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Post by ravey123 on Nov 30, 2019 10:47:17 GMT
Here’s another Tory-hating cunt supporting Corbyn’s ‘shoot to kill’ stance. A revolutionary socialist? 🙄... Looking at his Twitter feed, I’d call him a thoroughly nasty little shit!! He says the shoot to kill policy is murder then puts the hashtag civil rights. What about the civil rights of the poor innocent people who are killed by these terrorists. Think he'd withdraw that stupid comment if one of the innocent people murdered was a friend of family member of his. Remember people - everyone who is affected by these terrorists is someone's son, daughter, mother, father, brother or sister (and in most cases multiples of these) - never forget that
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2019 10:49:05 GMT
Ah ok make it about politics again 🙄 These events usually are "about politics". What's your point, caller? 3 pages of people whinging at someone else for making it about politics but when you want to have a crack at Labour it’s totally fine apparently. Hypocrites.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Nov 30, 2019 10:49:43 GMT
The police dealt with this as perfectly as they could.
Arrive, kill the cunt like the dog he is with no hesitation, no pointless trial, no waste of the taxpayers money keeping the prick behind bars.
Big hats off to the Met.
Might be a deterrent to some of the pussies that want to hurt people but not be hurt themselves thinking they can lap it up in a prison cell, the police are now killing you like the fucking vermin you are, superb.
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Post by thevoid on Nov 30, 2019 10:51:04 GMT
Purple hair, rainbow emoji, do-gooder starter kit. Funnily enough inncocent people going about their day and being killed by terrorists doesn't fit well with me. EDIT Just had a quick look at her posts, she clearly has issues Issues? She’s demented Momentum Airways made me laugh though. How would that work, could I buy an Economy ticket but identify as Business Class? Bet they wouldn't fly to Israel 😊
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Post by serpico on Nov 30, 2019 11:00:35 GMT
The police dealt with this as perfectly as they could. Arrive, kill the cunt like the dog he is with no hesitation, no pointless trial, no waste of the taxpayers money keeping the prick behind bars. Big hats off to the Met. Might be a deterrent to some of the pussies that want to hurt people but not be hurt themselves thinking they can lap it up in a prison cell, the police are now killing you like the fucking dogs you are, superb. I don’t think it’s really much of a deterrent as someone who carries out such an attack probably plans on being killed themselves, it’s what they want, he probably didn’t have the knowhow to construct a proper suicide vest, or was under too much survailence to gather the materials so made a fake one to keep any potential have a go heroes at bay as he killed, thankfully a few good men ignored this danger and stopped him.
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Post by salopstick on Nov 30, 2019 11:01:28 GMT
Momentum Airways made me laugh though. How would that work, could I buy an Economy ticket but identify as Business Class? Bet they wouldn't fly to Israel 😊 It’s these people without a grasp on the real world who are dragging this country down. Did you see her tweet asking for recommendations of an Indian restaurant not owned by Indians because she is upset with India’s dispute with Pakistan Fucking hell this is the future of our country. A person who says only binary people can act in transgender roles Yep a fucking shitehawk
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Post by serpico on Nov 30, 2019 11:10:21 GMT
Pretty sure if they could have subdued him and arrested him they would have, UK police aren’t known for being trigger happy, but You’ve got a maniac running around randomly stabbing people with what looks like a suicide vest on, he’s on the floor probably threatening to detonate it, I don’t see what option they had ?
