis and Delap only left a couple of years ago!
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 20, 2019 22:45:47 GMT
Sorry, it’s bullshit to suggest we can only ever aspire to hoofball with 10 men behind the ball and we should’ve just tugged our forelocks and known our place.
Hughes didn’t fail because he ‘introduced flair’. It was that that allowed his teams to surpass Pulis in terms of league performance. It was actually when he started to shit it and play more negatively that things started going wrong for him.
We’re not in this mess because we dared to dream of something more expansive and ambitious, we are where we are because we grew horrendously complacent and then made a series of hideous recruitment decisions on the pitch and in the dugout.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2019 22:47:22 GMT
I think he's a rubbish pundit that tied himself up in knots before and during the Preston game earlier in the season.
Stealing a living.
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Post by Vermelho20312505 on Dec 20, 2019 22:47:25 GMT
Sorry, it’s bullshit to suggest we can only ever aspire to hoofball with 10 men behind the ball and we should’ve just rugged out forelocks and known our place. Hughes didn’t fail because he ‘introduced flair’. It was that that allowed his teams to surpass Pulis in terms of league performance. It was actually when he started to shit it and play more negatively that things started going wrong for him. We’re not in this mess because we dared to dream of something more expansive and ambitious, we are where we are because we grew horrendously complacent and then made a series of hideous recruitment decisions on the pitch and in the dugout. This. Put it better than I did!
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Post by matelot1996 on Dec 20, 2019 22:49:03 GMT
I like him but thought he just banging out cliches without actually sounding like he really knew anything about us. No, my post was condensed cliches of his “thoughts”. He spoke with a lot more passion and knowledge about the rapid decline of Stoke City.
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Post by matelot1996 on Dec 20, 2019 22:54:54 GMT
Sorry, it’s bullshit to suggest we can only ever aspire to hoofball with 10 men behind the ball and we should’ve just rugged out forelocks and known our place. Hughes didn’t fail because he ‘introduced flair’. It was that that allowed his teams to surpass Pulis in terms of league performance. It was actually when he started to shit it and play more negatively that things started going wrong for him. We’re not in this mess because we dared to dream of something more expansive and ambitious, we are where we are because we grew horrendously complacent and then made a series of hideous recruitment decisions on the pitch and in the dugout. Nobody mentioned Hoofball. Hughes did ultimately fail because of his desire to change the DNA of our football in the short term. It was doomed to failure, especially when you have the insight to pay £50million for 3 bags of horse manure.
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Post by Pugsley on Dec 20, 2019 23:08:34 GMT
Lee Hendrie spouted complete and utter shite.
What the fuck is it with Stoke City supporters? Nitty gritty, flair, aggression... they aren't mutually exclusive ffs
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Dec 20, 2019 23:11:47 GMT
Lee Hendrie spouted complete and utter shite. What the fuck is it with Stoke City supporters? Nitty gritty, flair, aggression... they aren't mutually exclusive ffs they are just exclusive exclusive when you’re talking about our players!
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Post by Gob Bluth on Dec 20, 2019 23:14:27 GMT
They’re not mutually exclusive but it’s a fair strategy when everything appears to be going wrong to strip things back and keep things simple. Leave the players with very basic instructions so they can at least get something right.
Let’s not turn on Lee, it’s hardly his fault.
