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Post by wagsastokie on Oct 20, 2020 8:53:35 GMT
Somebody's feeling threatened... Starmer probably voted Remain as did most of his party and most of his voters? He then supported a re-negotiate and referendum as agreed Labour policy. After the general election his position like most of his party is to accept the decision to Leave but provide constructive criticism of Bluffer’s oven ready deal when/if it emerges from the oven? That’s a consistently sensible line to take and consistently follows Labour policy. Even Farage wanted another referendum on the evening of the referendum and he thought he had lost the vote? Would the majority of his voters also include the midlands northwest northeast Or are you just on about his Islington heartlands
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Oct 20, 2020 9:02:47 GMT
Starmer probably voted Remain as did most of his party and most of his voters? He then supported a re-negotiate and referendum as agreed Labour policy. After the general election his position like most of his party is to accept the decision to Leave but provide constructive criticism of Bluffer’s oven ready deal when/if it emerges from the oven? That’s a consistently sensible line to take and consistently follows Labour policy. Even Farage wanted another referendum on the evening of the referendum and he thought he had lost the vote? Would the majority of his voters also include the midlands northwest northeast Or are you just on about his Islington heartlands Labour voters across the country! This has been categorically shown to be true by research! Of course, there were pockets of Labour Leave areas like Stoke, Sunderland and others. Don’t judge the country by using a Stoke metric?!
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Post by xchpotter on Oct 20, 2020 9:33:47 GMT
Here we go. It must’ve been like this after the Christmas Day cease fire in WWI. Let the hostilities recommence.😂
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Oct 20, 2020 9:45:00 GMT
I see the VILE horrible bitch is making the headlines again Does she not want to get into power! 😂 As I’ve stated on here big before I’m a big fan of stramer but of course he’s changing his polio in line with both public opinion and what’s good for the party and himself. He’s the best hope of getting rid of the tories, if the labour left have any sense they’d shut the hell up well Kier going about fixing labours broken reputation they caused. Very few people trust the Labour Party anymore and it’s because of people like her JC and McDonnell
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 20, 2020 9:50:22 GMT
I see the VILE horrible bitch is making the headlines again Does she not want to get into power! 😂 As I’ve stated on here big before I’m a big fan of stramer but of course he’s changing his polio in line with both public opinion and what’s good for the party and himself. He’s the best hope of getting rid of the tories, if the labour left have any sense they’d shut the hell up well Kier going about fixing labours broken reputation they caused. Very few people trust the Labour Party anymore and it’s because of people like her JC and McDonnell Leave your principles at the door and just support any old shit. I can see why you're a big fan of Starmer
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Oct 20, 2020 9:58:01 GMT
Does she not want to get into power! 😂 As I’ve stated on here big before I’m a big fan of stramer but of course he’s changing his polio in line with both public opinion and what’s good for the party and himself. He’s the best hope of getting rid of the tories, if the labour left have any sense they’d shut the hell up well Kier going about fixing labours broken reputation they caused. Very few people trust the Labour Party anymore and it’s because of people like her JC and McDonnell Leave your principles at the door and just support any old shit. I can see why you're a big fan of Starmer Yeh probably fair enough. 😂 I admire you for having principles, but where have your principles actually got you? stramer may not be everything you want, he isn’t even everything I want but this Tory government are bloody awful in both principles and execution of plans. Stramer remains ( there’s a pun in there somewhere 😂) the best hope of removing this government, and that’s something this country needs
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 20, 2020 10:07:42 GMT
Leave your principles at the door and just support any old shit. I can see why you're a big fan of Starmer Yeh probably fair enough. 😂 I admire you for having principles, but where have your principles actually got you? stramer may not be everything you want, he isn’t even everything I want but this Tory government are bloody awful in both principles and execution of plans. Stramer remains ( there’s a pun in there somewhere 😂) the best hope of removing this government, and that’s something this country needs It just rings a bit hollow to me mate when moral vaccums like Streeting, Phillips and Kinnock preach unity to the left when they sabbotaged Labour success under the previous leadership at every turn. Would I prefer a Starmer Government than this bunch of heartless and corrupt liars. Yes but I've seen nothing whatsoever that it will offer mcuh more hope to thos on the bottom rung of society whilst offering all the same protections and comforts for those at the top.
