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Post by stokeykez on Aug 1, 2020 19:21:28 GMT
Steve Bruce was a big fan of etebo. Now that Newcastle are pissing in a tin pot for transfers and not a gold pot I would see if we could recoup 5mill. I'd even take the matt richie part ex like we wanted 12 month ago.
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Post by slicko on Aug 1, 2020 19:50:01 GMT
Abandon any thoughts of Etebo featuring in the first team. His apparent lack of character, inability to mix with the players here at the time, lack of vertebrae and right foot would make him damn near useless under our current manager.
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Post by Championship Potter on Aug 1, 2020 22:28:11 GMT
Do we know how long he has left on his contract? A standout season in the Championship would give him the perfect platform to secure a lucrative Prem contract on a bosman. If it’s two years, I’d probably even consider adding a low release clause for a Prem team to take him after next season. Surely a good way of getting him playing for a season. That's what I am getting at. It's believed from transfermarkt that his contract runs another two years. On the other hand he will be 30 when the new season starts, so it's getting where it's his last chance saloon, if he wants to play at a top club. Yeah completely agree. Risk is he’s got is that if he runs down his contract he’ll struggle to get a decent deal anywhere when he’s 32. He’s better playing out of his skin for a season at Championship level and trying to get us to release him a year early so he can then sign a 3 year deal on Prem money. Potentially works well for both parties. |
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Post by hyaduck on Aug 1, 2020 22:56:22 GMT
I struggle to understand why so many people still seem to defend these pair of clowns.Both Etebo & N’diaye have no desire to be around the club or other players and frankly from what I’ve seen, have either have them really set the light on fire...We have better players at the club who actually want to play for the club. If we can get another loan fee or if anyone daft enough out there to give us ten bob, then F##k the pair of em right off.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2020 4:19:23 GMT
I struggle to understand why so many people still seem to defend these pair of clowns.Both Etebo & N’diaye have no desire to be around the club or other players and frankly from what I’ve seen, have either have them really set the light on fire...We have better players at the club who actually want to play for the club. If we can get another loan fee or if anyone daft enough out there to give us ten bob, then F##k the pair of em right off. Who are these better players who are dying to play for us? Don't telll me Clucas, mCclean, Allen, and any other earcuppers are suddenly willing to give blood for us. They're not. I certainly don't believe Etebo or N'diaye are holding their breath for the moment when they can finally be mighty Potters again. But they happen to be employees of ours and we pay them handsomely, for NOTHING. We c an't sell them and we can't loan them out with a mandatory purchase. So wouldn't it be better if they actually did some work for the money they're paid. Bad things have been said in the recent past, both by our genius manager and by the players' agent/themselves. Sometimes you just have to draw a line in the sand and say what happened then doesn't matter now. Play for us in 20-21 and you'll be free/relatively free in 21-22, Badou. And a similar arrangement with Etebo, although his contractual obligations are longer. Or watch them do nothing for us for 2-3 more years at our expense, with huge frustration throughout the time for oatcake supporters. for the continued expense. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2020 6:31:53 GMT
I struggle to understand why so many people still seem to defend these pair of clowns.Both Etebo & N’diaye have no desire to be around the club or other players and frankly from what I’ve seen, have either have them really set the light on fire...We have better players at the club who actually want to play for the club. If we can get another loan fee or if anyone daft enough out there to give us ten bob, then F##k the pair of em right off. Who are these better players who are dying to play for us? Don't telll me Clucas, mCclean, Allen, and any other earcuppers are suddenly willing to give blood for us. They're not. I certainly don't believe Etebo or N'diaye are holding their breath for the moment when they can finally be mighty Potters again. But they happen to be employees of ours and we pay them handsomely, for NOTHING. We c an't sell them and we can't loan them out with a mandatory purchase. So wouldn't it be better if they actually did some work for the money they're paid. Bad things have been said in the recent past, both by our genius manager and by the players' agent/themselves. Sometimes you just have to draw a line in the sand and say what happened then doesn't matter now. Play for us in 20-21 and you'll be free/relatively free in 21-22, Badou. And a similar arrangement with Etebo, although his contractual obligations are longer. Or watch them do nothing for us for 2-3 more years at our expense, with huge frustration throughout the time for oatcake supporters. for the continued expense. Players that don’t want to be at a club hanging around can cause dressing room rifts and make the managers job a lot harder. If we have to send them out on loan with 50/60% of their wages being covered from a FFP point of view it’s better than nothing. Unless they make it perfectly clear they want to be part of MON’s squad they need shipping out immediately....... |
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Post by mamasgloves on Aug 2, 2020 7:11:40 GMT
