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Post by kjpt140v on Jan 26, 2020 18:59:28 GMT
So what are your thoughts now? Who cares!! Nobody about you I'm sure.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jan 26, 2020 19:04:17 GMT
Nobody about you I'm sure. Ah shucks. You obviously do precious, taking the time to craft that considered response, good to know you were thinking of me Kev 🤣
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Post by mattador78 on Jan 26, 2020 19:24:30 GMT
Beg to differ he’s taking us backwards which seemed unthinkable , he’s ignoring the best players , i personally find not a single cell of optimism in his press conferences , selection , tactics or game management right now I’d say hell b3 lucky to get more than 36 points So what are your thoughts now? 1 more win and two draws then 14 defeats should be all she wrote for the season 😉
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Post by kjpt140v on Jan 26, 2020 19:35:29 GMT
Nobody about you I'm sure. Ah shucks. You obviously do precious, taking the time to craft that considered response, good to know you were thinking of me Kev 🤣 No I just think you're a nasty little shit and there is obviously somebody else who agrees.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2020 19:51:53 GMT
Weird this. You are allowed to think someone is doing badly when they are doing badly and then think they're good when they're doing well.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jan 26, 2020 20:07:16 GMT
Ah shucks. You obviously do precious, taking the time to craft that considered response, good to know you were thinking of me Kev 🤣 No I just think you're a nasty little shit and there is obviously somebody else who agrees. Ok Kev, peace out 😘
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2020 20:12:53 GMT
Weird this. You are allowed to think someone is doing badly when they are doing badly and then think they're good when they're doing well. Except Benji said O'Neill was shit and the wrong choice before he'd even sat in the manager's chair,as did a few others. Saying he's doing better than expected is not quite the same as saying I'm an idiot and I was wrong..... we're still waiting for Benji and March to do that but I'm guessing they're hoping it all turns to shit so they can say they were right after all
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jan 26, 2020 20:29:01 GMT
Weird this. You are allowed to think someone is doing badly when they are doing badly and then think they're good when they're doing well. Except Benji said O'Neill was shit and the wrong choice before he'd even sat in the manager's chair,as did a few others. Saying he's doing better than expected is not quite the same as saying I'm an idiot and I was wrong..... we're still waiting for Benji and March to do that but I'm guessing they're hoping it all turns to shit so they can say they were right after all [b I have been saying since early January or so he’s doing a good job and miles better than I expected or forecast that clearly says o was wrong and I certainly don’t want it to turn to shit .
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Post by kjpt140v on Jan 26, 2020 20:33:07 GMT
No I just think you're a nasty little shit and there is obviously somebody else who agrees. Ok Kev, peace out 😘 You are a stalker.
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Post by rawli on Jan 26, 2020 21:36:16 GMT
Weird this. You are allowed to think someone is doing badly when they are doing badly and then think they're good when they're doing well. He wasn't doing badly when it was said. And it was early days. Some embarrassing hysteria on here reading back.
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Post by adi on Jan 26, 2020 22:10:45 GMT
Weird this. You are allowed to think someone is doing badly when they are doing badly and then think they're good when they're doing well. Just a few jumping the gun now having a slab of humble pie.
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Post by mano00001 on Jul 15, 2020 20:38:58 GMT
Beg to differ he’s taking us backwards which seemed unthinkable , he’s ignoring the best players , i personally find not a single cell of optimism in his press conferences , selection , tactics or game management right now I’d say hell b3 lucky to get more than 36 points He did quite well so
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 15, 2020 21:12:18 GMT
So what are your thoughts now? 1 more win and two draws then 14 defeats should be all she wrote for the season 😉 Not sure I go your additional post m but I’ve said since he’s done a lot better than I said , he would and when he keeps us up it’s a brilliant achievement . i remain worried about his transfer experience , I’m old enough to remember the great escape engineered by Bill asprey and the carnage that followed , but he’s earned the opportunity to be given real and tangible support from here in the market that’s for sure .
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Post by lordb on Jul 15, 2020 21:15:36 GMT
1 more win and two draws then 14 defeats should be all she wrote for the season 😉 Not sure I go your additional post m but I’ve said since he’s done a lot better than I said , he would and when he keeps us up it’s a brilliant achievement . i remain worried about his transfer experience , I’m old enough to remember the great escape engineered by Bill asprey and the carnage that followed , but he’s earned the opportunity to be given real and tangible support from here in the market that’s for sure . Within minutes,whilst still on the pitch,Asprey went up to Maguire and said "I scored those goals today, not you" That's spectacular paranoid piss poor man management Does O'Neill really strike as a similar character to Asprey?
