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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2019 22:51:16 GMT
I mean, it is quite easy to look through this thread, the Indi thread, the MON thread about his appointment thread, and see plenty of knives drawn. It’s also often the case in all of the team selection threads, with ONeill out ringing through, which is just pathetic. So it's actually any criticism of the manager that you've got issue with, rather than him not getting credit when we win (which he largely does)? ..... and you base that on?
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Post by LankyPotter on Dec 15, 2019 22:59:58 GMT
Beg to differ he’s taking us backwards which seemed unthinkable , he’s ignoring the best players , i personally find not a single cell of optimism in his press conferences , selection , tactics or game management right now I’d say hell b3 lucky to get more than 36 points Still a virgin.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 15, 2019 23:01:06 GMT
So it's actually any criticism of the manager that you've got issue with, rather than him not getting credit when we win (which he largely does)? ..... and you base that on? Yeah good one.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Dec 15, 2019 23:02:39 GMT
Beg to differ he’s taking us backwards which seemed unthinkable , he’s ignoring the best players , i personally find not a single cell of optimism in his press conferences , selection , tactics or game management right now I’d say hell b3 lucky to get more than 36 points Still a virgin. m Boxing Day Gordon banks no pants and I’ll show you
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Dec 16, 2019 20:26:22 GMT
BBC joining in tonight in their round up . First championship game for 7 years with no shots on target
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2019 20:30:21 GMT
This thread was actually "made" for Benj.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 16, 2019 22:47:50 GMT
Who is saying that? Name names? I don't think it's a matter of lashing out, the manager has already done some questionable things as well as some good ones and on a messageboard both sides will be talked about. I mean, it is quite easy to look through this thread, the Indi thread, the MON thread about his appointment thread, and see plenty of knives drawn. It’s also often the case in all of the team selection threads, with ONeill out ringing through, which is just pathetic. Knives? Just pointing out questionable managerial decisions. That’s what fans do! No knives just pointing out what he’s doing wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2019 8:20:19 GMT
You'll pretty much always get that though won't you? He'd get, rightly, praise from the overwhelming majority. I mean, he doesn’t get praise from the overwhelming majority on here. Stoke fans are used to losing now and just happy to lash out, even when we win, a good many still are saying it’s a fluke, a gift, Jones could have done it, and all the rest of the bullshit. How do you define discussion forum? I mean, if you think of it as some sort of fan group, then the Oatcake is the wrong place for you...
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Post by Ron on Dec 19, 2019 7:28:57 GMT
Ever likely everyone is so negative. An awful squad has been assembled with no pace and not a man who can finish amongst it. Total apathy in the stands and a toxic atmosphere as a result of the disconnect between the board/ fans players/ fans board/players. It’s hard to get behind! A ceo who gets a pay rise for failure, whilst the players win bonus- the basic incentive for any greedy twat of a modern day footballer- gets removed. You couldn’t make it up.
The moaning about negative tactics now.... at least MON is trying to sure up a leaky defence! That said the lack of game time given to arguably the best “footballer” at the club, Powell, seeing as he now appears fit, is baffling , especially given the ineptitude and total lack of creativity of those who have had the shirt.
The ear cupping debacle, and now public criticism of the fans by players doesn’t help. They deserve every single bit of stick they get after throwing 2 managers under the bus!
As I say, it’s ever likely folk feel negative about it.
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Post by Gods on Dec 19, 2019 8:17:50 GMT
The idea that Powell is the "best footballer at the club" keeps getting trotted out like a truism.
Perhaps he is but has anyone seen him do anything, I mean anything at all, even have a kick on his 9 outings of various lengths for us thus far?
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Post by wuzza on Dec 19, 2019 8:36:10 GMT
The idea that Powell is the "best footballer at the club" keeps getting trotted out like a truism. Perhaps he is but has anyone seen him do anything, I mean anything at all, even have a kick on his 9 outings of various lengths for us thus far? Totally correct - Powell’s quality is , as far as SCFC is concerned so far, a figment of the imagination . It’s another straw people are clinging to.