We want to improve the squad and starting XI and he does that. To say "he's not actually that good" while we're starting games with Thompson and Cousins is a bit fucking daft It’s daft? Remind me of our league position when Etebo was starting? Oh, that’s right- rock bottom. We should have carried on with him- now that would have been “fucking daft”. And that was all down to him, was it? 😁 Pretty sure he was our best player in his one and only full season with us and was recognised as such in the end of season awards. But don't let facts get in the way. |
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Post by mamasgloves on Aug 2, 2020 7:19:34 GMT
I struggle to understand why so many people still seem to defend these pair of clowns.Both Etebo & N’diaye have no desire to be around the club or other players and frankly from what I’ve seen, have either have them really set the light on fire...We have better players at the club who actually want to play for the club. If we can get another loan fee or if anyone daft enough out there to give us ten bob, then F##k the pair of em right off. If you fucked off every player who wanted to leave we'd have very few left. Wake up, that's football |
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Post by wilcopotter on Aug 2, 2020 9:44:36 GMT
I struggle to understand why so many people still seem to defend these pair of clowns.Both Etebo & N’diaye have no desire to be around the club or other players and frankly from what I’ve seen, have either have them really set the light on fire...We have better players at the club who actually want to play for the club. If we can get another loan fee or if anyone daft enough out there to give us ten bob, then F##k the pair of em right off. Who are these better players who are dying to play for us? Don't telll me Clucas, mCclean, Allen, and any other earcuppers are suddenly willing to give blood for us. They're not. I certainly don't believe Etebo or N'diaye are holding their breath for the moment when they can finally be mighty Potters again. But they happen to be employees of ours and we pay them handsomely, for NOTHING. We c an't sell them and we can't loan them out with a mandatory purchase. So wouldn't it be better if they actually did some work for the money they're paid. Bad things have been said in the recent past, both by our genius manager and by the players' agent/themselves. Sometimes you just have to draw a line in the sand and say what happened then doesn't matter now. Play for us in 20-21 and you'll be free/relatively free in 21-22, Badou. And a similar arrangement with Etebo, although his contractual obligations are longer. Or watch them do nothing for us for 2-3 more years at our expense, with huge frustration throughout the time for oatcake supporters. for the continued expense. My guess is they would suddenly love Stoke again if we got promoted. Otherwise, no interest in playing the likes of Wycombe or Rotherham. |
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Post by thehoof on Aug 2, 2020 9:52:26 GMT
It’s daft? Remind me of our league position when Etebo was starting? Oh, that’s right- rock bottom. We should have carried on with him- now that would have been “fucking daft”. And that was all down to him, was it? 😁 Pretty sure he was our best player in his one and only full season with us and was recognised as such in the end of season awards. But don't let facts get in the way. Facts- he influenced no games; he scored 1 goal, he had 3 assists- real influential player that NOBODY wants. Of course, you can’t see what’s obvious. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2020 9:54:19 GMT
Who are these better players who are dying to play for us? Don't telll me Clucas, mCclean, Allen, and any other earcuppers are suddenly willing to give blood for us. They're not. I certainly don't believe Etebo or N'diaye are holding their breath for the moment when they can finally be mighty Potters again. But they happen to be employees of ours and we pay them handsomely, for NOTHING. We c an't sell them and we can't loan them out with a mandatory purchase. So wouldn't it be better if they actually did some work for the money they're paid. Bad things have been said in the recent past, both by our genius manager and by the players' agent/themselves. Sometimes you just have to draw a line in the sand and say what happened then doesn't matter now. Play for us in 20-21 and you'll be free/relatively free in 21-22, Badou. And a similar arrangement with Etebo, although his contractual obligations are longer. Or watch them do nothing for us for 2-3 more years at our expense, with huge frustration throughout the time for oatcake supporters. for the continued expense. Players that don’t want to be at a club hanging around can cause dressing room rifts and make the managers job a lot harder. If we have to send them out on loan with 50/60% of their wages being covered from a FFP point of view it’s better than nothing. Unless they make it perfectly clear they want to be part of MON’s squad they need shipping out immediately....... That's why there has to be intelligent conversations so 1) they can be coaxed around to see that playing for Stoke can actually be beneficial for their further careers 2) they learn a little about the rules and obligations when you are under contract. 3) a line is drawn on the past and everyone looks to the future. I think there's a difference between these two lads and the Imbulas of the recent past. Berahino was a dopehead, Imbula hated being in Stoke, Wimmer wasn't serious about being a pro footballer. Etebo and N'diaye are not actually adverse to Stoke, they just fear playing in the Championship will ruin their chances of staying in the national team. They played decently well in a team, which at the time, had a lot of internal problems and poor managers. |
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Post by lagwafis on Aug 2, 2020 10:36:02 GMT
The Championship is a perfect springboard to better things if you're willing to knuckle down and showcase your talents consistently (not just glimpses) for 12/18 months.