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Oct 20, 2020 10:22:56 GMT
Yeh probably fair enough. 😂 I admire you for having principles, but where have your principles actually got you? stramer may not be everything you want, he isn’t even everything I want but this Tory government are bloody awful in both principles and execution of plans. Stramer remains ( there’s a pun in there somewhere 😂) the best hope of removing this government, and that’s something this country needs It just rings a bit hollow to me mate when moral vaccums like Streeting, Phillips and Kinnock preach unity to the left when they sabbotaged Labour success under the previous leadership at every turn. Would I prefer a Starmer Government than this bunch of heartless and corrupt liars. Yes but I've seen nothing whatsoever that it will offer mcuh more hope to thos on the bottom rung of society whilst offering all the same protections and comforts for those at the top. I completely understand you’re concerns and agree with many of them particularly when it comes to protection of those at the bottom, the problem there being 2 fold 1. Poorer people generally vote less frequently and so are less noticeable to politicians on all side, which is sad but the reality politics could be so much more ambitious if all of the public actually paid attention 2. Support for the poorer tends to mean welfare payments, and large section of the voting public, hate any notion of welfare or helping others, I’m on disability and get abused about it 😂 also see here refugees
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Post by lawrieleslie on Oct 20, 2020 10:34:38 GMT
Would the majority of his voters also include the midlands northwest northeast Or are you just on about his Islington heartlands Labour voters across the country! This has been categorically shown to be true by research! Of course, there were pockets of Labour Leave areas like Stoke, Sunderland and others. Don’t judge the country by using a Stoke metric?! Just dropped in on this thread so haven’t read all of it. So the research you refer to turns the 2019 GE on its head in that swathes of the north turned blue because Boris promise to take us out of the EU which is what the populace voted for. Or are you talking tongue in cheek?
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Oct 20, 2020 10:56:11 GMT
Labour voters across the country! This has been categorically shown to be true by research! Of course, there were pockets of Labour Leave areas like Stoke, Sunderland and others. Don’t judge the country by using a Stoke metric?! Just dropped in on this thread so haven’t read all of it. So the research you refer to turns the 2019 GE on its head in that swathes of the north turned blue because Boris promise to take us out of the EU which is what the populace voted for. Or are you talking tongue in cheek? I think you are conflating people’s referendum votes with a desire just to get things done? If 40% of Labour voters who voted Leave then voted Tory in the g.e. that gives you a Tory MP even in traditional Labour seats. But 40% isn’t bigger than 60%? Well it wasn’t when I was at skool!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2020 14:04:10 GMT
I see the VILE horrible bitch is making the headlines again The most abused politician in parliament is the vile, horrible bitch? Wow......
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 20, 2020 14:05:25 GMT
I see the VILE horrible bitch is making the headlines again The most abused politician in parliament is the vile, horrible bitch? Wow...... No wow from me and in my opinion that’s exactly what she is
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Post by wagsastokie on Oct 20, 2020 14:26:55 GMT
I see the VILE horrible bitch is making the headlines again The most abused politician in parliament is the vile, horrible bitch? Wow...... Vile horrible racist may well sum her up but bitch is totally unacceptable
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Post by followyoudown on Oct 20, 2020 14:53:38 GMT
The most abused politician in parliament is the vile, horrible bitch? Wow...... Vile horrible racist may well sum her up but bitch is totally unacceptable There are many things that you can abuse Abbot of not sure racism is one as for vile and horrible, I think she said she had a different haircut then so her support for the IRA and all doesn't count anymore
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Post by wagsastokie on Oct 20, 2020 14:57:46 GMT
Vile horrible racist may well sum her up but bitch is totally unacceptable There are many things that you can abuse Abbot of not sure racism is one as for vile and horrible, I think she said she had a different haircut then so her support for the IRA and all doesn't count anymore Racism sadly is committed on all creeds and colours by all creeds and colours
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2020 15:25:45 GMT
Vile horrible racist may well sum her up but bitch is totally unacceptable There are many things that you can abuse Abbot of not sure racism is one as for vile and horrible, I think she said she had a different haircut then so her support for the IRA and all doesn't count anymore She stated that IRA violence was as a result of British presence in N Ireland and a victory would end that. She was stating a fact to be fair, A rare moment of clarity for her
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Post by lawrieleslie on Oct 20, 2020 15:57:06 GMT
Just dropped in on this thread so haven’t read all of it. So the research you refer to turns the 2019 GE on its head in that swathes of the north turned blue because Boris promise to take us out of the EU which is what the populace voted for. Or are you talking tongue in cheek? I think you are conflating people’s referendum votes with a desire just to get things done? If 40% of Labour voters who voted Leave then voted Tory in the g.e. that gives you a Tory MP even in traditional Labour seats. But 40% isn’t bigger than 60%? Well it wasn’t when I was at skool! Sorry haven’t got a clue what you’re talking about?? You’ve lost me on the 40% vs 60%. Clearly 60% > 40% but where are you plucking these figures from. If you say 40% of labour voters voted leave I would question your source.
