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Post by Pugsley on Dec 6, 2019 18:32:38 GMT
It's called "trolling". He is still finding it so disappointing that Poolis didn't get the job, that he resorts to trolling. No I'm being serious. If we lose to Hull and Luton at home then his position should be under review. Some folk on here saying that we've got to give him the season... even if we get relegated. Absolute crackpot thinking. Review after 6 games? Bollocks.
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Post by smallthorner on Dec 6, 2019 18:41:37 GMT
No I'm being serious. If we lose to Hull and Luton at home then his position should be under review. Some folk on here saying that we've got to give him the season... even if we get relegated. Absolute crackpot thinking. He has got this season, and next season. So. Just to clarify... If we get relegated this season you would be happy to keep Michael next season
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2019 18:42:49 GMT
He has got this season, and next season. So. Just to clarify... If we get relegated this season you would be happy to keep Michael next season Whether I am happy or not - he has this season and next, regardless of relegation.
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Post by Pugsley on Dec 6, 2019 18:45:34 GMT
He has got this season, and next season. So. Just to clarify... If we get relegated this season you would be happy to keep Michael next season Yes. Good managers get relegated and come back. O'Neil must be given time to assemble a committed squad and route out the tossers who don't want to be here.
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Post by smallthorner on Dec 6, 2019 18:45:38 GMT
So. Just to clarify... If we get relegated this season you would be happy to keep Michael next season Whether I am happy or not - he has this season and next, regardless of relegation. Is that your opinion? Or do you know that as fact?
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Dec 6, 2019 18:47:10 GMT
It's called "trolling". He is still finding it so disappointing that Poolis didn't get the job, that he resorts to trolling. No I'm being serious. If we lose to Hull and Luton at home then his position should be under review. Some folk on here saying that we've got to give him the season... even if we get relegated. Absolute crackpot thinking. Its not crack pot thinking. How many managers do we have to go through before we realise the problem isn't just the managers. The problem is elsewhere in the club and until the owners accept that truth then nothing much will change. They will have to accept it eventually because the way they are wasting money is obscene and as rich as they might be there will come a point where they simply have to do what they should have done at least 4 seasons ago and that is get JC off the case, sack Scholes and actually get some qualified experienced football people to set up a proper system. Its currently a full on doss house and the players have fully bought into it. Why else do decent players come in here and suddenly turn into Sunday pub players (no disrespect to any Sunday pub players on here! !)
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Post by smallthorner on Dec 6, 2019 18:50:02 GMT
No I'm being serious. If we lose to Hull and Luton at home then his position should be under review. Some folk on here saying that we've got to give him the season... even if we get relegated. Absolute crackpot thinking. Its not crack pot thinking. How many managers do we have to go through before we realise the problem isn't just the managers. The problem is elsewhere in the club and until the owners accept that truth then nothing much will change. They will have to accept it eventually because the way they are wasting money is obscene and as rich as they might be there will come a point where they simply have to do what they should have done at least 4 seasons ago and that is get JC off the case, sack Scholes and actually get some qualified experienced football people to set up a proper system. Its currently a full on doss house and the players have fully bought into it. Not playing Badou is nowt to do with Tony Scholes or the owners.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Dec 6, 2019 18:52:33 GMT
Its not crack pot thinking. How many managers do we have to go through before we realise the problem isn't just the managers. The problem is elsewhere in the club and until the owners accept that truth then nothing much will change. They will have to accept it eventually because the way they are wasting money is obscene and as rich as they might be there will come a point where they simply have to do what they should have done at least 4 seasons ago and that is get JC off the case, sack Scholes and actually get some qualified experienced football people to set up a proper system. Its currently a full on doss house and the players have fully bought into it. Not playing Badou is nowt to do with Tony Scholes or the owners. You have no idea why he isn't playing Badou though do you. For all you know Badou called him a c**t so to show some leadership he's side-lined him. Who knows but you certainly don't.