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Post by AlliG on Jul 15, 2020 21:15:44 GMT
1 more win and two draws then 14 defeats should be all she wrote for the season 😉 Not sure I go your additional post m but I’ve said since he’s done a lot better than I said , he would and when he keeps us up it’s a brilliant achievement . i remain worried about his transfer experience , I’m old enough to remember the great escape engineered by Bill asprey and the carnage that followed , but he’s earned the opportunity to be given real and tangible support from here in the market that’s for sure . But you appear to have forgotten that the carnage was caused by giving 25% of the better players in the team that Asprey used to keep us up free transfers and then asking him to fill the gaps with kids.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 15, 2020 21:23:04 GMT
Not sure I go your additional post m but I’ve said since he’s done a lot better than I said , he would and when he keeps us up it’s a brilliant achievement . i remain worried about his transfer experience , I’m old enough to remember the great escape engineered by Bill asprey and the carnage that followed , but he’s earned the opportunity to be given real and tangible support from here in the market that’s for sure . Within minutes,whilst still on the pitch,Asprey went up to Maguire and said "I scored those goals today, not you" That's spectacular paranoid piss poor man management Does O'Neill really strike as a similar character to Asprey? I’d never heard that but no is the answer , but it’s just a case of how things can go sour again ( some atmosphere that day )
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Post by lordb on Jul 15, 2020 21:25:38 GMT
Within minutes,whilst still on the pitch,Asprey went up to Maguire and said "I scored those goals today, not you" That's spectacular paranoid piss poor man management Does O'Neill really strike as a similar character to Asprey? I’d never heard that but no is the answer , but it’s just a case of how things can go sour again ( some atmosphere that day ) Had to wait ages , 10+ minutes easy, before we found at Birmingham score. Stoke summer 1984 was the classic example of what not do. Stoke under Pulis summer after we win last day to stay up is a better example to look to.
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Post by smallthorner on Jul 15, 2020 21:27:01 GMT
Michael has done a very good job in keeping us up.
But I dont think he's the right manager for us long term
He has no experience and no Club coaching pedigree...
Mid table next season.
Maybe that is ok.
But when you look at Brentford and Leeds we are light years away.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 15, 2020 21:31:06 GMT
I’d never heard that but no is the answer , but it’s just a case of how things can go sour again ( some atmosphere that day ) Had to wait ages , 10+ minutes easy, before we found at Birmingham score. Stoke summer 1984 was the classic example of what not do. Stoke under Pulis summer after we win last day to stay up is a better example to look to. I also seem to remember Asprey doing forward rolls on the pitch after the results came through .
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Post by BristolMick on Jul 15, 2020 21:36:55 GMT
Michael has done a very good job in keeping us up. But I dont think he's the right manager for us long term He has no experience and no Club coaching pedigree... Mid table next season. Maybe that is ok. But when you look at Brentford and Leeds we are light years away. Oh right. So you’d be for saying thanks for saving us from certain oblivion but it ain’t good enough so here’s your P45 and then trusting Scholes and JC to bring in someone better for their 4th manager in 2 years would you? BM
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Post by lancashirelad on Jul 15, 2020 21:37:29 GMT
Michael has done a very good job in keeping us up. But I dont think he's the right manager for us long term He has no experience and no Club coaching pedigree... Mid table next season. Maybe that is ok. But when you look at Brentford and Leeds we are light years away.[/quote We need a manager to stabilise Stoke then build in a forward direction and O'Neill will start the process. We have taken giant strides backwards for 4 years and now baby steps forward as no matter who is manager they would would never take us giant steps forward with the squad of players we have and being able turn the squad around it will be a few years.
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Post by lancashirelad on Jul 15, 2020 21:39:07 GMT
Michael has done a very good job in keeping us up. But I dont think he's the right manager for us long term He has no experience and no Club coaching pedigree... Mid table next season. Maybe that is ok. But when you look at Brentford and Leeds we are light years away. We need a manager to stabilise Stoke then build in a forward direction and O'Neill will start the process. We have taken giant strides backwards for 4 years and now baby steps forward as no matter who is manager they would would never take us giant steps forward with the squad of players we have and being able turn the squad around it will be a few years.
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Post by thisisouryear on Jul 15, 2020 21:47:34 GMT
Michael has done a very good job in keeping us up. But I dont think he's the right manager for us long term He has no experience and no Club coaching pedigree... Mid table next season. Maybe that is ok. But when you look at Brentford and Leeds we are light years away. I have been questioning him ever since he came here but he just keeps proving me wrong. I find it a bit mental that he is doing so well, he seems to be a very intelligent manager who knows how to get results. The transfer window will be telling, I don't think we will look pretty next season but we will get results and possibly challenging for promotion. He feels like a safe manager, I have really warmed to him because he seems what we need.
