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Post by Rt Hon Reverend Luvpump on Aug 24, 2020 12:32:22 GMT
Their was obviously a problem in the dressing room MON seems to have sorted it out, why would you upset that,the team seems to be moving in the right direction now. The infamous "problem in the dressing room" statement came while Etebo was away. If Etebo had some minor grievance inside the dressing room before that - it's still just a rumour - then it's the manager's job to talk with the player and lay down the law, or make an effort to understand where a player from a different culture is coming from. Even Pulis could do that.. So surely if there was no problem the manager wouldn’t have sanctioned one of the best midfielder’s at the club a loan away ? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2020 12:59:14 GMT
I don't think he's a problem in the dressing room, he's just not very good. No football brain and no end product. Reminds me of a kid at school who everyone things is great until they realise nothing comes of his mazy dribbles and can't/won't pass to them.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2020 13:09:27 GMT
The infamous "problem in the dressing room" statement came while Etebo was away. If Etebo had some minor grievance inside the dressing room before that - it's still just a rumour - then it's the manager's job to talk with the player and lay down the law, or make an effort to understand where a player from a different culture is coming from. Even Pulis could do that.. So surely if there was no problem the manager wouldn’t have sanctioned one of the best midfielder’s at the club a loan away ? The player wanted to play at a higher level to keep in his place in the Nigerian national team, That's a pretty natural inclination. O'Neill as a former, then even current, national manager will have been understanding and supportive of that. |
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Post by Rt Hon Reverend Luvpump on Aug 24, 2020 15:27:29 GMT
So surely if there was no problem the manager wouldn’t have sanctioned one of the best midfielder’s at the club a loan away ? The player wanted to play at a higher level to keep in his place in the Nigerian national team, That's a pretty natural inclination. O'Neill as a former, then even current, national manager will have been understanding and supportive of that. Same could be said about Jack Butland then I presume yet he kept him even when he wasn’t playing well ? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2020 16:31:06 GMT
The player wanted to play at a higher level to keep in his place in the Nigerian national team, That's a pretty natural inclination. O'Neill as a former, then even current, national manager will have been understanding and supportive of that. Same could be said about Jack Butland then I presume yet he kept him even when he wasn’t playing well ? What is your point? |
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Post by Rt Hon Reverend Luvpump on Aug 24, 2020 17:08:03 GMT
Same could be said about Jack Butland then I presume yet he kept him even when he wasn’t playing well ? What is your point? I think we shouldn’t upset the status quo by bringing back a player who doesn’t want to be there or could cause problems in the dressing room which is why I wouldn’t have him anywhere near the first team. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2020 18:44:38 GMT
I think we shouldn’t upset the status quo by bringing back a player who doesn’t want to be there or could cause problems in the dressing room which is why I wouldn’t have him anywhere near the first team. It's not so much a question of "bringing him back" - he's there already - it's more a matter of what are we going to do with him if we don't get a financially rewarding offer for him. Are we then just going to let him temporarily leave, as before, for peanuts, or are we going to get something ourselves for the money we pay. I don't see him as a troublemaker, unlike some others. |
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Post by lordb on Aug 24, 2020 19:21:33 GMT
I think we shouldn’t upset the status quo by bringing back a player who doesn’t want to be there or could cause problems in the dressing room which is why I wouldn’t have him anywhere near the first team. It's not so much a question of "bringing him back" - he's there already - it's more a matter of what are we going to do with him if we don't get a financially rewarding offer for him. Are we then just going to let him temporarily leave, as before, for peanuts, or are we going to get something ourselves for the money we pay. I don't see him as a troublemaker, unlike some others. That's up to Etebo primarily When Ndiaye didn't get a move (he turned Sheffield United down) last summer he showed good attitude under Jones and generally played well however as soon as next window opened he was off. Etebo might do well for a bit if he stays. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2020 6:15:58 GMT
I think we shouldn’t upset the status quo by bringing back a player who doesn’t want to be there or could cause problems in the dressing room which is why I wouldn’t have him anywhere near the first team. In that case we shouldn't ever sign anybody new as they might upset the status quo. Actually I'm not disagreeing completely with that. Far too much energy goes into finding and then integrating new players who aren't that much better and often worse than the ones they replace instead of just looking for continuity, which probably serves us better. |
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Post by franklin on Aug 28, 2020 17:04:49 GMT
Interesting he's been given the number 8 again rather than an nondescript number. A chink of light im clinging to...
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Post by hotpot on Aug 29, 2020 0:38:53 GMT
All balls and no brain. Sell him.
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Post by J-Roar on Aug 29, 2020 6:44:44 GMT
It's not so much a question of "bringing him back" - he's there already - it's more a matter of what are we going to do with him if we don't get a financially rewarding offer for him. Are we then just going to let him temporarily leave, as before, for peanuts, or are we going to get something ourselves for the money we pay. I don't see him as a troublemaker, unlike some others. That's up to Etebo primarily When Ndiaye didn't get a move (he turned Sheffield United down) last summer he showed good attitude under Jones and generally played well however as soon as next window opened he was off. Etebo might do well for a bit if he stays. Didn't know he turned down Sheff Utd. What a lousy decision in hindsight. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 7, 2020 8:46:26 GMT
Dunno if there's anything in this?
