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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 17, 2020 21:27:55 GMT
MON purring about the youngsters...
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 17, 2020 21:30:12 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2020 21:36:33 GMT
I like the fact he's throwing the gauntlet to the youngsters. I have no doubt he will integrate as many as he can this season and a solid start will only help with that. He doesn't get carried away win, lose or draw, calmness personified.....
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 17, 2020 21:41:41 GMT
I like the fact he's throwing the gauntlet to the youngsters. I have no doubt he will integrate as many as he can this season and a solid start will only help with that. He doesn't get carried away win, lose or draw, calmness personified..... Yeah, very even-keeled. He seems to have a very warm word for Oakley-Boothe in the last few interviews too.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 17, 2020 21:44:30 GMT
I like the fact he's throwing the gauntlet to the youngsters. I have no doubt he will integrate as many as he can this season and a solid start will only help with that. He doesn't get carried away win, lose or draw, calmness personified..... Yeah, very even-keeled. He seems to have a very warm word for Oakley-Boothe in the last few interviews too. It was nice to see him not be bullied today. That midfield on paper looked weak as piss but they weren’t overwhelmed. They weren’t in it in the first half but second half him and Tymon were really good. They just look like good footballers who want to play and pass the ball around. It’s such a refreshing change to watch that.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 17, 2020 22:14:10 GMT
Yeah, very even-keeled. He seems to have a very warm word for Oakley-Boothe in the last few interviews too. It was nice to see him not be bullied today. That midfield on paper looked weak as piss but they weren’t overwhelmed. They weren’t in it in the first half but second half him and Tymon were really good. They just look like good footballers who want to play and pass the ball around. It’s such a refreshing change to watch that. Seems the big difference with the younger lads is O’Neill doesn’t suffer fools and they realise they need to work hard to get into the squad and it looks like they’re getting it. In hindsight I’d say it was a good idea by the manager not to throw them into the fire during a relegation fight and starting with a clean slate this season. Still very early days of course but credit has to go to the manager and also the younger squad players for stepping up and working hard to make competiton for places so competitive. It can only be good for the club. Onwards and upwards👍🏻
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 17, 2020 22:22:48 GMT
It was nice to see him not be bullied today. That midfield on paper looked weak as piss but they weren’t overwhelmed. They weren’t in it in the first half but second half him and Tymon were really good. They just look like good footballers who want to play and pass the ball around. It’s such a refreshing change to watch that. Seems the big difference with the younger lads is O’Neill doesn’t suffer fools and they realise they need to work hard to get into the squad and it looks like they’re getting it. In hindsight I’d say it was a good idea by the manager not to throw them into the fire during a relegation fight and starting with a clean slate this season. Still very early days of course but credit has to go to the manager and also the younger squad players for stepping up and working hard to make competiton for places so competitive. It can only be good for the club. Onwards and upwards👍🏻 I will never disagree with that sorry. The experienced ones were the fuckers that got us there and they should have been binned in the main. These young players are the real deal and need to be playing week in, week out. Harder for the midfield ones but Souttar and Collins are better than their elder counterparts already. It’s why I read his comments before the game as him setting them up for a fail. But for me he proved him and most of you wrong. And they need to keep doing it. My belief in Collins, Souttar, Edwards, Sorensen, Verlinden and Campbell is massive and these are the players that can take us places. He’s got to have more faith in them. Also I think that goes for the football he produces in general too. He and his players are a little bit better than he thinks imo. Play football. The second half tonight was a lovely balance between the pragmatic and football. You had measured long passes to Fletchers feet, lovely channel balls for Brown and the back 3 and central midfielders being able to keep it and stay cool. That is what I want to watch.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 17, 2020 22:25:45 GMT