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Post by bathstoke on Nov 30, 2019 11:10:52 GMT
Momentum Airways made me laugh though. How would that work, could I buy an Economy ticket but identify as Business Class? Bet they wouldn't fly to Israel 😊 It’s these people without a grasp on the real world who are dragging this country down. Did you see her tweet asking for recommendations of an Indian restaurant not owned by Indians because she is upset with India’s dispute with Pakistan Fucking hell this is the future of our country. A person who says only binary people can act in transgender roles Yep a fucking shitehawk Well I’ve never forgiven Coronation St for casting Julie Hesondhalgh as Hayley Cropper RIP
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Post by bathstoke on Nov 30, 2019 11:13:33 GMT
Pretty sure if they could have subdued him and arrested him they would have, UK police aren’t known for being trigger happy, but You’ve got a maniac running around randomly stabbing people with what looks like a suicide vest on, he’s on the floor probably threatening to detonate it, I don’t see what option they had ? Have you ever heard of Jean Charles da Silva e de Menezes...🇧🇷
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Nov 30, 2019 11:17:42 GMT
Pretty sure if they could have subdued him and arrested him they would have, UK police aren’t known for being trigger happy, but You’ve got a maniac running around randomly stabbing people with what looks like a suicide vest on, he’s on the floor probably threatening to detonate it, I don’t see what option they had ? Have you ever heard of Jean Charles da Silva e de Menezes...🇧🇷 Having to cite an incident from 14 years ago suggests that the Police are not trigger happy.
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Post by serpico on Nov 30, 2019 11:21:44 GMT
Pretty sure if they could have subdued him and arrested him they would have, UK police aren’t known for being trigger happy, but You’ve got a maniac running around randomly stabbing people with what looks like a suicide vest on, he’s on the floor probably threatening to detonate it, I don’t see what option they had ? Have you ever heard of Jean Charles da Silva e de Menezes...🇧🇷 Was thinking of him was I wrote that post, that was almost 15 years ago, I was critical of the police at the time but it was shortly after the 7/7 attacks, this was far more justifiable than that incident, the guy had already stabbed people and was probably threatening to trigger his suicide vest, the police have no way of knowing if its fake or not and have to make a split second decision, easy to criticise after the fact sitting comfortably in your house.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2019 11:24:44 GMT
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Post by followyoudown on Nov 30, 2019 11:30:51 GMT
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Post by followyoudown on Nov 30, 2019 11:35:31 GMT
Have you ever heard of Jean Charles da Silva e de Menezes...🇧🇷 Was thinking of him was I wrote that post, that was almost 15 years ago, I was critical of the police at the time but it was shortly after the 7/7 attacks, this was far more justifiable than that incident, the guy had already stabbed people and was probably threatening to trigger his suicide vest, the police have no way of knowing if its fake or not and have to make a split second decision, easy to criticise after the fact sitting comfortably in your house. I dont think you can criticise the officers who carried out the De Menzes shooting all the information they were given was that he was one of the failed suicide bombers and they thought he was going to try again, the faults were with the wrong identification and information being passed to the armed police, I believe the officer in charge of the operation is now Chief Constable of the Met...
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Post by crapslinger on Nov 30, 2019 11:36:55 GMT
Unfortunately nothing can or will be done because of the bleeding heart brigade. There’s probably not much that can be done now, the toothpaste is out of the tube, our foreign policy coupled with domestic immigration policy has left us a sitting duck for this type of thing, whoever thought mixing so many religions and cultures altogether on a little island was a good idea ? Bliar and his wife ?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2019 11:37:02 GMT
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Post by crapslinger on Nov 30, 2019 11:41:03 GMT
Was thinking of him was I wrote that post, that was almost 15 years ago, I was critical of the police at the time but it was shortly after the 7/7 attacks, this was far more justifiable than that incident, the guy had already stabbed people and was probably threatening to trigger his suicide vest, the police have no way of knowing if its fake or not and have to make a split second decision, easy to criticise after the fact sitting comfortably in your house. I dont think you can criticise the officers who carried out the De Menzes shooting all the information they were given was that he was one of the failed suicide bombers and they thought he was going to try again, the faults were with the wrong identification and information being passed to the armed police, I believe the officer in charge of the operation is now Chief Constable of the Met... De Menzes would probably still be alive if he wasn't in this country illegally !
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Post by followyoudown on Nov 30, 2019 11:41:56 GMT
So John does not look at leaflets, Jeremy does not look at murals, Burgon cant remember saying something that wasnt his view and denied saying it until a video was found, I am seeing a trend here they seem too unlucky to be in government.