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Post by smallthorner on Dec 6, 2019 18:57:28 GMT
Not playing Badou is nowt to do with Tony Scholes or the owners. You have no idea why he isn't playing Badou though do you. For all you know Badou called him a c**t so to show some leadership he's side-lined him. Who knows but you certainly don't. Well..if that was the case and I was Michael... I would say "Badou isn't 100% fit at the moment.. blah blah" Or some such shit. Not "It's a tactical decision that he's not playing..."
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Dec 6, 2019 19:02:35 GMT
You have no idea why he isn't playing Badou though do you. For all you know Badou called him a c**t so to show some leadership he's side-lined him. Who knows but you certainly don't. Well..if that was the case and I was Michael... I would say "Badou isn't 100% fit at the moment.. blah blah" Or some such shit. Not "It's a tactical decision that he's not playing..." To be fair if I had taken this job and I was facing the press I would just fess up and say; fook me we have one shower of shit in that dressing room and its gonna take on hell of a turn a round to get some proper discipline back into them. If you ask me there is definitely a very big attitude problem festering in that dressing room that started with Hughes. And the criminal thing is that the senior management have done absolutely fuck all about it and every manager since Hughes has suffered because of it.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Dec 6, 2019 19:04:16 GMT
You have no idea why he isn't playing Badou though do you. For all you know Badou called him a c**t so to show some leadership he's side-lined him. Who knows but you certainly don't. Well..if that was the case and I was Michael... I would say "Badou isn't 100% fit at the moment.. blah blah" Or some such shit. Not "It's a tactical decision that he's not playing..." and anyway chief we are going on a 10 game winning streak starting tomorrow so dunna werrit.
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Post by smallthorner on Dec 6, 2019 19:09:04 GMT
Well..if that was the case and I was Michael... I would say "Badou isn't 100% fit at the moment.. blah blah" Or some such shit. Not "It's a tactical decision that he's not playing..." To be fair if I had taken this job and I was facing the press I would just fess up and say; fook me we have one shower of shit in that dressing room and its gonna take on hell of a turn a round to get some proper discipline back into them. If you ask me there is definitely a very big attitude problem festering in that dressing room that started with Hughes. And the criminal thing is that the senior management have done absolutely fuck all about it and every manager since Hughes has suffered because of it. We've had about four clear outs since then.. The only ones you could possibly put into that category are Allen and Butland. Who Michael has "bigged up" and picked. I still maintain that a decent manager should be able to keep us up with this squad.
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Post by smallthorner on Dec 6, 2019 19:11:12 GMT
Well..if that was the case and I was Michael... I would say "Badou isn't 100% fit at the moment.. blah blah" Or some such shit. Not "It's a tactical decision that he's not playing..." and anyway chief we are going on a 10 game winning streak starting tomorrow so dunna werrit. Let's hope so. I like the cut of his gib (Michael that is) ... but a few crazy selections, substitutions and comments have got me worried.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Dec 6, 2019 19:15:13 GMT
To be fair if I had taken this job and I was facing the press I would just fess up and say; fook me we have one shower of shit in that dressing room and its gonna take on hell of a turn a round to get some proper discipline back into them. If you ask me there is definitely a very big attitude problem festering in that dressing room that started with Hughes. And the criminal thing is that the senior management have done absolutely fuck all about it and every manager since Hughes has suffered because of it. We've had about four clear outs since then.. The only ones you could possibly put into that category are Allen and Butland. Who Michael has "bigged up" and picked. I still maintain that a decent manager should be able to keep us up with this squad. Which is why I would have accepted Pulis back till the end of the season only. But I am sensible enough to see that Pulis would have caused too much friction with the fans. And to be fair even though I always liked Pulis his time here is done. We need to move on but the board need to wake the fuck up and catch up with the rest of the footballing world. We have stood still, the footballing world has moved on and those dumb feckers upstairs are sitting there wondering what the fuck went wrong. Its just pathetic leadership.
