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Woods
Nov 26, 2019 23:11:33 GMT
Post by cheadlestokie on Nov 26, 2019 23:11:33 GMT
You see I think Badou is too erratic to play the defensive midfielder He can be but he can tackle and is strong. Woods is weak as piss and usually messes even the cynical/tactical fouls up. At the present time, Badou is the only player we have who can play the DM role. Ideally I think he’s a box to boxer but out of them all he’s easily the best defender of them and offers the best protection to the defence. And for all the good things Woods did against Barnsley and Wigan, he didn’t offer great protection to the back 4 and that will get exploited. I would rather have two dm’s in front of the back four but then we would need more pace up front than we have at the moment Saturday I think we will revert to Clucas playing the left side of the middle three and Maclean left of the front three. It will give us better balance
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 26, 2019 23:13:58 GMT
He can be but he can tackle and is strong. Woods is weak as piss and usually messes even the cynical/tactical fouls up. At the present time, Badou is the only player we have who can play the DM role. Ideally I think he’s a box to boxer but out of them all he’s easily the best defender of them and offers the best protection to the defence. And for all the good things Woods did against Barnsley and Wigan, he didn’t offer great protection to the back 4 and that will get exploited. I would rather have two dm’s in front of the back four but then we would need more pace up front than we have at the moment Saturday I think we will revert to Clucas playing the left side of the middle three and Maclean left of the front three. It will give us better balance I’d have Badou Woods Clucas if we go 433. I don’t think that’s too bad at all and offers Woods a safety net. Against the better sides, I’d play Etebo.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2019 23:20:23 GMT
Playing him is daft. Hes crap. As is ince He’s not though is he? He’s good on the ball but needs to play further up. Playing him as the last midfielder is just daft though. He scares me to death when we have to defend against a counter-attack. And more so when he thinks he's a little bit better than he is and fucks about trying to play out of trouble. His passing is mint. Had a few great set-pieces at the weekend but a DM he is not.
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Woods
Nov 26, 2019 23:22:04 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 26, 2019 23:22:04 GMT
He’s not though is he? He’s good on the ball but needs to play further up. Playing him as the last midfielder is just daft though. He scares me to death when we have to defend against a counter-attack. And more so when he thinks he's a little bit better than he is and fucks about trying to play out of trouble. His passing is mint. Had a few great set-pieces at the weekend but a DM he is not. Yeah I can’t argue with that. I’m surprised he started there tonight after the last two games because of exactly what you say.
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Woods
Nov 27, 2019 0:47:47 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2019 0:47:47 GMT
I’m slowly coming to the conclusion that he’s just not very good.....
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Nov 27, 2019 0:54:58 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 27, 2019 0:54:58 GMT
I’m slowly coming to the conclusion that he’s just not very good..... But he is. But Stevie Wonder can see he’s not a DM yet our manager has played him there.
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Nov 27, 2019 0:59:57 GMT
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Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 27, 2019 0:59:57 GMT
I’m slowly coming to the conclusion that he’s just not very good..... But he is. But Stevie Wonder can see he’s not a DM yet our manager has played him there. Hes a nothing player. Same as your other favourites, Edward's and ince
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 27, 2019 1:02:11 GMT
But he is. But Stevie Wonder can see he’s not a DM yet our manager has played him there. Hes a nothing player. Same as your other favourites, Edward's and ince Yawn. He’s a good footballer who uses the ball well. Having him as the defensive shield isn’t a good use of his talents. Heck he can’t do it and it’s plain to see much like how shite your mate is in the nets!
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Woods
Nov 27, 2019 1:08:54 GMT
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Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 27, 2019 1:08:54 GMT
Hes a nothing player. Same as your other favourites, Edward's and ince Yawn. He’s a good footballer who uses the ball well. Having him as the defensive shield isn’t a good use of his talents. Heck he can’t do it and it’s plain to see much like how shite your mate is in the nets! Hes weak as piss and more one footed than imbula. Hes not a defensive midfielder. Hes a complete non entity midfielder. He hasn't a creative bone in his body.
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Nov 27, 2019 1:14:18 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 27, 2019 1:14:18 GMT
Yawn. He’s a good footballer who uses the ball well. Having him as the defensive shield isn’t a good use of his talents. Heck he can’t do it and it’s plain to see much like how shite your mate is in the nets! Hes weak as piss and more one footed than imbula. Hes not a defensive midfielder. Hes a complete non entity midfielder. He hasn't a creative bone in his body. He is weak as piss agreed but you can negate that easily if used right. He’s not a defensive midfielder but the one person that counts seems to think he is. Which worries me as things stand.
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Woods
Nov 27, 2019 1:19:34 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2019 1:19:34 GMT
I’m slowly coming to the conclusion that he’s just not very good..... But he is. But Stevie Wonder can see he’s not a DM yet our manager has played him there. So what is he? Cause I don’t see it.....