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Post by anto on Dec 20, 2019 23:14:27 GMT
Sorry, it’s bullshit to suggest we can only ever aspire to hoofball with 10 men behind the ball and we should’ve just rugged out forelocks and known our place. Hughes didn’t fail because he ‘introduced flair’. It was that that allowed his teams to surpass Pulis in terms of league performance. It was actually when he started to shit it and play more negatively that things started going wrong for him. We’re not in this mess because we dared to dream of something more expansive and ambitious, we are where we are because we grew horrendously complacent and then made a series of hideous recruitment decisions on the pitch and in the dugout. Spot on
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Post by matelot1996 on Dec 20, 2019 23:15:58 GMT
Lee Hendrie spouted complete and utter shite. What the fuck is it with Stoke City supporters? Nitty gritty, flair, aggression... they aren't mutually exclusive ffs They are the basics of ANY good side. Even Barcelona have the Nitty Gritty, aggressive qualities. It just so happens they also have shit loads of quality. Do you think Stoke are exempt from these fundamental building blocks? You cannot have a successful side without these basics. What is it with Stoke Supporters? I don’t know you tell me.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Dec 20, 2019 23:18:18 GMT
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 20, 2019 23:25:40 GMT
Sorry, it’s bullshit to suggest we can only ever aspire to hoofball with 10 men behind the ball and we should’ve just rugged out forelocks and known our place. Hughes didn’t fail because he ‘introduced flair’. It was that that allowed his teams to surpass Pulis in terms of league performance. It was actually when he started to shit it and play more negatively that things started going wrong for him. We’re not in this mess because we dared to dream of something more expansive and ambitious, we are where we are because we grew horrendously complacent and then made a series of hideous recruitment decisions on the pitch and in the dugout. Nobody mentioned Hoofball. Hughes did ultimately fail because of his desire to change the DNA of our football in the short term. It was doomed to failure, especially when you have the insight to pay £50million for 3 bags of horse manure. That’s what they mean though don’t they? Our ‘identity’ doesn’t have to be inextricably linked to Pulisball and we shouldn’t feel guilty for wanting to move beyond it when it couldn’t take us any further. Why was Hughes ‘doomed to fail’ when he surpassed previous Premier League finishes? Again, it was him reverting to negativity with a squad that couldn’t deliver it that really fucked things, not any desire to incorporate a bit more creativity - that desire actually improved us?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 20, 2019 23:26:31 GMT
The stuff about Hughes is horseshit.
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Post by Pugsley on Dec 20, 2019 23:27:39 GMT
Lee Hendrie spouted complete and utter shite. What the fuck is it with Stoke City supporters? Nitty gritty, flair, aggression... they aren't mutually exclusive ffs They are the basics of ANY good side. Even Barcelona have the Nitty Gritty, aggressive qualities. It just so happens they also have shit loads of quality. Do you think Stoke are exempt from these fundamental building blocks? You cannot have a successful side without these basics. What is it with Stoke Supporters? I don’t know you tell me. Oh dear.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 20, 2019 23:27:45 GMT
He was spot on about Ince at half time
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2019 23:41:44 GMT
I think he's a rubbish pundit that tied himself up in knots before and during the Preston game earlier in the season. Stealing a living. Spot on. He's a wank pundit and hasn't got the first clue what he isn talking about regarding Stoke. He's like a lot of ex Stoke players who played under Pulis during our good times.
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Post by matelot1996 on Dec 20, 2019 23:53:56 GMT
They are the basics of ANY good side. Even Barcelona have the Nitty Gritty, aggressive qualities. It just so happens they also have shit loads of quality. Do you think Stoke are exempt from these fundamental building blocks? You cannot have a successful side without these basics. What is it with Stoke Supporters? I don’t know you tell me. Oh dear. That doesn’t count as a sensible reply.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2020 22:38:48 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2020 22:46:37 GMT
Did Hendrie turn down the chance to sign for us permanently? Quite liked him as a player and did ok with us
Last time I remember seeing his name he was playing in Jakarta
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Post by santy on May 18, 2020 1:50:01 GMT
Got a bigger offer elsewhere and if I remember rightly his finances weren't in the best of shape.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2020 4:08:30 GMT
Got a bigger offer elsewhere and if I remember rightly his finances weren't in the best of shape. I remember he lost everything and had a bit of rough time but wasn't it him boasting to an opposition player re cleaning his car? Colchester away was it or did I imagine that?
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Post by PotterLog on May 18, 2020 4:22:36 GMT
Did Hendrie turn down the chance to sign for us permanently? Quite liked him as a player and did ok with us Last time I remember seeing his name he was playing in Jakarta He did bloody brilliant with us
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Post by mattythestokie on May 18, 2020 6:20:15 GMT
Did Hendrie turn down the chance to sign for us permanently? Quite liked him as a player and did ok with us Last time I remember seeing his name he was playing in Jakarta Yeah there’s an interview in a paper somewhere with him and he says something about how Stoke and Pulis were brilliant with him but we simply couldn’t match the offer that Sheffield United put time him.
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