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Post by lordb on Dec 6, 2019 20:01:59 GMT
He has got this season, and next season. So. Just to clarify... If we get relegated this season you would be happy to keep Michael next season Yes 100% He's walked into an absolute nightmare, frankly I'm amazed he's got two wins - one by four goals away and the other coming from behind - out of four. Name any manager you like (including Pulis) to get Stoke to safety out of this mess he's come into is a huge task. . O'Neill is a proven success he needs 18 months at least before we can expect genuine progress. Alternatively sack the manager every few months see where that gets you.
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Post by lordb on Dec 6, 2019 20:03:17 GMT
We've had about four clear outs since then.. The only ones you could possibly put into that category are Allen and Butland. Who Michael has "bigged up" and picked. I still maintain that a decent manager should be able to keep us up with this squad. Which is why I would have accepted Pulis back till the end of the season only. But I am sensible enough to see that Pulis would have caused too much friction with the fans. And to be fair even though I always liked Pulis his time here is done. We need to move on but the board need to wake the fuck up and catch up with the rest of the footballing world. We have stood still, the footballing world has moved on and those dumb feckers upstairs are sitting there wondering what the fuck went wrong. Its just pathetic leadership. Pulis would have tightened up the defence a good percentage at a cost at the other end. We'd lose most games 1.0
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Post by lordb on Dec 6, 2019 20:04:10 GMT
To be fair if I had taken this job and I was facing the press I would just fess up and say; fook me we have one shower of shit in that dressing room and its gonna take on hell of a turn a round to get some proper discipline back into them. If you ask me there is definitely a very big attitude problem festering in that dressing room that started with Hughes. And the criminal thing is that the senior management have done absolutely fuck all about it and every manager since Hughes has suffered because of it. We've had about four clear outs since then.. The only ones you could possibly put into that category are Allen and Butland. Who Michael has "bigged up" and picked. I still maintain that a decent manager should be able to keep us up with this squad. With that bunch of defenders?
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Post by smallthorner on Dec 6, 2019 20:21:57 GMT
So. Just to clarify... If we get relegated this season you would be happy to keep Michael next season Yes 100% He's walked into an absolute nightmare, frankly I'm amazed he's got two wins - one by four goals away and the other coming from behind - out of four. Name any manager you like (including Pulis) to get Stoke to safety out of this mess he's come into is a huge task. . O'Neill is a proven success he needs 18 months at least before we can expect genuine progress. Alternatively sack the manager every few months see where that gets you. He's a proven success.?? In International management he's done a good job. He's totally unproven in day to day Club management. Good luck Michael. You will become a SCFC hero if you keep us up this season.
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Post by lordb on Dec 6, 2019 20:31:27 GMT
Yes 100% He's walked into an absolute nightmare, frankly I'm amazed he's got two wins - one by four goals away and the other coming from behind - out of four. Name any manager you like (including Pulis) to get Stoke to safety out of this mess he's come into is a huge task. . O'Neill is a proven success he needs 18 months at least before we can expect genuine progress. Alternatively sack the manager every few months see where that gets you. He's a proven success.?? In International management he's done a good job. He's totally unproven in day to day Club management. Good luck Michael. You will become a SCFC hero if you keep us up this season. He's a proven success at both club and international management. That's a fact. It's also a fact that this bunch can't defend - under just the last four managers - Going to take a long time to change that but hey if you think sacking managers after six games is a good idea then fuck knows why I'm bothering
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Post by smallthorner on Dec 6, 2019 20:37:37 GMT
He's a proven success.?? In International management he's done a good job. He's totally unproven in day to day Club management. Good luck Michael. You will become a SCFC hero if you keep us up this season. He's a proven success at both club and international management. That's a fact. It's also a fact that this bunch can't defend - under just the last four managers - Going to take a long time to change that but hey if you think sacking managers after six games is a good idea then fuck knows why I'm bothering Proven success at Club level? Oh right.. 🤣 Look.. don't go all shitty. If we lose the next two games I'd sack him and get Silva or Pulis in. If we get relegated this season I'd sack him. You've stated he's a proven success.. So prove it Michael.
