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Post by SamB_SCFC on Jun 27, 2020 17:42:54 GMT
What's he said? I'll be honest, I can't be arsed to listen to it. Basically we were bullied early on, gave stupid free kicks away knowing what they would do, missed sitters and anxiety crept in he thought originally may have been from the crowd but knows now it so the players themselves. All absolutely correct. However, has he said anything about his own shortcomings today? The line up, formation, going back to McLean at left back that was proven to be an abject failure earlier this season?
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Post by robwahlmann on Jun 27, 2020 17:45:25 GMT
He is right though! I really wondered how it was possible to finish as badly as McClean and Vokes did today!
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jun 27, 2020 17:45:53 GMT
That's a dreadful interview. He's turned on the players and we all know how that ends. I'll be surprised if we win another game all season after that. Depends. I haven’t heard it but did he name players?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2020 17:52:42 GMT
That's a dreadful interview. He's turned on the players and we all know how that ends. I'll be surprised if we win another game all season after that. Depends. I haven’t heard it but did he name players? No, but he blamed the players as a group. Washed all responsibility by mentioning not being able to legislate for missed chances, told the players repeatedly what to expect from Boro and Warnock etc. Two weeks in a row now he's started the game with a poor lineup, system and tactics and now he's turning it round on the players. Not good for me.
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Post by neddy on Jun 27, 2020 17:52:55 GMT
Well we will see the quality of the man with what reaction he gets at Wigan? We may not win but hopefully we should see a reaction no matter what team he picks?
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jun 27, 2020 17:56:13 GMT
Depends. I haven’t heard it but did he name players? No, but he blamed the players as a group. Washed all responsibility by mentioning not being able to legislate for missed chances, told the players repeatedly what to expect from Boro and Warnock etc. Two weeks in a row now he's started the game with a poor lineup, system and tactics and now he's turning it round on the players. Not good for me. Agree the last two games have been baffling but I still think he’ll keep us up. Naming players is a cardinal sin and very hard to step back from that brink, blanket criticism for those tossers is fair enough for me. Would agree I’d like to see him acknowledge where he felt he got it wrong today
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Post by robwahlmann on Jun 27, 2020 17:59:43 GMT
Why pick Chester if you know what Boro will do? Collins or Lindsay would have been much better options against a direct team. Chester is useless in such circumstances! Please, don't sign him up permanently!!!!
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Post by tinofspam on Jun 27, 2020 18:01:42 GMT
That's a dreadful interview. He's turned on the players and we all know how that ends. I'll be surprised if we win another game all season after that. Really want to believe that that is sarcasm. He said ‘we’ many times, he knows he’s to blame too pal
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Post by Clayton Wood on Jun 27, 2020 18:03:44 GMT
He said we're ONLY 2 games in! Out of 9 that's like 10 games into a regular season with 5 under our belts.
The weather's been nice but this isn't the third week in August, buck your ideas up.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jun 27, 2020 18:03:45 GMT
I know most managers don't do it but would have liked a bit more humility from him today to be honest. Most of todays issues stemmed directly from his decisions.
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Post by BristolMick on Jun 27, 2020 18:07:49 GMT
He said we're ONLY 2 games in! Out of 9 that's like 10 games into a regular season with 5 under our belts. The weather's been nice but this isn't the third week in August, buck your ideas up. If we win on Tuesday, and that’s very possible with this Jekyll and Hyde shower then he will be brilliant again. BM
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Post by Clayton Wood on Jun 27, 2020 18:09:08 GMT
He said we're ONLY 2 games in! Out of 9 that's like 10 games into a regular season with 5 under our belts. The weather's been nice but this isn't the third week in August, buck your ideas up. If we win on Tuesday, and that’s very possible with this Jekyll and Hyde shower then he will be brilliant again. BM And if we don't...?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2020 18:14:22 GMT
He said we're ONLY 2 games in! Out of 9 that's like 10 games into a regular season with 5 under our belts. The weather's been nice but this isn't the third week in August, buck your ideas up. If we win on Tuesday, and that’s very possible with this Jekyll and Hyde shower then he will be brilliant again. BM He's getting deserved criticism for appalling management. If he picks himself up and starts getting results and performances he'll get the appropriate praise surely? What's the issue? He played four centre halves last week at Reading, hanging a youth player out to dry. If Pulis had have done that you wouldn't have been shy in coming forward to have a go so why does O'Neill get away with it? Ditto McClean at left back two games in a row for the last half an hour? The last manager was reamed for it yet nobody mentions it with O'Neill. It's ridiculous management that is costing us. We're running out of time and games.