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Post by thevoid on Nov 30, 2019 11:42:08 GMT
Momentum Airways made me laugh though. How would that work, could I buy an Economy ticket but identify as Business Class? Bet they wouldn't fly to Israel 😊 It’s these people without a grasp on the real world who are dragging this country down. Did you see her tweet asking for recommendations of an Indian restaurant not owned by Indians because she is upset with India’s dispute with Pakistan Fucking hell this is the future of our country. A person who says only binary people can act in transgender roles Yep a fucking shitehawk Isn't an Indian restaurant not owned by Indians cultural appropriation? 2019, the year of confusion 😎
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Post by stillgame4it on Nov 30, 2019 11:43:15 GMT
According to a tweet....... Usman Khan was convicted of plotting to blow up the Stock Exchange. Five of his convicted accomplices are also now on parole. Mo Chowdhury - RELEASED Shah Rahman - RELEASED Gurukanth Desai - RELEASED Omar Latif - RELEASED Nazam Hussain - Release 2020 Mohibur Rahman - RELEASED pbs.twimg.com/media/EKm5qvjWsAA1Bzb?format=jpg&name=small5 ropes and a good Oak tree should do it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2019 11:44:21 GMT
So John does not look at leaflets, Jeremy does not look at murals, Burgon cant remember saying something that wasnt his view and denied saying it until a video was found, I am seeing a trend here they seem too unlucky to be in government. Funny Boris does the same. Denies articles he actually wrote in the newspapers. Believe what you want.
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Post by followyoudown on Nov 30, 2019 11:45:50 GMT
I dont think you can criticise the officers who carried out the De Menzes shooting all the information they were given was that he was one of the failed suicide bombers and they thought he was going to try again, the faults were with the wrong identification and information being passed to the armed police, I believe the officer in charge of the operation is now Chief Constable of the Met... De Menzes would probably still be alive if he wasn't in this country illegally ! Like him jumping the barriers its an urban myth he was here illegally as he entered from france via republic of ireland he was here legally.
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Post by bathstoke on Nov 30, 2019 11:48:21 GMT
Have you ever heard of Jean Charles da Silva e de Menezes...🇧🇷 Was thinking of him was I wrote that post, that was almost 15 years ago, I was critical of the police at the time but it was shortly after the 7/7 attacks, this was far more justifiable than that incident, the guy had already stabbed people and was probably threatening to trigger his suicide vest, the police have no way of knowing if its fake or not and have to make a split second decision, easy to criticise after the fact sitting comfortably in your house.
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Post by followyoudown on Nov 30, 2019 11:49:42 GMT
So John does not look at leaflets, Jeremy does not look at murals, Burgon cant remember saying something that wasnt his view and denied saying it until a video was found, I am seeing a trend here they seem too unlucky to be in government. Funny Boris does the same. Denies articles he actually wrote in the newspapers. Believe what you want. Thats an essex type lie Boris has never denied any of the articles he wrote how could he, he has said there are 20+ years ago and taken out of context but has never said he didnt write them. I am enjoying the hokey cokey of what people did 20 odd years ago as not being relevant when its corbyn and chums being matey with actual murderers and terrorists but an outrage when boris is found to have made some cockish comments.
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Post by bathstoke on Nov 30, 2019 11:50:31 GMT
Have you ever heard of Jean Charles da Silva e de Menezes...🇧🇷 Having to cite an incident from 14 years ago suggests that the Police are not trigger happy. Cressida Dick Was the officer in charge that day & they promoted her...
