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Post by mano00001 on Dec 14, 2019 21:58:33 GMT
MON came in 6pts from safety and now its 2 he has gained 10pts in 7 games, NJ gained 8pts in 15...Luton Wigan and Barnsley are worst then us. We have kept back to back clean sheets. MON is going to turn us into a team that will be tough to play against. The performances wont be pretty but its a results business would ye rather dominate a game and lose or win a scrapy game 1-0 with under 50% possesion, I know what I would want! Everyone saying about the tough fixtures comimg up as MON said he has had about 13 sessions and 7 games. So far I think he is doing a good job in the next 2/3 weeks the team will know what know the system inside out and he will bring in 2/3 playets that he will know will give 100% amd nothing else these players wont be flair players but believe me they will give 100%, MON will be a sucess at stoke
And we will be out of relagation zone by christmas 😉
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Dec 14, 2019 22:08:50 GMT
Beg to differ he’s taking us backwards which seemed unthinkable , he’s ignoring the best players , i personally find not a single cell of optimism in his press conferences , selection , tactics or game management right now I’d say hell b3 lucky to get more than 36 points
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Post by darksideofthemoon on Dec 14, 2019 22:09:10 GMT
MON came in 6pts from safety and now its 2 he has gained 10pts in 7 games, NJ gained 8pts in 15...Luton Wigan and Barnsley are worst then us. We have kept back to back clean sheets. MON is going to turn us into a team that will be tough to play against. The performances wont be pretty but its a results business would ye rather dominate a game and lose or win a scrapy game 1-0 with under 50% possesion, I know what I would want! Everyone saying about the tough fixtures comimg up as MON said he has had about 13 sessions and 7 games. So far I think he is doing a good job in the next 2/3 weeks the team will know what know the system inside out and he will bring in 2/3 playets that he will know will give 100% amd nothing else these players wont be flair players but believe me they will give 100%, MON will be a sucess at stoke And we will be out of relagation zone by christmas 😉
I noticed that Barnsley beat QPR 5-3 over the weekend.
How good would it be if we could score 5 in one game!!??
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Post by Picasso on Dec 14, 2019 22:11:54 GMT
I think you might have proved his point about negativity. We beat Barnsley 4-2 😉
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Post by h5nty on Dec 14, 2019 22:13:05 GMT
Beg to differ he’s taking us backwards which seemed unthinkable , he’s ignoring the best players , i personally find not a single cell of optimism in his press conferences , selection , tactics or game management right now I’d say hell b3 lucky to get more than 36 points He isn’t Pulis, he could win the league, shag Meghan Markle, bring Ronaldo and Messi in and you would still moan like a bitch!
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Post by mano00001 on Dec 14, 2019 22:14:25 GMT
MON came in 6pts from safety and now its 2 he has gained 10pts in 7 games, NJ gained 8pts in 15...Luton Wigan and Barnsley are worst then us. We have kept back to back clean sheets. MON is going to turn us into a team that will be tough to play against. The performances wont be pretty but its a results business would ye rather dominate a game and lose or win a scrapy game 1-0 with under 50% possesion, I know what I would want! Everyone saying about the tough fixtures comimg up as MON said he has had about 13 sessions and 7 games. So far I think he is doing a good job in the next 2/3 weeks the team will know what know the system inside out and he will bring in 2/3 playets that he will know will give 100% amd nothing else these players wont be flair players but believe me they will give 100%, MON will be a sucess at stoke And we will be out of relagation zone by christmas 😉
I noticed that Barnsley beat QPR 5-3 over the weekend.
How good would it be if we could score 5 in one game!!?? 1-0 will be enough..dont get extra points for scoring more goals! MON system when the players get to know it better believe me they wont concede much
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Dec 14, 2019 22:15:10 GMT
Beg to differ he’s taking us backwards which seemed unthinkable , he’s ignoring the best players , i personally find not a single cell of optimism in his press conferences , selection , tactics or game management right now I’d say hell b3 lucky to get more than 36 points He isn’t Pulis, he could win the league, shag Meghan Markle, bring Ronaldo and Messi in and you would still moan like a bitch! Yep, you’ll notice the harbinger of doom rarely turns up when we win!
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Post by mano00001 on Dec 14, 2019 22:16:05 GMT
Beg to differ he’s taking us backwards which seemed unthinkable , he’s ignoring the best players , i personally find not a single cell of optimism in his press conferences , selection , tactics or game management right now I’d say hell b3 lucky to get more than 36 points He isn’t Pulis, he could win the league, shag Meghan Markle, bring Ronaldo and Messi in and you would still moan like a bitch! We will finish on 47pts i reckon..I guarantee you it will more than 36pts anyway
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Dec 14, 2019 22:16:06 GMT
Beg to differ he’s taking us backwards which seemed unthinkable , he’s ignoring the best players , i personally find not a single cell of optimism in his press conferences , selection , tactics or game management right now I’d say hell b3 lucky to get more than 36 points He isn’t Pulis, he could win the league, shag Meghan Markle, bring Ronaldo and Messi in and you would still moan like a bitch! Wrong man I don’t adore pulis I think he and many others would do a better job as they have far more relevant qualifications but if I felt O’Neil had given any evidence for optimism I’d say
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Post by march4 on Dec 14, 2019 22:17:12 GMT
I think we are going backwards under O’Neill.