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Post by BristolMick on Jun 27, 2020 18:15:29 GMT
If we win on Tuesday, and that’s very possible with this Jekyll and Hyde shower then he will be brilliant again. BM And if we don't...? I have faith in this manager more than I do the players of his predecessors. Next season will be a whole lot better and less nonsense whatever division we’re in. BM
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Post by BristolMick on Jun 27, 2020 18:18:35 GMT
If we win on Tuesday, and that’s very possible with this Jekyll and Hyde shower then he will be brilliant again. BM He's getting deserved criticism for appalling management. If he picks himself up and starts getting results and performances he'll get the appropriate praise surely? What's the issue? He played four centre halves last week at Reading, hanging a youth player out to dry. If Pulis had have done that you wouldn't have been shy in coming forward to have a go so why does O'Neill get away with it? Ditto McClean at left back two games in a row for the last half an hour? The last manager was reamed for it yet nobody mentions it with O'Neill. It's ridiculous management that is costing us. We're running out of time and games. A fair post mate, my point is that up until lockdown there was a lot more good than bad and we aren’t fighting relegation because of MON’s ineptness are we? BM
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Post by datguy on Jun 27, 2020 18:21:05 GMT
That's a dreadful interview. He's turned on the players and we all know how that ends.I'll be surprised if we win another game all season after that. Different manager, different player response. MO'N giving you a bollocking is much different to Nathan Jones blabbering on and blaming you. I think if I was in that dressing room I'd have a lot of respect for MO'N considering the recovery he's done so far and his previous managerial record. I'd sit up and listen.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2020 18:21:15 GMT
He's getting deserved criticism for appalling management. If he picks himself up and starts getting results and performances he'll get the appropriate praise surely? What's the issue? He played four centre halves last week at Reading, hanging a youth player out to dry. If Pulis had have done that you wouldn't have been shy in coming forward to have a go so why does O'Neill get away with it? Ditto McClean at left back two games in a row for the last half an hour? The last manager was reamed for it yet nobody mentions it with O'Neill. It's ridiculous management that is costing us. We're running out of time and games. A fair post mate, my point is that up until lockdown there was a lot more good than bad and we aren’t fighting relegation because of MON’s ineptness are we? BM Absolutely not. We are in this position for a multitude of reasons. MON has given us a punchers chance of staying up, so I'm well aware of how harsh I'm being right now, and I am. That's the world we live in though isn't it? He's been brought in to do a job. If he doesn't keep us up, regardless of where we were when he came in he's failed.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jun 27, 2020 18:23:57 GMT
A fair post mate, my point is that up until lockdown there was a lot more good than bad and we aren’t fighting relegation because of MON’s ineptness are we? BM Absolutely not. We are in this position for a multitude of reasons. MON has given us a punchers chance of staying up, so I'm well aware of how harsh I'm being right now, and I am. That's the world we live in though isn't it? He's been brought in to do a job. If he doesn't keep us up, regardless of where we were when he came in he's failed. I can't remember seeing you this pissed off ever and there's been plenty of chances to be.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Jun 27, 2020 18:32:09 GMT
I have faith in this manager more than I do the players of his predecessors. Next season will be a whole lot better and less nonsense whatever division we’re in. BM I quite like the guy to be honest. After Mad Nath anyone would have sat better. And a bit of me wonders if he isn't firing on all six after his Covid scare. He's not happy with the missed chances, who is? The line up and subs are down to him, but not mentioned. But to start the interview with we are only 2 games in pisses me off more than the rest of the things he said put together. Trundling out the cliched slow start to the season crap don't wash with a 9 game season. Next season....let's see where we are first.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jun 27, 2020 18:33:33 GMT
He's getting deserved criticism for appalling management. If he picks himself up and starts getting results and performances he'll get the appropriate praise surely? What's the issue? He played four centre halves last week at Reading, hanging a youth player out to dry. If Pulis had have done that you wouldn't have been shy in coming forward to have a go so why does O'Neill get away with it? Ditto McClean at left back two games in a row for the last half an hour? The last manager was reamed for it yet nobody mentions it with O'Neill. It's ridiculous management that is costing us. We're running out of time and games. A fair post mate, my point is that up until lockdown there was a lot more good than bad and we aren’t fighting relegation because of MON’s ineptness are we? BM He's starting to undo his own good work.
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Post by franklin66 on Jun 27, 2020 18:38:50 GMT
I thought it was a very restrained interview it was an honest assessment, we the fans get the blame for "scaring" the team but it's clear they are weak. Even behind closed doors they shit it..