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Nov 30, 2019 11:54:59 GMT
Having to cite an incident from 14 years ago suggests that the Police are not trigger happy. Cressida Dick Was the officer in charge that day & they promoted her... What's that got to do with anything? You are suggesting that the police are trigger happy because they killed someone 14 years ago.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2019 11:56:54 GMT
Funny Boris does the same. Denies articles he actually wrote in the newspapers. Believe what you want. Thats an essex type lie Boris has never denied any of the articles he wrote how could he, he has said there are 20+ years ago and taken out of context but has never said he didnt write them. I am enjoying the hokey cokey of what people did 20 odd years ago as not being relevant when its corbyn and chums being matey with actual murderers and terrorists but an outrage when boris is found to have made some cockish comments. Well go read the articles because that’s bollicks and it’s exactly what they say. Funny that you mention matey with terrorists and murderers perhaps you could suggest that the Tories stop selling arms to Saudia Arabia who are known to fund ISIS and waging war on Yemen. Maybe have a word and mention that if they really needed to send British extremists out to fight in Libya it probably wasn’t the best idea to then let them back so they could blow up kids in Manchester? www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/voices/manchester-bomber-salman-abedi-concert-british-government-libya-isis-a8369506.html%3famp“But no sooner had Britain joined the war against Gaddafi than these suspected terrorists became useful allies. Their control-orders were lifted, their passports returned and they were told that the British government had no problem with them going to Libya to fight against Gaddafi. In place of past restrictions, they were allowed to pass to and fro at British airports”
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Nov 30, 2019 12:00:41 GMT
As an aside while I was in the Police I did not do firearms training but did train to be alongside someone who was firearms trained. I don't know the situation now but, as with dog handlers, they always had to have a " buddy" because their hands, obviously, were tied up with the weapon/dog. It was made clear that to draw and use a firearm was very much an individual decision which they would have to fully justify ( they may also have to justify why they did not use a weapon when circumstances said that they should have)....the decision has obviously got to be made in extreme life threatening circumstances and has often to be taken literally in a split second taking into account the circumstances and their training. What I don't understand is this reference to " shoot to kill" because the officers said to me that the only time that they could/should draw a weapon is if they intend to kill a person ( in a high tense situation).............( lengthy, stand off )warnings, aiming for a part of the body that may only inflict a wound were, I was told, only for TV dramas..... one particular well respected colleague said that it was difficult enough just to hit the target without endangering others, which he said was the centre of the body. So I don't really get " shoot to kill"....perhaps someone who knows more about it and firearms than me could enlighten me. In the early 1980's I think people would have been surprised at how many police were actually on patrol in Staffordshire who were armed, but obviously rarely if ever used...I can recall clearly an incident in Waterloo road and others where several were deployed but of course it did not reach the media
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Post by franklin66 on Nov 30, 2019 12:06:24 GMT
Have you ever heard of Jean Charles da Silva e de Menezes...🇧🇷 Was thinking of him was I wrote that post, that was almost 15 years ago, I was critical of the police at the time but it was shortly after the 7/7 attacks, this was far more justifiable than that incident, the guy had already stabbed people and was probably threatening to trigger his suicide vest, the police have no way of knowing if its fake or not and have to make a split second decision, easy to criticise after the fact sitting comfortably in your house. 100% agree these people who pick have never been in a situation where they have to make decision like that and I doubt they have the courage to step up and protect. To stand and confront that man was as courageous an act as can be, those members of the public are extraordinary and rightly will be recognised. The cops should be too and I congratulate them all and they have my total admiration.
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Post by crapslinger on Nov 30, 2019 12:08:03 GMT
Thats an essex type lie Boris has never denied any of the articles he wrote how could he, he has said there are 20+ years ago and taken out of context but has never said he didnt write them. I am enjoying the hokey cokey of what people did 20 odd years ago as not being relevant when its corbyn and chums being matey with actual murderers and terrorists but an outrage when boris is found to have made some cockish comments. Well go read the articles because that’s bollicks and it’s exactly what they say. Funny that you mention matey with terrorists and murderers perhaps you could suggest that the Tories stop selling arms to Saudia Arabia who are known to fund ISIS and waging war on Yemen. Maybe have a word and mention that if they really needed to send British extremists out to fight in Libya it probably wasn’t the best idea to then let them back so they could blow up kids in Manchester? www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/voices/manchester-bomber-salman-abedi-concert-british-government-libya-isis-a8369506.html%3famp“But no sooner had Britain joined the war against Gaddafi than these suspected terrorists became useful allies. Their control-orders were lifted, their passports returned and they were told that the British government had no problem with them going to Libya to fight against Gaddafi. In place of past restrictions, they were allowed to pass to and fro at British airports” No confirmed terrorist or terrorist sympathiser should ever be let back into our country when they leave it simple as, we have an enemy within many born in the UK, most are known to our authorities maybe we need to keep them altogether so that we can monitor them safely, letting them roam freely around is not working the UK suffers from more terrorist threats than any other country in the EU I wonder why that is.
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