No sign of him motivating the players
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Post by mano00001 on Dec 14, 2019 22:19:26 GMT
I think we are going backwards under O’Neill. No sign of him motivating the players Backwards?? clearly not when we have gained more pts in 7 games than we did in 15 with NJ
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Post by Veritas on Dec 14, 2019 22:22:04 GMT
Beg to differ he’s taking us backwards which seemed unthinkable , he’s ignoring the best players , i personally find not a single cell of optimism in his press conferences , selection , tactics or game management right now I’d say hell b3 lucky to get more than 36 points He has a much better points per game ratio and the "better players" were prominent in the massively underperforming sides prior to his arrival. I personally would be picking Etebo, Badou and Gregory but he isn't and we are getting more points than we were so what do I know.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2019 22:22:16 GMT
I'm less than impressed with him so far. Suspect starting line ups, very debatable in game management and the football is negative beyond belief. Proper eye bleeding nonsense.
Today was appalling football in particular.
It would help if he stopped his Little Britain routine. For a professional football team at any level to have no shots on target is completely unacceptable.
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Post by mano00001 on Dec 14, 2019 22:25:42 GMT
I think we are going backwards under O’Neill. No sign of him motivating the players If we are going backwards what are charlton amd wigan doing they havent won a game in 10games
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Post by lordherefordsknob on Dec 14, 2019 22:25:51 GMT
He's doing what any decent manager in this situation would do.
Sort the defence out first, make sure we don't lose, the attacking options will come later.
Admittedly it has taken him a few games to sort out the defence but he is getting there with it. With the tools he's got at his disposal I'd say he's making a decent job of it.
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Post by mano00001 on Dec 14, 2019 22:27:40 GMT
He's doing what any decent manager in this situation would do. Sort the defence out first, make sure we don't lose, the attacking options will come later. Admittedly it has taken him a few games to sort out the defence but he is getting there with it. With the tools he's got at his disposal I'd say he's making a decent job of it. Agreed if you dont concede you dont lose..If we dont lose games we will be fine
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Post by sutekh on Dec 14, 2019 22:31:20 GMT
I think we are going backwards under O’Neill. No sign of him motivating the players The capped cunt is still not coming back fella so let it go as you are becoming a fucking embarrassment now.
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Post by potterpaul on Dec 14, 2019 22:31:38 GMT
What worries me is we as fans are looking forward to seeing the return of Verlinden in Jan but the signs look very negative that he would even consider him.
It must be brought up in the interviews with prospective managers.
"Right Michael, after intensive research, these are the main points most supporters would like implementing, we are looking for someone to implement the complete opposite"
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Dec 14, 2019 22:31:55 GMT
Beg to differ he’s taking us backwards which seemed unthinkable , he’s ignoring the best players , i personally find not a single cell of optimism in his press conferences , selection , tactics or game management right now I’d say hell b3 lucky to get more than 36 points He has a much better points per game ratio and the "better players" were prominent in the massively underperforming sides prior to his arrival. I personally would be picking Etebo, Badou and Gregory but he isn't and we are getting more points than we were so what do I know. Jones last 4 games got 6 points from Swansea , Fulham , Millwall and Sheffield Wednesday let’s see how O’Neil does for the 4 games starting Boxing Day , personally I think he’ll get less than three , he’s taking us backwards .
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Post by mano00001 on Dec 14, 2019 22:33:49 GMT
What worries me is we as fans are looking forward to seeing the return of Verlinden in Jan but the signs look very negative that he would even consider him. It must be brought up in the interviews with prospective managers. "Right Michael, after intensive research, these are the main points most supporters would like implementing, we are looking for someone to implement the complete opposite" If they didnt allow him to play FA cup I think he is in consideration
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Post by heworksardtho on Dec 14, 2019 22:39:04 GMT
MON came in 6pts from safety and now its 2 he has gained 10pts in 7 games, NJ gained 8pts in 15...Luton Wigan and Barnsley are worst then us. We have kept back to back clean sheets. MON is going to turn us into a team that will be tough to play against. The performances wont be pretty but its a results business would ye rather dominate a game and lose or win a scrapy game 1-0 with under 50% possesion, I know what I would want! Everyone saying about the tough fixtures comimg up as MON said he has had about 13 sessions and 7 games. So far I think he is doing a good job in the next 2/3 weeks the team will know what know the system inside out and he will bring in 2/3 playets that he will know will give 100% amd nothing else these players wont be flair players but believe me they will give 100%, MON will be a sucess at stoke And we will be out of relagation zone by christmas 😉 I’m with you Mrs O’Neil
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Post by Gods on Dec 14, 2019 22:43:16 GMT
MON has been fortunate in the sense that he could not have picked 7 easier matches in which to start his tenure at Stoke City if he'd chosen them himself.