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Nov 27, 2019 1:26:12 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 27, 2019 1:26:12 GMT
But he is. But Stevie Wonder can see he’s not a DM yet our manager has played him there. So what is he? Cause I don’t see it..... He’s a player who I think would look wonderful in a really good side tbh or Fulham. They passed it lovely at our place, one of the best passing sides we’ve seen at the Brit for some time. Keep ball, a metronome. In our side he needs to be alongside a DM and allowed to play with people ahead of him that actually move. Have we got players for to play alongside a DM? Etebo can be better and probably is most of the time. Allen isn’t. He should never play as the DM though. I can see why people don’t like him. He’s not a very Stoke friendly footballer but he certainly has his uses.
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Woods
Nov 27, 2019 1:29:18 GMT
Post by boskampsflaps on Nov 27, 2019 1:29:18 GMT
He should never have been used as a DM he's messed up for two goals in two games in a row now, I don't think there's a place for him in the side tbh, I don't see what he actually adds to the team.
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Nov 27, 2019 1:37:02 GMT
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Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 27, 2019 1:37:02 GMT
So what is he? Cause I don’t see it..... He’s a player who I think would look wonderful in a really good side tbh or Fulham. They passed it lovely at our place, one of the best passing sides we’ve seen at the Brit for some time. Keep ball, a metronome. In our side he needs to be alongside a DM and allowed to play with people ahead of him that actually move. Have we got players for to play alongside a DM? Etebo can be better and probably is most of the time. Allen isn’t. He should never play as the DM though. I can see why people don’t like him. He’s not a very Stoke friendly footballer but he certainly has his uses. Fulham? Same Fulham that had 70% odd possession but couldn't muster a shot on target? Bit like our stats tonight? That fulham? He'd weaken any team he played for at this level because he isnt very good. Accept it and move on.
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Nov 27, 2019 1:37:45 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2019 1:37:45 GMT
So what is he? Cause I don’t see it..... He’s a player who I think would look wonderful in a really good side tbh or Fulham. They passed it lovely at our place, one of the best passing sides we’ve seen at the Brit for some time. Keep ball, a metronome. In our side he needs to be alongside a DM and allowed to play with people ahead of him that actually move. Have we got players for to play alongside a DM? Etebo can be better and probably is most of the time. Allen isn’t. He should never play as the DM though. I can see why people don’t like him. He’s not a very Stoke friendly footballer but he certainly has his uses. He doesn’t keep the ball that well though, he constantly takes a split second too long in possession as well.... I don’t know what “he’s not a very Stoke friendly footballer” means?
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Woods
Nov 27, 2019 1:53:47 GMT
Post by owdestokie2 on Nov 27, 2019 1:53:47 GMT
So what is he? Cause I don’t see it..... He’s a player who I think would look wonderful in a really good side tbh or Fulham. They passed it lovely at our place, one of the best passing sides we’ve seen at the Brit for some time. Keep ball, a metronome. In our side he needs to be alongside a DM and allowed to play with people ahead of him that actually move. Have we got players for to play alongside a DM? Etebo can be better and probably is most of the time. Allen isn’t. He should never play as the DM though. I can see why people don’t like him. He’s not a very Stoke friendly footballer but he certainly has his uses. So. We build a team and style of play around Woods
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Post by werrington on Nov 27, 2019 6:49:53 GMT
I thought Woods and Ndiaye were excellent despite the defeat
Footballers they hate em on here ......more engines please, up and down up and down, huff and puff huff and puff
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Nov 27, 2019 7:04:57 GMT
The midfield dominated, can't really criticize them too much. The problem was the front three
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2019 7:35:49 GMT
The midfield dominated, can't really criticize them too much. The problem was the front three Gregory was absolutely shite, the other 2 weren’t far behind.....
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Nov 27, 2019 7:44:10 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 27, 2019 7:44:10 GMT
He’s a player who I think would look wonderful in a really good side tbh or Fulham. They passed it lovely at our place, one of the best passing sides we’ve seen at the Brit for some time. Keep ball, a metronome. In our side he needs to be alongside a DM and allowed to play with people ahead of him that actually move. Have we got players for to play alongside a DM? Etebo can be better and probably is most of the time. Allen isn’t. He should never play as the DM though. I can see why people don’t like him. He’s not a very Stoke friendly footballer but he certainly has his uses. So. We build a team and style of play around Woods Ideally that’s exactly what I’d do yes.
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Nov 27, 2019 7:45:03 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 27, 2019 7:45:03 GMT
I thought Woods and Ndiaye were excellent despite the defeat Footballers they hate em on here ......more engines please, up and down up and down, huff and puff huff and puff Nah I just want someone who can defend by him and to act as a safety net. He can’t do the job the manager is asking of him at the moment but that’s not his fault.
