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Post by yardstick on Dec 2, 2019 10:51:54 GMT
May be a bit radical this but I think we've all had enough of watching the same faces disappointing week after week. I can't see this happening but wouldn't it be great if O'Neill mixed some of our promising youngsters in with the old guard from now on.
Recall Verlinden and Souttar (not sure if we can) and play them along with Campbell and Edwards. Apparently Ryan Corrigan is a potential star at left back in the Under 23's.
I can see the fans really getting behind the team with youngsters in there and you'd hope it would add some youthful enthusiasm to the team. Yeah, it's a risk but the whole place needs a lift and lets be honest, we're going down if things stay as they are at the moment.
Something like this after Christmas when Ryan is back:
Butland
Edwards Souttar/Collins Shawcross Corrigan
Badou Etebo
Verlinden Powell McLean
Campbell
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Post by backintheday on Dec 2, 2019 12:20:02 GMT
That famous phrase “You’ll never win anything with kids” springs to mind.
That being said we can’t win anything with the “mature and experienced” players pulling on the shirt at the moment.
Im sure given time to look at what he’s got our new manager will look to try to introduce some of out better youngsters into the squad and on the pitch.
It must be hellishly frustrating for the manager having to work within the constraints of player choice he has inherited and he deserves the full support, from the club and more importantly the players.
I just hope he gets the time to be able to stamp his mark on the side and help to bring belief again back into the club and anyone associated with it.
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Post by nottsover60 on Dec 2, 2019 14:47:05 GMT
Well Edwards and Campbell haven't covered themselves in glory so far. I don't understand where Collins has gone to but it seems he's been struggling with injuries. Souttar is on a season long loan so I doubt if we can recall him in Jan without Fleetwood's agreement. All of which leaves us with Verlindern who I would hope will get a chance in January and Corrigan who I've not heard anyone mention as being anywhere near first team standard. We need players who can perform now. The one I thought could do us a job was Lasse Sorensen when he played v Swansea but he doesn't seem to have progressed. I think the gap is larger than we imagine.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 2, 2019 15:09:33 GMT
Edwards has been fine.
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Post by bingbang on Dec 2, 2019 15:15:43 GMT
If you think Edwards is fine, it's quite obvious you know Jack shit about football..
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2019 15:16:42 GMT
I’d have Edwards, Collins, Verlinden playing and then possibly have Ngoy and Sorensen on the bench too.
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Post by cooper67 on Dec 2, 2019 16:05:50 GMT
If you think Edwards is fine, it's quite obvious you know Jack shit about football.. It hasn't taken you long to get up to speed. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 2, 2019 16:08:19 GMT
If you think Edwards is fine, it's quite obvious you know Jack shit about football.. I know that Stoke fans for some reason really don't take to academy players. Edwards has been fine and the reaction to him is really fucking odd. |
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Dec 2, 2019 16:21:54 GMT
Stoke: Haugaard, Thandi, Wara, Collins, Tymon, Waddington, Sorensen, Jarvis, Shenton, Verlinden, Campbell.
The team that faced the unwashed in the Check-a-trade. That went well!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 2, 2019 16:23:24 GMT
Stoke: Haugaard, Thandi, Wara, Collins, Tymon, Waddington, Sorensen, Jarvis, Shenton, Verlinden, Campbell. The team that faced the unwashed in the Check-a-trade. That went well! The weak link that game was the bloke in goal and Tymon. |
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Post by lordb on Dec 2, 2019 17:09:48 GMT
Not entirely He's chucked in some stinkers, he's picked up the ball watching habit that all our defenders have. However he's played well at times too and is still very young |
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Post by lordb on Dec 2, 2019 17:10:16 GMT
Stoke: Haugaard, Thandi, Wara, Collins, Tymon, Waddington, Sorensen, Jarvis, Shenton, Verlinden, Campbell. The team that faced the unwashed in the Check-a-trade. That went well! The weak link that game was the bloke in goal and Tymon. And Wara |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2019 17:38:39 GMT
I'd pick the youth players but not all of them at the same time. I thick a decent team can adapt itself to having one per section, i.e three plus one in goal if we have a good youth keeper. I think we have a couple young England keepers but they're both away on loan.
If it works for a few games, home and away, then add a couple more. Others may make cameos from the bench, but the idea of playing just kids doesn't bear thinking about.
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Post by chayseeoatcake on Dec 2, 2019 17:42:07 GMT
Have we got any academy players who are anywhere near stepping into the DM role?