Seems the big difference with the younger lads is O’Neill doesn’t suffer fools and they realise they need to work hard to get into the squad and it looks like they’re getting it. In hindsight I’d say it was a good idea by the manager not to throw them into the fire during a relegation fight and starting with a clean slate this season. Still very early days of course but credit has to go to the manager and also the younger squad players for stepping up and working hard to make competiton for places so competitive. It can only be good for the club. Onwards and upwards👍🏻 I will never disagree with that sorry. The experienced ones were the fuckers that got us there and they should have been binned in the main. These young players are the real deal and need to be playing week in, week out. Harder for the midfield ones but Souttar and Collins are better than their elder counterparts already. It’s why I read his comments before the game as him setting them up for a fail. But for me he proved him and most of you wrong. And they need to keep doing it. My belief in Collins, Souttar, Edwards, Sorensen, Verlinden and Campbell is massive and these are the players that can take us places. He’s got to have more faith in them. Also I think that goes for the football he produces in general too. He and his players are a little bit better than he thinks imo. Play football. The second half tonight was a lovely balance between the pragmatic and football. You had measured long passes to Fletchers feet, lovely channel balls for Brown and the back 3 and central midfielders being able to keep it and stay cool. That is what I want to watch. What does your first line mean? It doesn’t make sense
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 17, 2020 22:27:12 GMT
I will never disagree with that sorry. The experienced ones were the fuckers that got us there and they should have been binned in the main. These young players are the real deal and need to be playing week in, week out. Harder for the midfield ones but Souttar and Collins are better than their elder counterparts already. It’s why I read his comments before the game as him setting them up for a fail. But for me he proved him and most of you wrong. And they need to keep doing it. My belief in Collins, Souttar, Edwards, Sorensen, Verlinden and Campbell is massive and these are the players that can take us places. He’s got to have more faith in them. Also I think that goes for the football he produces in general too. He and his players are a little bit better than he thinks imo. Play football. The second half tonight was a lovely balance between the pragmatic and football. You had measured long passes to Fletchers feet, lovely channel balls for Brown and the back 3 and central midfielders being able to keep it and stay cool. That is what I want to watch. What does your first line mean? It doesn’t make sense I missed “not” out 🤦♂️
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 17, 2020 22:29:19 GMT
What does your first line mean? It doesn’t make sense I missed “not” out 🤦♂️ 🤣 Where does the “not” go?🤷🏻♂️
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Post by gawa on Sept 17, 2020 22:30:52 GMT
I will never disagree with that sorry. The experienced ones were the fuckers that got us there and they should have been binned in the main. These young players are the real deal and need to be playing week in, week out. Harder for the midfield ones but Souttar and Collins are better than their elder counterparts already. It’s why I read his comments before the game as him setting them up for a fail. But for me he proved him and most of you wrong. And they need to keep doing it. My belief in Collins, Souttar, Edwards, Sorensen, Verlinden and Campbell is massive and these are the players that can take us places. He’s got to have more faith in them. Also I think that goes for the football he produces in general too. He and his players are a little bit better than he thinks imo. Play football. The second half tonight was a lovely balance between the pragmatic and football. You had measured long passes to Fletchers feet, lovely channel balls for Brown and the back 3 and central midfielders being able to keep it and stay cool. That is what I want to watch. What does your first line mean? It doesn’t make sense I think he's saying that he disagrees with your comment in regards to not throwing the young players into a relegation battle and instead playing them this season with a clean slate. While you can say it was the older players which got the team into a relegation battle, it must be remembered that if judged solely on Michael O'Neil tenure those players placed 7th, so I think the criticism is slightly unfair and unjust.