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Post by march4 on Dec 6, 2019 20:42:39 GMT
He's a proven success.?? In International management he's done a good job. He's totally unproven in day to day Club management. Good luck Michael. You will become a SCFC hero if you keep us up this season. He's a proven success at both club and international management. That's a fact. It's also a fact that this bunch can't defend - under just the last four managers - Going to take a long time to change that but hey if you think sacking managers after six games is a good idea then fuck knows why I'm bothering He has no relevant experience of any kind whatsoever for a club in our position never mind success. Our club needs a proper manager who knows how to get clubs out of our predicament and they need one now.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2019 21:05:28 GMT
He's a proven success at both club and international management. That's a fact. It's also a fact that this bunch can't defend - under just the last four managers - Going to take a long time to change that but hey if you think sacking managers after six games is a good idea then fuck knows why I'm bothering He has no relevant experience of any kind whatsoever for a club in our position never mind success. Our club needs a proper manager who knows how to get clubs out of our predicament and they need one now. I hope you don't mind me asking March, but who do you have in mind for that 'proper manager' ?
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Post by Pugsley on Dec 6, 2019 21:57:24 GMT
He's a proven success at both club and international management. That's a fact. It's also a fact that this bunch can't defend - under just the last four managers - Going to take a long time to change that but hey if you think sacking managers after six games is a good idea then fuck knows why I'm bothering Proven success at Club level? Oh right.. 🤣 Look.. don't go all shitty. If we lose the next two games I'd sack him and get Silva or Pulis in. If we get relegated this season I'd sack him. You've stated he's a proven success.. So prove it Michael. Silva? Jesus hates christ.
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Post by smallthorner on Dec 6, 2019 22:10:53 GMT
Proven success at Club level? Oh right.. 🤣 Look.. don't go all shitty. If we lose the next two games I'd sack him and get Silva or Pulis in. If we get relegated this season I'd sack him. You've stated he's a proven success.. So prove it Michael. Silva? Jesus hates christ. He'd keep us up. Sign Leighton Baines on loan for rest of season in January. Ryan back. What's not to like.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2019 22:24:45 GMT
Silva? Jesus hates christ. He'd keep us up. Sign Leighton Baines on loan for rest of season in January. Ryan back. What's not to like. LMH, Lambert and Rowett would all have kept us up. Jones unfortunately sank us until the shit was up to our necks. MON may keep us up.
Your persistent trolling is what I don't like.
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Post by smallthorner on Dec 6, 2019 22:28:27 GMT
He'd keep us up. Sign Leighton Baines on loan for rest of season in January. Ryan back. What's not to like. LMH, Lambert and Rowett would all have kept us up. Jones unfortunately sank us until the shit was up to our necks. MON may keep us up.
Your persistent trolling is what I don't like.
Dunno what you're on about mate. Not even sure if I know what trolling is. I just post stuff like other people. What's your problem?
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Post by march4 on Dec 6, 2019 22:36:36 GMT
He'd keep us up. Sign Leighton Baines on loan for rest of season in January. Ryan back. What's not to like. LMH, Lambert and Rowett would all have kept us up. Jones unfortunately sank us until the shit was up to our necks. MON may keep us up. Your persistent trolling is what I don't like.
Disagree about LMH mate but agree about the other two. Don’t think O’Neill stands a chance of keeping us up.
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Post by wilcopotter on Dec 6, 2019 22:39:40 GMT
LMH, Lambert and Rowett would all have kept us up. Jones unfortunately sank us until the shit was up to our necks. MON may keep us up. Your persistent trolling is what I don't like.
Disagree about LMH mate but agree about the other two. Don’t think O’Neill stands a chance of keeping us up. wouldn’t expect anything different, very predictable 👍
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2019 23:35:42 GMT
LMH, Lambert and Rowett would all have kept us up. Jones unfortunately sank us until the shit was up to our necks. MON may keep us up. Your persistent trolling is what I don't like.
Disagree about LMH mate but agree about the other two. Don’t think O’Neill stands a chance of keeping us up. Well after the abortion that was Jones, I could agree with you. We are sunk.
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Post by hyaduck on Dec 7, 2019 0:01:24 GMT
If Hughes was still manager I firmly believe we'd be sitting comfortably in the Premier League.
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