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Post by Gods on Dec 19, 2019 8:42:44 GMT
The idea that Powell is the "best footballer at the club" keeps getting trotted out like a truism. Perhaps he is but has anyone seen him do anything, I mean anything at all, even have a kick on his 9 outings of various lengths for us thus far? Totally correct - Powell’s quality is , as far as SCFC is concerned so far, a figment of the imagination . It’s another straw people are clinging to. I've been wrestling with why this is. I think it's twofold: 1. He apparently played well against us for Wigan once. 2. He's somehow either been played out of position or not properly supported. Because he sure as shit can't be as invisible on the pitch as he has appeared to be.
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Post by SCFC92 on Dec 19, 2019 9:00:41 GMT
The idea that Powell is the "best footballer at the club" keeps getting trotted out like a truism. Perhaps he is but has anyone seen him do anything, I mean anything at all, even have a kick on his 9 outings of various lengths for us thus far? Bang on mate, I'm sick of players clinging on to past glory, or one game in a million. You're only as good as your last game. Which unfortunately this season means most of our team are wank! But that explains the league position.
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Post by Glory Hunter on Dec 19, 2019 20:20:26 GMT
Beg to differ he’s taking us backwards which seemed unthinkable , he’s ignoring the best players , i personally find not a single cell of optimism in his press conferences , selection , tactics or game management right now I’d say hell b3 lucky to get more than 36 points Here we go. Stats don’t support this rubbish (thankfully)
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Post by mano00001 on Jan 12, 2020 21:10:25 GMT
He has a much better points per game ratio and the "better players" were prominent in the massively underperforming sides prior to his arrival. I personally would be picking Etebo, Badou and Gregory but he isn't and we are getting more points than we were so what do I know. Jones last 4 games got 6 points from Swansea , Fulham , Millwall and Sheffield Wednesday let’s see how O’Neil does for the 4 games starting Boxing Day , personally I think he’ll get less than three , he’s taking us backwards . 4 Games after boxing day 7pts and your still not happy I guess?
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jan 12, 2020 23:07:13 GMT
Jones last 4 games got 6 points from Swansea , Fulham , Millwall and Sheffield Wednesday let’s see how O’Neil does for the 4 games starting Boxing Day , personally I think he’ll get less than three , he’s taking us backwards . 4 Games after boxing day 7pts and your still not happy I guess? I’d say he’s done better than expected and indeed done well .
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Jan 12, 2020 23:13:56 GMT
4 Games after boxing day 7pts and your still not happy I guess? I’d say he’s done better than expected and indeed done well . I'd say that the football is dire. The fans who turn up, week in, week out deserve a medal and a refund. The football on Saturday was nothing short of shit.
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Post by rawli on Jan 12, 2020 23:29:44 GMT
I’d say he’s done better than expected and indeed done well . I'd say that the football is dire. The fans who turn up, week in, week out deserve a medal and a refund. The football on Saturday was nothing short of shit. Wasnt dire v Wedneday or Huddersfield. Wouldn't mind a medal though. How do I apply?
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Post by BuzzB on Jan 12, 2020 23:53:24 GMT
I’d say he’s done better than expected and indeed done well . I'd say that the football is dire. The fans who turn up, week in, week out deserve a medal and a refund. The football on Saturday was nothing short of shit. Indeed it was, can not argue with this. What is frustrating is having a player like Powell, Allen and Ince at a push who can play, can pass and can read a game, do their best but have the likes of Lindsay Baath Smith Ward Cousins Woods Clucas (sometimes) who are panic merchants, can't pass, can't read a game. Hoof hoof hoof!! All this passing backwards from throws in the oppositions half, rushed free kicks that end up with Butland instead of in the mixer. Its a hard watch at the moment, especially at home for some reason we seem to freeze. MON has made a difference and we have to remember he is still working with the plebs signings, we as fans have to suck the mop until May and hope we survive.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jan 12, 2020 23:53:49 GMT
Bottom 4 - Full marks, done exactly what he needed to and then some. Played well and scored goals, got us out of the relegation zone. Put a smile on our faces and ended some pretty horrible scoring records.
None Bottom 4- Pretty stale football, lacking creativity and pace. Seems hesitant to make changes and really struggling to break teams down. Not getting blown away but losing by the odd goal. Sheff Wed is the exception. But just 1 win in 8 is a poor return with harsh fixtures coming.