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Post by spiderpuss on Sept 17, 2020 22:32:09 GMT
The most exciting SCFC manager since Tony Waddington. It's as simple as that.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 17, 2020 22:34:38 GMT
What does your first line mean? It doesn’t make sense I think he's saying that he disagrees with your comment in regards to not throwing the young players into a relegation battle and instead playing them this season with a clean slate. While you can say it was the older players which got the team into a relegation battle, it must be remembered that if judged solely on Michael O'Neil tenure those players placed 7th, so I think the criticism is slightly unfair and unjust. Sparked by one of the young players imo in Campbell. The defence looked as shit as it ever did on the whole under MON.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 17, 2020 22:36:23 GMT
I think he's saying that he disagrees with your comment in regards to not throwing the young players into a relegation battle and instead playing them this season with a clean slate. While you can say it was the older players which got the team into a relegation battle, it must be remembered that if judged solely on Michael O'Neil tenure those players placed 7th, so I think the criticism is slightly unfair and unjust. Sparked by one of the young players imo in Campbell. The defence looked as shit as it ever did on the whole under MON. Is that what you meant? Sorry I couldn’t work out the first line as it seemed to contradict the rest of it
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 17, 2020 22:36:59 GMT
Sparked by one of the young players imo in Campbell. The defence looked as shit as it ever did on the whole under MON. Is that what you meant? Sorry I couldn’t work out the first line as it seemed to contradict the rest of it Yes. 😂
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 17, 2020 22:39:16 GMT
Is that what you meant? Sorry I couldn’t work out the first line as it seemed to contradict the rest of it Yes. 😂 Thought so. We shall agree to disagree then. I believe he did the right thing then and is doing the right thing now
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 17, 2020 22:43:09 GMT
Thought so. We shall agree to disagree then. I believe he did the right thing then and is doing the right thing now Indeed. Just seems foolishly negative to me. He threw Campbell in and that changed how we play. The defence didn’t change until he changed the whole damn system to make up for the deficiencies. That seems a bit shit to me. Especially when you have two fantastically talented centre halves at your disposal.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 17, 2020 22:44:43 GMT
Thought so. We shall agree to disagree then. I believe he did the right thing then and is doing the right thing now Indeed. Just seems foolishly negative to me. He threw Campbell in and that changed how we play. The defence didn’t change until he changed the whole damn system to make up for the deficiencies. That seems a bit shit to me. Especially when you have two fantastically talented centre halves at your disposal. Any danger of you giving credit to the manager?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 17, 2020 22:47:16 GMT
Indeed. Just seems foolishly negative to me. He threw Campbell in and that changed how we play. The defence didn’t change until he changed the whole damn system to make up for the deficiencies. That seems a bit shit to me. Especially when you have two fantastically talented centre halves at your disposal. Any danger of you giving credit to the manager? Don’t get arsey because I disagree with you 😂 I’ve given him loads of credit. I don’t think any is warranted here though. Indeed he will still pick the same old at the weekend and that will be wrong.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 17, 2020 22:52:20 GMT
Any danger of you giving credit to the manager? Don’t get arsey because I disagree with you 😂 I’ve given him loads of credit. I don’t think any is warranted here though. Indeed he will still pick the same old at the weekend and that will be wrong. I aren’t being arsey with you mate I just wish you’d have a bit of positivity. I get you will never like certain players of manager but we’ve come a fair way since this time last year. Hopefully he’s been given some food for thought tonight. Who’s to say he wasn’t happy with some performances last weekend and wants to freshen up this weekend, I don’t believe he has favourites.