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Oct 20, 2020 16:11:48 GMT
I think you are conflating people’s referendum votes with a desire just to get things done? If 40% of Labour voters who voted Leave then voted Tory in the g.e. that gives you a Tory MP even in traditional Labour seats. But 40% isn’t bigger than 60%? Well it wasn’t when I was at skool! Sorry haven’t got a clue what you’re talking about?? You’ve lost me on the 40% vs 60%. Clearly 60% > 40% but where are you plucking these figures from. If you say 40% of labour voters voted leave I would question your source. Most Labour seats have 30% Tory voters. To get to 50% to win the seat they only needed 20% of the Labour vote. So to argue that because seats like Stoke, Burnley etc. elected Tory MPs doesn’t mean a majority of Labour voters voted for them?
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Post by vokeswagen on Oct 20, 2020 16:22:29 GMT
There are many things that you can abuse Abbot of not sure racism is one as for vile and horrible, I think she said she had a different haircut then so her support for the IRA and all doesn't count anymore Racism sadly is committed on all creeds and colours by all creeds and colours Liked by Northy ironically
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Post by wagsastokie on Oct 20, 2020 16:41:38 GMT
Racism sadly is committed on all creeds and colours by all creeds and colours Liked by Northy ironically Never mind who likes it do you agree with it
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Post by dutchstokie on Oct 20, 2020 17:09:29 GMT
Vile horrible racist may well sum her up but bitch is totally unacceptable There are many things that you can abuse Abbot of not sure racism is one as for vile and horrible, I think she said she had a different haircut then so her support for the IRA and all doesn't count anymore I’ve had first hand experience of Diane Abbott ‘engaging’ with her eloctorate in Hackney years ago and can categorically say she gave out racist abuse to two elderly ladies who were in the shop at the time. Not a very nice person
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Post by vokeswagen on Oct 20, 2020 17:18:02 GMT
Liked by Northy ironically Never mind who likes it do you agree with it You can try and deflect from the point I’m making all you like mate. It doesn’t make it any less daft for someone who posts racist things to like that post And yes of course anyone can be racist. Fuck me. No idea why you’d think otherwise.
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Post by wagsastokie on Oct 20, 2020 17:28:00 GMT
Never mind who likes it do you agree with it You can try and deflect from the point I’m making all you like mate. It doesn’t make it any less daft for someone who posts racist things to like that post And yes of course anyone can be racist. Fuck me. No idea why you’d think otherwise. I don’t which is why I posted it in the first time
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Post by ColonelMustard on Oct 21, 2020 9:21:00 GMT
Just dropped in on this thread so haven’t read all of it. So the research you refer to turns the 2019 GE on its head in that swathes of the north turned blue because Boris promise to take us out of the EU which is what the populace voted for. Or are you talking tongue in cheek? I think you are conflating people’s referendum votes with a desire just to get things done? If 40% of Labour voters who voted Leave then voted Tory in the g.e. that gives you a Tory MP even in traditional Labour seats. But 40% isn’t bigger than 60%? Well it wasn’t when I was at skool! The brexit party stood in labour seats.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 15, 2020 13:33:22 GMT
Good old Diane thick as pigshit
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 15, 2020 13:37:12 GMT
Good old Diane thick as pigshit She’s correct, she indeed doesn’t have a clue what she’s doing😏
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Post by felonious on Nov 15, 2020 13:51:19 GMT
Good old Diane thick as pigshit Best Home Secretary we never had.
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Post by Kpsje on Nov 15, 2020 15:12:25 GMT
i was going to post this on the ‘friday joke’ thread, but then this popped up. (smiley face)
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Post by mattyd2 on Nov 15, 2020 15:18:12 GMT
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Post by mattyd2 on Nov 15, 2020 15:19:00 GMT
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