10 points from those 7 fixtures must be at the low end of expectations.
6 out of the next 9 games are away from home including WBA and Fulham, things are about to start getting real.
I remain hopeful that we will survive but any negativity is fully understandable, we have suffered 3 years of coming last in any stat you care to mention, it's little wonder folks are not wandering round with an inane grin fixed on their faces!
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Post by mano00001 on Dec 14, 2019 22:49:50 GMT
MON has been fortunate in the sense that he could not have picked 7 easier matches in which to start his tenure at Stoke City if he'd chosen them himself. 10 points from those 7 fixtures must be at the low end of expectations. 6 out of the next 9 games are away from home including WBA and Fulham, things are about to start getting real. I remain hopeful that we will survive but any negativity is fully understandable, we have suffered 3 years of coming last in any stat you care to mention, it's little wonder folks are not wandering round with an inane grin fixed on their faces! Agreed they were easy enough games but the players have to get used to the system which I think the players are now..the system is not to concede much and he will get a striker in january
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Post by rondogmcmuffin on Dec 14, 2019 22:51:32 GMT
I think we are going backwards under O’Neill. No sign of him motivating the players We've picked up more points in half as many games since his appointment. Your post isn't even an opinion, it's factually incorrect.
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Post by mano00001 on Dec 14, 2019 22:55:03 GMT
I think we are going backwards under O’Neill. No sign of him motivating the players We've picked up more points in half as many games since his appointment. Your post isn't even an opinion, it's factually incorrect. Correct 2pts more than NJ got in 8 less games. Everything talking about next 9 gamew 6 are away..the players have another full week to get the system drilled into them..the system will be so hard to break down in next 2/3 weeks..striker in then in January..I Keep saying it MON will be a success
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Dec 14, 2019 22:56:05 GMT
I think we are going backwards under O’Neill. No sign of him motivating the players We've picked up more points in half as many games since his appointment. Your post isn't even an opinion, it's factually incorrect. Benign games come back after the 4 games starting Boxing Day Jones took 6 points from Wednesday , Fulham , Millwall and Swansea fancy O’Neil won’t get within 50% of that , he’s Hopelessly out of his depth and the Eyebo Badou saga shows cowardice.
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Post by Gods on Dec 14, 2019 22:56:10 GMT
MON has been fortunate in the sense that he could not have picked 7 easier matches in which to start his tenure at Stoke City if he'd chosen them himself. 10 points from those 7 fixtures must be at the low end of expectations. 6 out of the next 9 games are away from home including WBA and Fulham, things are about to start getting real. I remain hopeful that we will survive but any negativity is fully understandable, we have suffered 3 years of coming last in any stat you care to mention, it's little wonder folks are not wandering round with an inane grin fixed on their faces! Agreed they were easy enough games but the players have to get used to the system which I think the players are now..the system is not to concede much and he will get a striker in january Yeah perhaps, today was a bitter disappointment, playing at home against a team who only have one more victory than us and we didn't manage a single attempt on target. Honestly I mean if you made it your single life goal to spend as much money as we have on player transfers and wages and end up with a team as poor as ours I don't think you could do it. Given the circumstances I am amazed at how sanguine folks are about this whole fiasco !
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Post by rondogmcmuffin on Dec 14, 2019 22:58:29 GMT
We've picked up more points in half as many games since his appointment. Your post isn't even an opinion, it's factually incorrect. Benign games come back after the 4 games starting Boxing Day Jones took 6 points from Wednesday , Fulham , Millwall and Swansea fancy O’Neil won’t get within 50% of that , he’s Hopelessly out of his depth and the Eyebo  Badou saga shows cowardice. What I stated is still a fact. However you dress it up, to say we've gone backwards when we've picked up more points in less games is factually incorrect. There is literally nothing anyone can say that makes March4s comments correct.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Dec 14, 2019 22:58:32 GMT
He's doing what any decent manager in this situation would do. Sort the defence out first, make sure we don't lose, the attacking options will come later. Admittedly it has taken him a few games to sort out the defence but he is getting there with it. With the tools he's got at his disposal I'd say he's making a decent job of it. He lost to Cardiff , Blackburn and hull add Boro to that lust next seek and that myth is well and truly exploded
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Post by mano00001 on Dec 14, 2019 23:01:04 GMT
He's doing what any decent manager in this situation would do. Sort the defence out first, make sure we don't lose, the attacking options will come later. Admittedly it has taken him a few games to sort out the defence but he is getting there with it. With the tools he's got at his disposal I'd say he's making a decent job of it. He lost to Cardiff , Blackburn and hull add Boro to that lust next seek and that myth is well and truly exploded You hardly thaught he would come in and win every game..when we player Cardiff the only lost 1 game at home and Blackburn are now 5games unbeaten and 2pts of playoffs
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