I think that’s fairly reasonable, he’s taken advantage of a kinder fixture list and pulled us right back into it. What is important now is improving against the non bottom 4. We can’t continue to scrape a long at 0.4-0.6 points per game until March IMO.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jan 13, 2020 0:38:43 GMT
I’d say he’s done better than expected and indeed done well . I'd say that the football is dire. The fans who turn up, week in, week out deserve a medal and a refund. The football on Saturday was nothing short of shit. Not saying that’s not the case but he’s more points than I expected from these games as I do believe in credit where credits due .Nor did I change my view on his appointment but the facts are he’s done better than I suggested he would .
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Jan 13, 2020 7:58:57 GMT
I'd say that the football is dire. The fans who turn up, week in, week out deserve a medal and a refund. The football on Saturday was nothing short of shit. Wasnt dire v Wedneday or Huddersfield. Wouldn't mind a medal though. How do I apply? By renewing your season ticket.
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Post by kristoff on Jan 13, 2020 13:26:44 GMT
I'd say that the football is dire. The fans who turn up, week in, week out deserve a medal and a refund. The football on Saturday was nothing short of shit. Not saying that’s not the case but he’s more points than I expected from these games as I do believe in credit where credits due .Nor did I change my view on his appointment but the facts are he’s done better than I suggested he would . Fair play for saying that mate. Rare on here 👍👍
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jan 13, 2020 14:36:00 GMT
I’d say he’s done better than expected and indeed done well . I'd say that the football is dire. The fans who turn up, week in, week out deserve a medal and a refund. The football on Saturday was nothing short of shit. Points first, entertainment second. It was poor Saturday but if that point keeps us up I'm really not bothered. We can worry about looking pretty when we've established ourselves as a competent side in this league. Until then bore more rigid if that's what it takes.
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Post by mano00001 on Jan 20, 2020 22:35:06 GMT
I think we are going backwards under O’Neill. No sign of him motivating the players Nice Comment 👏
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Post by mano00001 on Jan 25, 2020 17:49:54 GMT
MON came in 6pts from safety and now its 2 he has gained 10pts in 7 games, NJ gained 8pts in 15...Luton Wigan and Barnsley are worst then us. We have kept back to back clean sheets. MON is going to turn us into a team that will be tough to play against. The performances wont be pretty but its a results business would ye rather dominate a game and lose or win a scrapy game 1-0 with under 50% possesion, I know what I would want! Everyone saying about the tough fixtures comimg up as MON said he has had about 13 sessions and 7 games. So far I think he is doing a good job in the next 2/3 weeks the team will know what know the system inside out and he will bring in 2/3 playets that he will know will give 100% amd nothing else these players wont be flair players but believe me they will give 100%, MON will be a sucess at stoke I will say no more!
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Post by kjpt140v on Jan 25, 2020 21:53:34 GMT
Beg to differ he’s taking us backwards which seemed unthinkable , he’s ignoring the best players , i personally find not a single cell of optimism in his press conferences , selection , tactics or game management right now I’d say hell b3 lucky to get more than 36 points
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Post by kjpt140v on Jan 25, 2020 21:54:30 GMT
Beg to differ he’s taking us backwards which seemed unthinkable , he’s ignoring the best players , i personally find not a single cell of optimism in his press conferences , selection , tactics or game management right now I’d say hell b3 lucky to get more than 36 points So what are your thoughts now?
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jan 25, 2020 21:57:13 GMT
Beg to differ he’s taking us backwards which seemed unthinkable , he’s ignoring the best players , i personally find not a single cell of optimism in his press conferences , selection , tactics or game management right now I’d say hell b3 lucky to get more than 36 points So what are your thoughts now? Who cares!!
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jan 25, 2020 22:38:16 GMT
Beg to differ he’s taking us backwards which seemed unthinkable , he’s ignoring the best players , i personally find not a single cell of optimism in his press conferences , selection , tactics or game management right now I’d say hell b3 lucky to get more than 36 points So what are your thoughts now? I have said elsewhere and on a number of occasions he’s doing a great job and far better than I expected , long may it continue
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