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Nov 27, 2019 7:45:50 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2019 7:45:50 GMT
So. We build a team and style of play around Woods Ideally that’s exactly what I’d do yes. You’d build a team around Ryan Woods? Wow......
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 27, 2019 7:46:21 GMT
He’s a player who I think would look wonderful in a really good side tbh or Fulham. They passed it lovely at our place, one of the best passing sides we’ve seen at the Brit for some time. Keep ball, a metronome. In our side he needs to be alongside a DM and allowed to play with people ahead of him that actually move. Have we got players for to play alongside a DM? Etebo can be better and probably is most of the time. Allen isn’t. He should never play as the DM though. I can see why people don’t like him. He’s not a very Stoke friendly footballer but he certainly has his uses. Fulham? Same Fulham that had 70% odd possession but couldn't muster a shot on target? Bit like our stats tonight? That fulham? He'd weaken any team he played for at this level because he isnt very good. Accept it and move on. Fulham’s passing was excellent though. And they’re a much better team than we are in general. Their style is something to be aimed for not scorned at.
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Nov 27, 2019 7:46:53 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 27, 2019 7:46:53 GMT
Ideally that’s exactly what I’d do yes. You’d build a team around Ryan Woods? Wow...... I know building a team around an excellent footballer. Shocking.
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Woods
Nov 27, 2019 7:51:47 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2019 7:51:47 GMT
You’d build a team around Ryan Woods? Wow...... I know building a team around an excellent footballer. Shocking. Excellent footballer, fucking ada. He’s a nothing footballer, no goal threat, no assists, not good defensively, runs through treacle. You call him a “metronome”. He is but he’s 20 BPM out that’s the problem. Slow in thought, as well as having no actual pace....
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Woods
Nov 27, 2019 7:53:23 GMT
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Nov 27, 2019 7:53:23 GMT
Woods is very telling hed be a very good intentional footballer with some do the smaller nations , not so Much physicality and keeps the ball moving facf is he ain’t a championship defensive midfielder but how would our manager know that ?
For those who think lessons learned I’d say he is odds on to start Saturday in the Same Position and then be outmuscled by Dack moving back into that space .
Bookmark that one
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 27, 2019 7:55:07 GMT
I think Woods, like a few of our players, could be a real asset if used properly. He's a deep lying playmaker who needs some protection alongside him. Play him and Badou with Clucas or Etebo ahead of him and I think we'd have a decent balance.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2019 8:12:37 GMT
I know building a team around an excellent footballer. Shocking. Excellent footballer, fucking ada. He’s a nothing footballer, no goal threat, no assists, not good defensively, runs through treacle. You call him a “metronome”. He is but he’s 20 BPM out that’s the problem. Slow in thought, as well as having no actual pace.... So you play him alongside a footballer who has all the attributes he doesn't have. Him and Badou would be excellent together with Powell behind Gregory/Diouf or Clucas as the spare man in a three. Powell gives you the flexibility to push him further forward or swap to a front two with minimal disruption and Clucas gives you a genuine outlet from midfield. Playing Woods as a DM with Allen just infront is asking for trouble. Woods should be in place of Allen, ironically, doing the role that Allen used to be famed for at Swansea.
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Woods
Nov 27, 2019 9:02:41 GMT
Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2019 9:02:41 GMT
Excellent footballer, fucking ada. He’s a nothing footballer, no goal threat, no assists, not good defensively, runs through treacle. You call him a “metronome”. He is but he’s 20 BPM out that’s the problem. Slow in thought, as well as having no actual pace.... So you play him alongside a footballer who has all the attributes he doesn't have. Him and Badou would be excellent together with Powell behind Gregory/Diouf or Clucas as the spare man in a three. Powell gives you the flexibility to push him further forward or swap to a front two with minimal disruption and Clucas gives you a genuine outlet from midfield. What are these attributes he has?
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Woods
Nov 27, 2019 9:09:23 GMT
Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2019 9:09:23 GMT
I like him but he’s shown in the two games under MON that he can’t play as the deepest man in midfield. Really don’t get how MON has missed it. Why he has never managed in this country let alone this league the one above or the two below . By his own admission he was saying at Barnsley when will it slow down after 20 mins . He is on a massive learning curve and journey man Neil Harris just taught him a painful lesson in shape purpose and organisation performance wise he was a minute away from 1 point from Wigan and Cardiff The dead cat bounce is well underway If we put out Cardiff's performance at home against a team in the relegation zone, win or not, there'd be a shit load of criticism from the fans. As for "one minute away from 1 point from Wigan and Cardiff" - seriously fuck off on that one! Again, so much criticism of our lack of late goals to change the result. We do - and you're using that against him. Dead cat bounce...after his first defeat, away. As for testing different players in different roles - yeh probably. It's his third game. Most managers continue to try new things with players - let alone a new manager trying to find the best formation and player to fit. But - no, that's coz he's never managed in this country.
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