Off the top of my head James Maddison, Ryan Sessegnon, Neal Maupay, Jarrod Bowen, Adama Traore, Matej Vydra and more have all moved on to the Premier League on the back of impressive showings at this level. Ollie Watkins, Said Benrahma, Bryan Mbeumo could all go the same way if Brentford don't go up this season.
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Post by shrewspotter on Aug 2, 2020 10:41:16 GMT
I think Etebo thinks he is a better player than he actually is
My preferred option would be that he was sold and we re couped some of the money we paid for him, failing that another loan, however I just don’t see a future here for him. He clearly doesn’t want to play for us and in my opinion it showed when he did play. What a mess
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Post by mamasgloves on Aug 2, 2020 10:45:08 GMT
And that was all down to him, was it? 😁 Pretty sure he was our best player in his one and only full season with us and was recognised as such in the end of season awards. But don't let facts get in the way. Facts- he influenced no games; he scored 1 goal, he had 3 assists- real influential player that NOBODY wants. Of course, you can’t see what’s obvious. I stopped at your "fact" that he influenced no games as that's clearly bollocks, but I'm guessing you know that really. |
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Post by thehoof on Aug 2, 2020 12:36:24 GMT
Facts- he influenced no games; he scored 1 goal, he had 3 assists- real influential player that NOBODY wants. Of course, you can’t see what’s obvious. I stopped at your "fact" that he influenced no games as that's clearly bollocks, but I'm guessing you know that really. No , I really don’t. Blackburn winning goal I will give you. After that I’m genuinely struggling to think of any game where he influenced a positive result. Even his best game for Stoke ( Sheffield We’d home) ended up a nil- nil draw. One of our best performances of his full season was against Derby- you know, when he got himself sent off after 20 odd minutes. I’m not saying he’s a bad player, but I don’t think he’s anywhere near being the game changer that some people think he is. 16th with him playing a full season, rock bottom when he played this year- what did he actually add to that? Did he save us from relegation in18/19? What did he create- or were we missing chance after chance because the forwards were crap. Seriously, have we missed him? |
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Aug 2, 2020 12:57:16 GMT
If he comes back in the squad I'm happy enough to keep him. He is still one of the more talented players contracted to the club.
Some of the talk about the current squad working hard is a little ott. Remember this was the same team who Wigan destroyed merely weeks ago. I like many of them but it's hardly controversial to have Etebo in the squad.