Etebo follows this bloke on twitter though....
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 7, 2020 9:13:32 GMT
soccernet.ng/2020/09/reports-etebo-to-leave-stoke-city.htmlAccording to popular Nigerian journalist Kelechi Nkoro, the 24-year-old will end his time with Stoke City to sign for The Lions. It'd be nice if this was a permanent deal. But, no doubt it'll be another loan. He's got the same agent as Badou, and they seem to have some homing device on the Turkish market
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 7, 2020 9:41:46 GMT
Galatasaray internet detectives have noticed his wife has started following Galatasaray!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2020 9:44:43 GMT
I'd rather he train with the u23 team for a season than we let those cunts have him for a year for nowt
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Sept 7, 2020 9:50:31 GMT
I'd rather he train with the u23 team for a season than we let those cunts have him for a year for nowt Would you really want us to pay him £20k upwards per week (or whatever his wage is) to play him in the under 23s? As opposed to Galatasaray paying us a loan fee and part of his wages or a different package if it is a permanent transfer? |
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 7, 2020 9:53:34 GMT
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Post by gingerninja on Sept 7, 2020 9:59:00 GMT
If we could get a fee great, clearly sees his future elsewhere. O'Neill seems to allude to lack of wide options in almost every interview so maybe room for a couple of young wide players arriving as a result.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Sept 7, 2020 9:59:39 GMT
I can see us doing a BOGOF deal with Galatasary.
Our transfer team really is an easy touch.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2020 9:59:42 GMT
I'd rather he train with the u23 team for a season than we let those cunts have him for a year for nowt Would you really want us to pay him £20k upwards per week (or whatever his wage is) to play him in the under 23s? As opposed to Galatasaray paying us a loan fee and part of his wages or a different package if it is a permanent transfer? I'd be ok with it if they pay a decent loan fee, but last time we loaned badou to them their idiot chairman was moaning all season about having to pay a small fee. So I just expect that they won't pay a fee. If the club let's him go there it will be because the player and his agent are forcing our hand again. But,if it turns out they are paying a fair loan fee, no problems here. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2020 10:13:22 GMT
Good news if true. 1 down and 3 to go.....
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Post by J-Roar on Sept 7, 2020 10:31:25 GMT
Would you really want us to pay him £20k upwards per week (or whatever his wage is) to play him in the under 23s? As opposed to Galatasaray paying us a loan fee and part of his wages or a different package if it is a permanent transfer? I'd be ok with it if they pay a decent loan fee, but last time we loaned badou to them their idiot chairman was moaning all season about having to pay a small fee. So I just expect that they won't pay a fee. If the club let's him go there it will be because the player and his agent are forcing our hand again. But,if it turns out they are paying a fair loan fee, no problems here. It's more the wages it frees up. Keeping a player who doesn't want to be here, who we can't sell and who is costing us big money is the economics of the madhouse. |
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Post by biglad180 on Sept 7, 2020 10:37:28 GMT
you dont get any decent deals with turkish clubs they never want to pay anything thats been proved no end of times, rather sell him cheap to a team in another country.
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 7, 2020 10:57:25 GMT
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 7, 2020 11:05:01 GMT
-Oghenekaro Etebo, where Galatasaray has reached an agreement, is coming to Istanbul -Yellow red club, Stoke City also agreed to rent Etebo for free ... -Nigerian player will be hired free of charge...
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Sept 7, 2020 11:11:09 GMT
-Oghenekaro Etebo, where Galatasaray has reached an agreement, is coming to Istanbul -Yellow red club, Stoke City also agreed to rent Etebo for free ... -Nigerian player will be hired free of charge... Hired free of charge? Make him sound like one of Lucky 7s finest on a Saturday night  |
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Post by potterpaul on Sept 7, 2020 11:17:03 GMT
-Oghenekaro Etebo, where Galatasaray has reached an agreement, is coming to Istanbul -Yellow red club, Stoke City also agreed to rent Etebo for free ... -Nigerian player will be hired free of charge... What a way to run a fucking club |
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Post by lordb on Sept 7, 2020 11:17:34 GMT
I'd rather he train with the u23 team for a season than we let those cunts have him for a year for nowt What about a loan fee and part/all his wages paid by them? Or no loan fee😞 If that's true (& the Turkish media is the most unreliable going) |
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 7, 2020 11:25:23 GMT
Would you really want us to pay him £20k upwards per week (or whatever his wage is) to play him in the under 23s? As opposed to Galatasaray paying us a loan fee and part of his wages or a different package if it is a permanent transfer? I'd be ok with it if they pay a decent loan fee, but last time we loaned badou to them their idiot chairman was moaning all season about having to pay a small fee. So I just expect that they won't pay a fee. If the club let's him go there it will be because the player and his agent are forcing our hand again. But,if it turns out they are paying a fair loan fee, no problems here. No fee to be paid  another fantastic piece of negotiation by Teflon Tony he couldn't run a piss up in a brewery. |
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another fantastic piece of negotiation by Teflon Tony he couldn't run a piss up in a brewery.
