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Post by Eggybread on Dec 10, 2019 13:44:10 GMT
or is it the terminal verbal diarrhoea she is suffering from that would render her not competent enough = Maybe you could help her out on that one. Why is it obvious? You have answered that one already. Struggling today aren't you darling. You were the one who said it was obvious but then refuse to say why ! and I am struggling Ok simple for ya, I think everyone on here is in agreement that she is not right for the job,an observation you have made to your enjoyment numerous times.Hence you have already answered the question.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 10, 2019 13:50:19 GMT
Of course the most incompetent public figure in modern Political history, is the white middle class man, Chris Grayling.
I wonder why Diane gets such atrocious stick (a lot of it from people with union jack's in their twitter handles) and white middle class man, Chris Grayling gets none.
Any ideas?
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Post by Eggybread on Dec 10, 2019 13:54:26 GMT
Of course the most incompetent public figure in modern Political history, is the white middle class man, Chris Grayling. I wonder why Diane gets such atrocious stick (a lot of it from people with union jack's in their twitter handles) and white middle class man, Chris Grayling gets none. Any ideas? Some people would say that the answer is racism.
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Post by foster on Dec 10, 2019 13:59:29 GMT
Of course the most incompetent public figure in modern Political history, is the white middle class man, Chris Grayling. I wonder why Diane gets such atrocious stick (a lot of it from people with union jack's in their twitter handles) and white middle class man, Chris Grayling gets none. Any ideas? Probably because she's said some embarrassingly hilarious things. If you're insinuating that the vast majority of people are making fun of her because she's black then you're mistaken.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Dec 10, 2019 14:44:50 GMT
Of course the most incompetent public figure in modern Political history, is the white middle class man, Chris Grayling. I wonder why Diane gets such atrocious stick (a lot of it from people with union jack's in their twitter handles) and white middle class man, Chris Grayling gets none. Any ideas? Good question. They're both equally useless.
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 10, 2019 14:48:05 GMT
Of course the most incompetent public figure in modern Political history, is the white middle class man, Chris Grayling. I wonder why Diane gets such atrocious stick (a lot of it from people with union jack's in their twitter handles) and white middle class man, Chris Grayling gets none. Any ideas? Some people would say that the answer is racism. Some people would say the answer is because she's an incompetent racist bigot who thinks Mao did more good than harm
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Post by Kilo on Dec 10, 2019 14:50:26 GMT
Of course the most incompetent public figure in modern Political history, is the white middle class man, Chris Grayling. I wonder why Diane gets such atrocious stick (a lot of it from people with union jack's in their twitter handles) and white middle class man, Chris Grayling gets none. Any ideas? Some people would say that the answer is racism. I think you'll find that people take the piss out of her because she says some incredibly stupid things not because she is black, but why not play the race card to win your argument. She should be happy about having the piss taken though as a type 2 diabetic she will be very thirsty and need a regular piss along with having an itchy fanny. What it doesn't do is make you say stupid things. Her medicine might also give her swollen ankles but then I think she might have had those anyway.
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 10, 2019 14:52:21 GMT
You were the one who said it was obvious but then refuse to say why ! and I am struggling Ok simple for ya, I think everyone on here is in agreement that she is not right for the job,an observation you have made to your enjoyment numerous times.Hence you have already answered the question. So eventually we get there you don't believe she is not right for the job, so why is she the shadow Home Secretary you know Home Secretary in waiting and could well as Corbinsky as her boss be just that, he obviously believes she is right for the job why else would he have made her his shadow Home Secretary.
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Post by dutchstokie on Dec 10, 2019 14:52:56 GMT
Some people would say that the answer is racism. I think you'll find that people take the piss out of her because she says some incredibly stupid things not because she is black, but why not play the race card to win your argument. She should be happy about having the piss taken though as a type 2 diabetic she will be very thirsty and need a regular piss along with having an itchy fanny. What it doesn't do is make you say stupid things. Her medicine might also give her swollen ankles but then I think she might have had those anyway.
Everyones a racist according to Chairman Mo.....
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 10, 2019 14:56:10 GMT
I think you'll find that people take the piss out of her because she says some incredibly stupid things not because she is black, but why not play the race card to win your argument. She should be happy about having the piss taken though as a type 2 diabetic she will be very thirsty and need a regular piss along with having an itchy fanny. What it doesn't do is make you say stupid things. Her medicine might also give her swollen ankles but then I think she might have had those anyway.