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 27, 2020 18:43:16 GMT
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jun 27, 2020 18:48:10 GMT
I fancy there is one man ruing he allowed himself to be overruled a few moths ago Warnock showed today the benefits of course and distance success in domestic leagues and survival battles O’Neils whole approach was fundamentally wrong and naive selection tactics , he had a winning formula and got into a typical coach’s over thinking mess in changing it and now with Powell and Allen out he can’t get close to it He’s done better than I expected but I’m of the view he is going come ip short and i cant wait to hear Scholes explanation of “we’ve got a Proper manager now “ if it’s jones that sends us down which for sure show it’s not all about the last 4 managers who can clearly as they have shown elsewhere manage successfully
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2020 18:54:39 GMT
Absolutely not. We are in this position for a multitude of reasons. MON has given us a punchers chance of staying up, so I'm well aware of how harsh I'm being right now, and I am. That's the world we live in though isn't it? He's been brought in to do a job. If he doesn't keep us up, regardless of where we were when he came in he's failed. I can't remember seeing you this pissed off ever and there's been plenty of chances to be. I'm frustrated with self inflicted failure, from the manager down to the players. I just hate to see it. I can take defeat any day of the week, but what I cant take is players not giving a toss, showing no fight or aggression for basic 50/50s all over the park - something we've all seen since we came down. I also can't take a manager that has worked miracles in getting us into a situation where we have a punchers chance of staying up, only to start playing silly beggars with his teams and giving a bunch of players every excuse to underperform and/or restrict their performances with daft things like a 6'+ giant centre half at right back. Football is a simple game. The best managers and players keep things simple and do the basics better than anyone else.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jun 27, 2020 19:54:41 GMT
That's a dreadful interview. He's turned on the players and we all know how that ends.I'll be surprised if we win another game all season after that. Different manager, different player response. MO'N giving you a bollocking is much different to Nathan Jones blabbering on and blaming you. I think if I was in that dressing room I'd have a lot of respect for MO'N considering the recovery he's done so far and his previous managerial record. I'd sit up and listen. The Luton players seem to find Jones ok , suggests it’s not entirely down to the manager
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2020 21:01:45 GMT
He said we're ONLY 2 games in! Out of 9 that's like 10 games into a regular season with 5 under our belts. The weather's been nice but this isn't the third week in August, buck your ideas up. Well when is is exactly in football speak? Mid april or something. No need to panic.
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Post by gingerninja on Jun 27, 2020 21:33:32 GMT
I thought the last interview on here was very telling, he clearly was very angry yet spoke calmly. He's an intelligent and thoughtful man, yes a couple of dubious selections since lockdown but I expect him to get us out of this.
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Post by stokeykez on Jun 28, 2020 7:42:01 GMT
I thought he gave a very measured interview, these players are still of the mentality that they are better than relegation, they are not. The boss is a very calm, mature guy who I think will give far worse behind closed doors than in front of a microphone
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Post by blackpoolred on Jun 28, 2020 8:30:54 GMT
I thought it was a very honest interview to be honest. He did sound unhappy with Powel and also said some of the performances were unacceptable and there will be changes - not quite sure how he is going to make sweeping changes with what he has.
Feel sorry for him a little, it took him a bit of time when he first came in, but we were in good form before lockdown and looked like he was managing to polish a turd quite nicely.
Unfortunately, we lost Allen and he is now having to deal with what managers before him have had to deal with as in players coming back from pre-season out of condition and uninterested.
It will take time to rattle them into shape again, but that is something he does not have.
Would I keep him for tier 3 footy - I am not sure, he has no experience in English football and his 2 signings have been a bit baffling, as in a central defender that had not played football for a long while and that was out of shape physically and not match fit, at a time when we could not afford to be bleeding players back in and then the signing of Thompson - who could not hold down a regular place in a tier 3 team - all a bit bizarre
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Post by neddy on Jun 28, 2020 8:42:06 GMT
I thought it was a very honest interview to be honest. He did sound unhappy with Powel and also said some of the performances were unacceptable and there will be changes - not quite sure how he is going to make sweeping changes with what he has. Feel sorry for him a little, it took him a bit of time when he first came in, but we were in good form before lockdown and looked like he was managing to polish a turd quite nicely. Unfortunately, we lost Allen and he is now having to deal with what managers before him have had to deal with as in players coming back from pre-season out of condition and uninterested. It will take time to rattle them into shape again, but that is something he does not have. Would I keep him for tier 3 footy - I am not sure, he has no experience in English football and his 2 signings have been a bit baffling, as in a central defender that had not played football for a long while and that was out of shape physically and not match fit, at a time when we could not afford to be bleeding players back in and then the signing of Thompson - who could not hold down a regular place in a tier 3 team - all a bit bizarre This and losing Allen has been a disaster for him.....interesting a common theme came out in his interview to Jones a la we did something all week in training and then Saturday comes and boom....the point being though these were mainly other managers players.....we have to stick with him in my opinion. I really hope he gets a reaction at Wigan as the fat lady will be clearing her throat!
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