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Post by ethers26 on Sept 17, 2020 22:58:40 GMT
I think he's saying that he disagrees with your comment in regards to not throwing the young players into a relegation battle and instead playing them this season with a clean slate. While you can say it was the older players which got the team into a relegation battle, it must be remembered that if judged solely on Michael O'Neil tenure those players placed 7th, so I think the criticism is slightly unfair and unjust. Sparked by one of the young players imo in Campbell. The defence looked as shit as it ever did on the whole under MON. Average of 1.8 conceded under Nath 1.3 under MON
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 17, 2020 22:58:58 GMT
Don’t get arsey because I disagree with you 😂 I’ve given him loads of credit. I don’t think any is warranted here though. Indeed he will still pick the same old at the weekend and that will be wrong. I aren’t being arsey with you mate I just wish you’d have a bit of positivity. I get you will never like certain players of manager but we’ve come a fair way since this time last year. Hopefully he’s been given some food for thought tonight. Who’s to say he wasn’t happy with some performances last weekend and wants to freshen up this weekend, I don’t believe he has favourites. I’ve got loads of positivity, it mainly revolves around the younger players and giving them a chance though. I honestly think it takes us to another level. We have and I haven’t said any different but then for the last 2/3 years I’ve always said the players are fine and the manager was the issue and people didn’t really believe me. MON has shown that so for me he’s just doing the job that should have been happening anyway. The shitehawkness of these players since the PL relegation season has been massively overstated imo and has been done because it makes more sense than systematic failure. It’s like a conspiracy theory almost. So that’s where I’m coming from. Keeping us up last season was a miracle but we should have never ever ever ever ever been in that position in the firs place.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 17, 2020 22:59:56 GMT
Sparked by one of the young players imo in Campbell. The defence looked as shit as it ever did on the whole under MON. Average of 1.8 conceded under Nath 1.3 under MON That’s still pretty wank isn’t it?
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Post by ethers26 on Sept 17, 2020 23:01:55 GMT
Average of 1.8 conceded under Nath 1.3 under MON That’s still pretty wank isn’t it? Didn't look as shit as it ever did though..
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 17, 2020 23:07:47 GMT
That’s still pretty wank isn’t it? Didn't look as shit as it ever did though.. They still look shit though well until the new system to hide their deficiencies. Which I know people will say is clever. I would counter signing a CB that needs a whole system change to cover his useless arse is a bit shit.
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Post by bertiestan on Sept 17, 2020 23:07:56 GMT
Average of 1.8 conceded under Nath 1.3 under MON That’s still pretty wank isn’t it? Come on bayern your a absolutely clutching here mate
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 17, 2020 23:10:26 GMT
That’s still pretty wank isn’t it? Come on bayern your a absolutely clutching here mate I think the defence generally under MON have looked awful. 1.3 goals conceded is still way too many. Changing the system to protect said shit defenders speaks volumes. I don’t think it’s clutching at all. Indeed his actions re the 3 at back show he doesn’t overly trust them himself. Which makes signing one of them even bloody odder.
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Post by potterpaul on Sept 17, 2020 23:12:25 GMT
This is a very defining point for MON, this is where he can consolidate his well deserved popularity with fans so far or start splinter groups. Our last manager lost the plot completely by saying one thing and doing the complete opposite.
He asked and challenged the youngsters to force their way into the first team they have answered that challenge. I don't expect to see it right away obviously but regular game time in the league for promising candidates should be extremely close. I'm hoping I don't have to agree with Bayern using the word 'coward' in the not so distant future.
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Post by ethers26 on Sept 17, 2020 23:13:27 GMT
Come on bayern your a absolutely clutching here mate I think the defence generally under MON have looked awful. 1.3 goals conceded is still way too many. Changing the system to protect said shit defenders speaks volumes. I don’t think it’s clutching at all. Indeed his actions re the 3 at back show he doesn’t overly trust them himself. Which makes signing one of them even bloody odder. Okay okay, let's be fair. MON inherited a sack of shite and came in mid-season, so let's go off his average this season now he's finally got his feet under the table. 0.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 17, 2020 23:16:30 GMT
I think the defence generally under MON have looked awful. 1.3 goals conceded is still way too many. Changing the system to protect said shit defenders speaks volumes. I don’t think it’s clutching at all. Indeed his actions re the 3 at back show he doesn’t overly trust them himself. Which makes signing one of them even bloody odder. Okay okay, let's be fair. MON inherited a sack of shite and came in mid-season, so let's go off his average this season now he's finally got his feet under the table. 0. I’m being very fair. And that’s in a system that in 3 games has produced shite football for 2.5 of them. And is a system designed to protect the centre backs. We don’t have to do that.
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