Everyones a racist according to Chairman Mo..... Apart from any anti Semite in the Labour Party of course
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 10, 2019 15:10:24 GMT
It must be something else then, why white, posh, middle class man, Chris Grayling by far the biggest incompetent in Politics in the past 15 years gets no stick and the black woman, Diane Abbot gets loads.
I'll have a think.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Dec 10, 2019 15:11:32 GMT
Ok simple for ya, I think everyone on here is in agreement that she is not right for the job,an observation you have made to your enjoyment numerous times.Hence you have already answered the question. So eventually we get there you don't believe she is not right for the job, so why is she the shadow Home Secretary you know Home Secretary in waiting and could well as Corbinsky as her boss be just that, he obviously believes she is right for the job why else would he have made her his shadow Home Secretary. She's got as much chance of being Home Secretary as we've got of being promoted, Carps. 😮
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Post by dutchstokie on Dec 10, 2019 15:19:11 GMT
Ok simple for ya, I think everyone on here is in agreement that she is not right for the job,an observation you have made to your enjoyment numerous times.Hence you have already answered the question. So eventually we get there you don't believe she is not right for the job, so why is she the shadow Home Secretary you know Home Secretary in waiting and could well as Corbinsky as her boss be just that, he obviously believes she is right for the job why else would he have made her his shadow Home Secretary. Because Diane's his party conference 'shag' when they fuck off to Blackpool for the party shindig every year "Fancy being Shadow Home Secretary Diane for the next 5 years" "4 years Jezza???? "Why only 3 years"? "You'll do - youre qualified" "Take this ya bitch"
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 10, 2019 15:45:13 GMT
So eventually we get there you don't believe she is not right for the job, so why is she the shadow Home Secretary you know Home Secretary in waiting and could well as Corbinsky as her boss be just that, he obviously believes she is right for the job why else would he have made her his shadow Home Secretary. She's got as much chance of being Home Secretary as we've got of being promoted, Carps. 😮 I wouldn't sat that yet Wizzer I can see a late surge ................. just making the play offs last game
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Post by georgieboy52 on Dec 10, 2019 15:49:39 GMT
Smug and clever I can just about stand.
I have a problem with smug and thick.
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Post by thevoid on Dec 10, 2019 15:49:51 GMT
Of course the most incompetent public figure in modern Political history, is the white middle class man, Chris Grayling. I wonder why Diane gets such atrocious stick (a lot of it from people with union jack's in their twitter handles) and white middle class man, Chris Grayling gets none. Any ideas? For the same reason people with red rose, EU and rainbow flag emojis on their Twitter profiles give people from the right dog's abuse? I know you Leftwaffe are more used to seeing Palestinian flags than Union Jacks but you shouldn't be so scared of it. It is, after all, the flag of Abbott's own country I believe?
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 10, 2019 15:50:36 GMT
So eventually we get there you don't believe she is not right for the job, so why is she the shadow Home Secretary you know Home Secretary in waiting and could well as Corbinsky as her boss be just that, he obviously believes she is right for the job why else would he have made her his shadow Home Secretary. Because Diane's his party conference 'shag' when they fuck off to Blackpool for the party shindig every year "Fancy being Shadow Home Secretary Diane for the next 5 years" "4 years Jezza???? "Why only 3 years"? "You'll do - youre qualified" "Take this ya bitch" He' have to strap a plank to his scrawny arse to stop him falling in, I actually feel a bit nauseous thinking about wrinkly Jezza mounting the Abbopotamus, if she farted she'd annihilate the old fecker.
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Post by georgieboy52 on Dec 10, 2019 15:54:29 GMT
Because Diane's his party conference 'shag' when they fuck off to Blackpool for the party shindig every year "Fancy being Shadow Home Secretary Diane for the next 5 years" "4 years Jezza???? "Why only 3 years"? "You'll do - youre qualified" "Take this ya bitch" He' have to strap a plank to his scrawny arse to stop him falling in, I actually feel a bit nauseous thinking about wrinkly Jezza mounting the Abbopotamus, if she farted she'd annihilate the old fecker. Blow the fuckin duvet out the window.