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Post by smallthorner on Jul 15, 2020 21:55:40 GMT
Michael has done a very good job in keeping us up. But I dont think he's the right manager for us long term He has no experience and no Club coaching pedigree... Mid table next season. Maybe that is ok. But when you look at Brentford and Leeds we are light years away. Oh right. So you’d be for saying thanks for saving us from certain oblivion but it ain’t good enough so here’s your P45 and then trusting Scholes and JC to bring in someone better for their 4th manager in 2 years would you? BM He isn't good enough to take us up. Trusting Scholes and JC to appoint a progressive new manager is a different issue altogether. Clubs with ambition in this day and age wouldn't bat an eyelid at the decision to sack him at season end. If you want stability and two seasons in the Chanpionship then Michael's your man. If you want a genuine push for the promised land then you need a progressive foreign coach. That's my opinion. Cheers
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Post by smallthorner on Jul 15, 2020 22:05:01 GMT
Michael has done a very good job in keeping us up. But I dont think he's the right manager for us long term He has no experience and no Club coaching pedigree... Mid table next season. Maybe that is ok. But when you look at Brentford and Leeds we are light years away. I have been questioning him ever since he came here but he just keeps proving me wrong. I find it a bit mental that he is doing so well, he seems to be a very intelligent manager who knows how to get results. The transfer window will be telling, I don't think we will look pretty next season but we will get results and possibly challenging for promotion. He feels like a safe manager, I have really warmed to him because he seems what we need. Transfer windows for the last three years have been "telling" The squad has been assembled by the last three managers. Michael may be the best fit at the moment and a steady hand. But I don't think he has got the coaching nous to get us promoted. Purely my opinion of course.
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Post by mickstupp on Jul 15, 2020 22:05:01 GMT
Beg to differ he’s taking us backwards which seemed unthinkable , he’s ignoring the best players , i personally find not a single cell of optimism in his press conferences , selection , tactics or game management right now I’d say hell b3 lucky to get more than 36 points Nostradamus strikes again 😂😂
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Post by lancashirelad on Jul 15, 2020 22:08:49 GMT
Oh right. So you’d be for saying thanks for saving us from certain oblivion but it ain’t good enough so here’s your P45 and then trusting Scholes and JC to bring in someone better for their 4th manager in 2 years would you? BM He isn't good enough to take us up. Trusting Scholes and JC to appoint a progressive new manager is a different issue altogether. Clubs with ambition in this day and age wouldn't bat an eyelid at the decision to sack him at season end. If you want stability and two seasons in the Chanpionship then Michael's your man. If you want a genuine push for the promised land then you need a progressive foreign coach. That's my opinion. Cheers Each to their own. A coach not knowing the league (O'Neill not a seasoned championship manager but knows the british game) does not always mean success whether or an ambitious manager from abroad or british (mad nath) types. At this moment in time we need stabilise rather than another gamble on black or red even if it means a boring steps forward, we have gambled outside the box too much in recent years.
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Post by liathroid on Jul 15, 2020 22:12:46 GMT
Michael has done a very good job in keeping us up. But I dont think he's the right manager for us long term He has no experience and no Club coaching pedigree... Mid table next season. Maybe that is ok. But when you look at Brentford and Leeds we are light years away. as a manager do you know what he has done
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 15, 2020 22:15:28 GMT
Beg to differ he’s taking us backwards which seemed unthinkable , he’s ignoring the best players , i personally find not a single cell of optimism in his press conferences , selection , tactics or game management right now I’d say hell b3 lucky to get more than 36 points Nostradamus strikes again 😂😂 Funny when I said we are in a tailspin 4 years ago you said something Similar 😏
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Post by PotteringThrough on Jul 15, 2020 22:18:16 GMT
Michael has done a very good job in keeping us up. But I dont think he's the right manager for us long term He has no experience and no Club coaching pedigree... Mid table next season. Maybe that is ok. But when you look at Brentford and Leeds we are light years away. I'm sorry but I think he's the right man for the job. I think he's a players manager, and finds something that others couldn't. I don't know, and maybe someone else does, but I suspect he leans quite heavily on psychology and working with the players psyche. I don't think you necessarily need club coaching experience to achieve something - if you get the right group who do what you need you can go places. Our issue lies with the players we bring in and if they buy into it. The manager needs to be getting the people he wants.
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