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Post by mamasgloves on Aug 2, 2020 14:21:48 GMT
I stopped at your "fact" that he influenced no games as that's clearly bollocks, but I'm guessing you know that really. No , I really don’t. Blackburn winning goal I will give you. After that I’m genuinely struggling to think of any game where he influenced a positive result. Even his best game for Stoke ( Sheffield We’d home) ended up a nil- nil draw. One of our best performances of his full season was against Derby- you know, when he got himself sent off after 20 odd minutes. I’m not saying he’s a bad player, but I don’t think he’s anywhere near being the game changer that some people think he is. 16th with him playing a full season, rock bottom when he played this year- what did he actually add to that? Did he save us from relegation in18/19? What did he create- or were we missing chance after chance because the forwards were crap. Seriously, have we missed him? You mention Weds, how many opposition managers waxed lyrical about any other of our players that season? As for whether we've missed him, you could argue that he might have strengthened an area consistently exposed that ended with Cousins/Thompson playing there so I'm going to go with yes, we have missed him. Or do you genuinely think he'd have done worse than those two in the midfield two? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2020 14:37:50 GMT
I stopped at your "fact" that he influenced no games as that's clearly bollocks, but I'm guessing you know that really. No , I really don’t. Blackburn winning goal I will give you. After that I’m genuinely struggling to think of any game where he influenced a positive result. Even his best game for Stoke ( Sheffield We’d home) ended up a nil- nil draw. One of our best performances of his full season was against Derby- you know, when he got himself sent off after 20 odd minutes. I’m not saying he’s a bad player, but I don’t think he’s anywhere near being the game changer that some people think he is. 16th with him playing a full season, rock bottom when he played this year- what did he actually add to that? Did he save us from relegation in18/19? What did he create- or were we missing chance after chance because the forwards were crap. Seriously, have we missed him? Would you hold Etebo and Etebo alone personally responsible for our "rock bottom" position, or might it just be that we had a whole squad of players who were either bewildered by the then manager's tactics and selections or were downright playing against him to get him sacked (which neither Etebo nor N'diaye were)? |
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Post by liathroid on Aug 10, 2020 16:15:04 GMT
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Post by nigerianstokie on Aug 10, 2020 16:22:33 GMT
Have to keep him, he’d be our best midfielder by a distance and one of the best in the league. |
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Aug 10, 2020 16:39:38 GMT
Jon Obi Mikel vs. Etebo?
Come on MON this isnt so hard to fathom.
We arent just going to loan out 7 unwanted players this season its patently clear. We need to make use of this bloated squad and not keeping adding more journeymen onto the pile.
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Post by RAF on Aug 10, 2020 16:44:49 GMT
Abandon any thoughts of Etebo featuring in the first team. His apparent lack of character, inability to mix with the players here at the time, lack of vertebrae and right foot would make him damn near useless under our current manager. Sounds like at least two players who have been regulars under MON. H |
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Post by ab61 on Aug 10, 2020 16:49:36 GMT
I struggle to understand why so many people still seem to defend these pair of clowns.Both Etebo & N’diaye have no desire to be around the club or other players and frankly from what I’ve seen, have either have them really set the light on fire...We have better players at the club who actually want to play for the club. If we can get another loan fee or if anyone daft enough out there to give us ten bob, then F##k the pair of em right off. If you fucked off every player who wanted to leave we'd have very few left. Wake up, that's football Not really. Weren’t these 2 banging on O’Neills door saying they wanted off. Don’t agree we have better. But agree with the F##k the pair of em right off. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2020 16:54:18 GMT
Doesn't want to be here does he? So it's a big fat 'fuck off' from me.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Aug 10, 2020 16:56:00 GMT
He won’t be back for long before another Europa playing side want to loan him.
Another we shouldn’t even think about playing. I want players that want to play for Stoke. It’s not a big ask is it?
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Aug 10, 2020 16:56:46 GMT
Even the likes of Barca are not spending big money to bring Neymar back.
Theres gonna be no big transfers and maybe a few cheap-ass loans.
Etebo will realize his only chance at football this season is at Stoke and will give his all accordingly.
He is one season away from the Premier League.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2020 19:03:05 GMT
Have to keep him, he’d be our best midfielder by a distance and one of the best in the league. Apart from the fact that he doesn't score goals, doesn't get assists and doesn't stand out as a defensive midfielder, you are right! |
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Post by liathroid on Aug 10, 2020 19:07:02 GMT
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Post by nigerianstokie on Aug 10, 2020 19:08:34 GMT
Have to keep him, he’d be our best midfielder by a distance and one of the best in the league. Apart from the fact that he doesn't score goals, doesn't get assists and doesn't stand out as a defensive midfielder, you are right! He shits over Allen from a great height, and apart from his goals, Clucas too. A midfield 3 of Powell, Etebo and a proper holding midfielder looks very exciting. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 10, 2020 19:11:48 GMT
Is he still stranded in Nigeria, do we know?
Wonder if there's any prospect of that changing?
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