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Post by thevoid on Dec 10, 2019 15:58:19 GMT
Of course the most incompetent public figure in modern Political history, is the white middle class man, Chris Grayling. I wonder why Diane gets such atrocious stick (a lot of it from people with union jack's in their twitter handles) and white middle class man, Chris Grayling gets none. Any ideas? Probably because she's said some embarrassingly hilarious things. If you're insinuating that the vast majority of people are making fun of her because she's black then you're mistaken. Take the piss out of Abbott you're racist. Take the piss out of Owen Jones you're a homophobe. Take the piss out of Corbyn must make you a white-pensioner-from-Islingtonphobe then 😎 Here's me thinking some people just don't like the current Labour Party, regardless of colour, sex or who they prefer to bump uglies with. You live and learn.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 10, 2019 16:00:43 GMT
Of course the most incompetent public figure in modern Political history, is the white middle class man, Chris Grayling. I wonder why Diane gets such atrocious stick (a lot of it from people with union jack's in their twitter handles) and white middle class man, Chris Grayling gets none. Any ideas? For the same reason people with red rose, EU and rainbow flag emojis on their Twitter profiles give people from the right dog's abuse? I know you Leftwaffe are more used to seeing Palestinian flags then Union Jacks but you shouldn't be so scared of it. It is, after all, the flag of Abbott's own country I believe? Just a peculiarity that the most venomous attacks on her, including tweets copied in this thread, have more Union Jacks hanging around than a Tommy Robinson rally?
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Post by thevoid on Dec 10, 2019 16:09:23 GMT
For the same reason people with red rose, EU and rainbow flag emojis on their Twitter profiles give people from the right dog's abuse? I know you Leftwaffe are more used to seeing Palestinian flags then Union Jacks but you shouldn't be so scared of it. It is, after all, the flag of Abbott's own country I believe? Just a peculiarity that the most venomous attacks on her, including tweets copied in this thread, have more Union Jacks hanging around than a Tommy Robinson rally? Well perhaps some of those people, by the law of averages, are racist scumbags. But having the nation's flag in a Twitter profile doesn't make you racist by default. Maybe more people of a Labour persuasion should try using it? We must be the only country in the world where you'll see a conference for the main opposition party with loads of flags present for a nation on the other side of the world, and not a single one for the home country! It's bizarre.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 10, 2019 16:11:36 GMT
Just a peculiarity that the most venomous attacks on her, including tweets copied in this thread, have more Union Jacks hanging around than a Tommy Robinson rally? Well perhaps some of those people, by the law of averages, are racist scumbags. But having the nation's flag in a Twitter profile doesn't make you racist by default. Maybe more people of a Labour persuasion should try using it? We must be the only country in the world where you'll see a conference for the main opposition party with loads of flags present for a nation on the other side of the world, and not a single one for the home country! It's bizarre. I never said having the union flag in your twitter profile was racist in the slightest, just an observation regarding how the most vehement critics of Abbot and those with...erm more 'obvious' motives, over index on them!
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Post by harryburrows on Dec 10, 2019 16:34:07 GMT
It must be something else then, why white, posh, middle class man, Chris Grayling by far the biggest incompetent in Politics in the past 15 years gets no stick and the black woman, Diane Abbot gets loads. I'll have a think. Even you can't defend abbot she's is thick as a plank and rarely makes any sense when she speaks publicly . You need to ask yourself why she's been kept away from the media for the run in to the election. Bringing her colour into the argument is pointless.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 10, 2019 16:40:59 GMT
It must be something else then, why white, posh, middle class man, Chris Grayling by far the biggest incompetent in Politics in the past 15 years gets no stick and the black woman, Diane Abbot gets loads. I'll have a think. Even you can't defend abbot she's is thick as a plank and rarely makes any sense when she speaks publicly . You need to ask yourself why she's been kept away from the media for the run in to the election. Bringing her colour into the argument is pointless. There are far bigger wazzocks in Parliament on both sides. Grayling was the most incompetent minister in living memory, in every role he had, Rees-Mogg is just an entitled offensive bastard who hates poor people. Where are these Union Jackbooted Twitter trolls with the likes of these individuals if they put such a high store in competence? If you think nothing else is at work here for a lot of people, then I'm afraid you're deluded.
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Post by vokeswagen on Dec 10, 2019 18:40:35 GMT
It must be something else then, why white, posh, middle class man, Chris Grayling by far the biggest incompetent in Politics in the past 15 years gets no stick and the black woman, Diane Abbot gets loads. I'll have a think. Even you can't defend abbot she's is thick as a plank and rarely makes any sense when she speaks publicly . You need to ask yourself why she's been kept away from the media for the run in to the election. Bringing her colour into the argument is pointless. It's always awkward when a poster says of someone with a Cambridge degree who was hired to a civil service fast track programme that "she's is [sic] thick as a plank" in a post with various other grammatical errors. Competent to be Home Secretary? No. Thick? Unlikely.