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Post by zerps on Dec 2, 2019 17:47:59 GMT
Vale twatted the youngsters
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 2, 2019 17:51:12 GMT
Campbell leading the line will never go well, he just hasn't got it in him.
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Post by rawli on Dec 2, 2019 17:52:05 GMT
Vale twatted the youngsters We twatted the toilets though. Moral victory. |
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Post by zerps on Dec 2, 2019 17:55:06 GMT
Vale twatted the youngsters We twatted the toilets though. Moral victory. That’ll teach them. |
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Post by samstokie1 on Dec 2, 2019 18:05:44 GMT
what happened to soronsen? he had a decent debut at swansea then we never saw him again
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2019 19:33:06 GMT
what happened to soronsen? he had a decent debut at swansea then we never saw him again We saw him one more time under Jones. Then he broke his leg. He can do a decent job for us and could also become a free kick specialist. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 2, 2019 21:11:21 GMT
Not entirely He's chucked in some stinkers, he's picked up the ball watching habit that all our defenders have. However he's played well at times too and is still very young Which is fine. He’s young, he’ll make mistakes. |
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Post by dingdongbell on Dec 2, 2019 21:23:31 GMT
If you think Edwards is fine, it's quite obvious you know Jack shit about football.. Agreed . |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 2, 2019 21:35:57 GMT
The weak link that game was the bloke in goal and Tymon. And Wara It was a massive shame Souttar didn’t play. I actually thought we played the better football on the night. We just made some basic errors. If we had played the youth goalie (any of them), I think it would have only been 2-0. |
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Post by berahinosgoals on Dec 2, 2019 21:43:46 GMT
Can you imagine the uproar if he played the u23's at hull in the position we are in. No,we're stuck with the serial failures for now at least.
It would be nice to see n'goy given a chance if we're playing 433 though, seems to be direct and have pace from what I've seen and he cant be any worse than ince currently is
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Dec 3, 2019 20:01:33 GMT
Best way to stunt growth and destroy confidence? Chuck in all the youngsters with the toxic environment which the Brit is at the minute.
As for Edwards, he's been as bad as anybody else. He was dreadful against Wigan - that's the thing with young players, some games they're good, some they aren't. All part of the learning process.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2019 20:24:37 GMT
Best way to stunt growth and destroy confidence? Chuck in all the youngsters with the toxic environment which the Brit is at the minute. As for Edwards, he's been as bad as anybody else. He was dreadful against Wigan - that's the thing with young players, some games they're good, some they aren't. All part of the learning process. No need to go our stadium to "stunt growth and destroy confidence". Just read Jurgen Vandeurzen's post and you're sure never to have a young lad come near our stadium, which by the way you, like CCV, don't even know the name of. |
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Post by lordb on Dec 3, 2019 20:27:36 GMT
Have we got any academy players who are anywhere near stepping into the DM role? Sorrensson |
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Post by adi on Dec 3, 2019 20:29:45 GMT
Best way to stunt growth and destroy confidence? Chuck in all the youngsters with the toxic environment which the Brit is at the minute. As for Edwards, he's been as bad as anybody else. He was dreadful against Wigan - that's the thing with young players, some games they're good, some they aren't. All part of the learning process. Hopefully he improves, but for anyone to suggest that the standard of his play has been fine has very low expectations. He’s been ever present in a side that are currently going to get relegated. If relegation was the aim then Edwards has been fine... clearly not the accepted standard, ergo he’s not been fine. |
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Post by adi on Dec 3, 2019 20:31:57 GMT
Best way to stunt growth and destroy confidence? Chuck in all the youngsters with the toxic environment which the Brit is at the minute. As for Edwards, he's been as bad as anybody else. He was dreadful against Wigan - that's the thing with young players, some games they're good, some they aren't. All part of the learning process. No need to go our stadium to "stunt growth and destroy confidence". Just read Jurgen Vandeurzen's post and you're sure never to have a young lad come near our stadium, which by the way you, like CCV, don't even know the name of. If reading a forum post would do that kind of damage then they don’t have the mental resilience or mettle to make it at this level. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2019 5:06:53 GMT
No need to go our stadium to "stunt growth and destroy confidence". Just read Jurgen Vandeurzen's post and you're sure never to have a young lad come near our stadium, which by the way you, like CCV, don't even know the name of. If reading a forum post would do that kind of damage then they don’t have the mental resilience or mettle to make it at this level. You missed the point... |
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