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Post by daisydog on Dec 11, 2019 2:39:19 GMT
If you vote for the Tories and you're a Stokie then you're a scab pure and simple. Stop dressing it up as something else.
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Post by daisydog on Dec 11, 2019 3:06:19 GMT
There is nothing in that link that mentions the conservatives. It is a document detailing conversations between some NHS and clinical groups on how certain measure could cut costs. Now being drummed up by guardian and people like you to twist it to the detriment of the government So many things to have a go at the government about so why they resort to making shit up takes away from the real issues “But Professor Carrie MacEwan, chair of the AMRC, stood by the proposals, saying they are based on medical research and “in the best interests” of patients. She added: “Medicine continually evolves and it’s right that we don’t carry out tests, treatments or procedures when the evidence tells us they are inappropriate or ineffective and which, in some cases, can do more harm than good.” You see what you want us to see
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Post by daisydog on Dec 11, 2019 3:12:16 GMT
So when you're scared that you have prostate cancer and under new rules you're denied a test for cost cutting reasons that's ok. The men and women who suffered the second world war to gift us the NHS would be ashamed of us.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Dec 11, 2019 9:55:55 GMT
Even you can't defend abbot she's is thick as a plank and rarely makes any sense when she speaks publicly . You need to ask yourself why she's been kept away from the media for the run in to the election. Bringing her colour into the argument is pointless. There are far bigger wazzocks in Parliament on both sides. Grayling was the most incompetent minister in living memory, in every role he had, Rees-Mogg is just an entitled offensive bastard who hates poor people. Where are these Union Jackbooted Twitter trolls with the likes of these individuals if they put such a high store in competence? If you think nothing else is at work here for a lot of people, then I'm afraid you're deluded.
To be fair Momo, i'd say there are 2 far more obvious answers (and before you say it, i'm most certainly NOT a Tory in any way, shape or form, simply someone with a bit of common sense who thinks that playing the race card here is embarrassing).....
1) Most who take the piss out of Abbott DON'T tend to be Labour supporters (i know that's so blindingly obvious that it may be easy to miss), they're more commonly Tories. Strangely enough, those Tories AREN'T likely to go around taking the piss out of one of their own ministers are they, regardless of how bad he was?
2) A lot of the country aren't actually that engaged in politics until GEs roll around and therefore aren't aware of who all the Govt. Ministers actually are at any given time (it's not like the "Spitting image" days when we all knew who the members of the cabinet were....a lot of people nowadays just don't!) Diane Abbott is slightly more famous as a "household name", not because of her skin colour or evenbecause of her work as a MP, but because of the fact she shagged Corbyn and there was big scandal in the papers at the time......therefore most people will focus their piss taking on MPs they've actually heard of, and the simple fact is that a lot of the public wouldn't be able to pick Grayling out of a "Never mind the Buzzcocks" style lineup.
To label people taking the piss out of Abbott as racist is really scraping the barrel.
P.S. to imply that people haven't been taking the piss out of Rees-Mogg is just absurd as well as completely untrue! Both Rees-Mogg and Abbott have been ridiculed on many occasions. Both are higher profile (in the media) than Grayling ever has been.That's why those 2 get the piss taken and he didn't...it really is that simple.
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Post by Northy on Dec 11, 2019 10:04:59 GMT
Even you can't defend abbot she's is thick as a plank and rarely makes any sense when she speaks publicly . You need to ask yourself why she's been kept away from the media for the run in to the election. Bringing her colour into the argument is pointless. There are far bigger wazzocks in Parliament on both sides. Grayling was the most incompetent minister in living memory, in every role he had, Rees-Mogg is just an entitled offensive bastard who hates poor people. Where are these Union Jackbooted Twitter trolls with the likes of these individuals if they put such a high store in competence? If you think nothing else is at work here for a lot of people, then I'm afraid you're deluded. Can you imagine Abbott doing Mogg's job in parliament - noth nothin I mean nothing, nothing would, i meant to say erm nothing, actually what I meant to say is that nothing would err ever nothing would ever get, yes, nothing would ever get done
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