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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 17, 2019 18:37:52 GMT
Gregory is poor. He links the play up in about every 3 games and can’t hit the broad side of a barn door. Not bad for playing intermittently but if we want to progress we need much better. Vokes has been awful since signing. Campbell is still learning and that’s cool but we need players ahead of him that we can rely on and then bring him on to learn with the job already done. Hogan is an impact player from the bench, when he’s started he’s been about our worst player. So yeah I think it’s a shower of shit up front tbh. i think Gregory is a good player actually, one of Jones few successes, unfortunately though he is no “fox in the box” but still I think he’s doing pretty well He's definitely had moments where he looks the part but I really do think they're few and far between. He'd be ok if he was used sparingly.
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Post by shipshape on Nov 17, 2019 18:43:28 GMT
i think Gregory is a good player actually, one of Jones few successes, unfortunately though he is no “fox in the box” but still I think he’s doing pretty well He's definitely had moments where he looks the part but I really do think they're few and far between. He'd be ok if he was used sparingly. He's a very intelligent player. Unfortunately his finishing is dreadful. I reckon we'd have six points more at least, if he was just half decent at putting it away.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 17, 2019 18:45:47 GMT
He's definitely had moments where he looks the part but I really do think they're few and far between. He'd be ok if he was used sparingly. He's a very intelligent player. Unfortunately his finishing is dreadful. I reckon we'd have six points more at least, if he was just half decent at putting it away. I think he's done some intelligent stuff but generally he doesn't. And we would. He is the calibre of player that Jones signed which is exactly the reason why we are where we are.
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Post by shipshape on Nov 17, 2019 18:58:19 GMT
He's a very intelligent player. Unfortunately his finishing is dreadful. I reckon we'd have six points more at least, if he was just half decent at putting it away. I think he's done some intelligent stuff but generally he doesn't. And we would. He is the calibre of player that Jones signed which is exactly the reason why we are where we are. He's the best of the Jones signings, which admittedly isn't saying much. The reason we are where we are goes beyond Gregory and Jones. It's the three poor managerial appointments in a row that leave us fucked up. Hopefully they've got lucky this time as it really is last chance saloon. In three years we could go from playing Man United to not playing Wycombe cos they're a league higher.
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Post by Pugsley on Nov 17, 2019 19:00:46 GMT
He's another Vokes, move on.
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Post by shipshape on Nov 17, 2019 19:05:47 GMT
He's another Vokes, move on. Who do you think we should sign, if we do sign anyone, in that position?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 17, 2019 19:15:46 GMT
I think he's done some intelligent stuff but generally he doesn't. And we would. He is the calibre of player that Jones signed which is exactly the reason why we are where we are. He's the best of the Jones signings, which admittedly isn't saying much. The reason we are where we are goes beyond Gregory and Jones. It's the three poor managerial appointments in a row that leave us fucked up. Hopefully they've got lucky this time as it really is last chance saloon. In three years we could go from playing Man United to not playing Wycombe cos they're a league higher. It is but signing League One standard players only takes you to one place. Jones did that. He didn’t have to.
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Post by shrewspotter on Nov 17, 2019 19:19:42 GMT
He's a very intelligent player. Unfortunately his finishing is dreadful. I reckon we'd have six points more at least, if he was just half decent at putting it away. I think he's done some intelligent stuff but generally he doesn't. And we would. He is the calibre of player that Jones signed which is exactly the reason why we are where we are. thats very true Cousins, Smith, Vokes, Lindsay are all poor. Powell hasn’t got going and I’m not convinced on Carter-Vickers plus Hogan is lazy AND we haven’t seen Adam Davies at all
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Post by Pugsley on Nov 17, 2019 19:35:30 GMT
He's another Vokes, move on. Who do you think we should sign, if we do sign anyone, in that position? No idea, just going off the clips. Do we need a CF next window? Not sure, but we'll be paying over the odds in January if we sign one.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Nov 17, 2019 19:40:16 GMT
A LB is vital, not a gamble on a striker.
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Post by shrewspotter on Nov 17, 2019 19:43:21 GMT
A LB is vital, not a gamble on a striker. both for me. Plus send back these pointless loans if we can
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Post by berahinosgoals on Nov 17, 2019 19:56:39 GMT
Vokes Gregory Campbell Hogan Diouf You'd imagine one or two would have to leave. We couldn't give the appalling Vokes away even if we wanted to. A shocking and sackable piece of business The thing is even at the time it seemed a ridiculous price. It's not even in hindsight
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 17, 2019 20:23:11 GMT
A LB is vital, not a gamble on a striker. We need both. And a goalie.
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Post by robwahlmann on Nov 17, 2019 20:26:01 GMT
He's another Vokes, move on. OK, let's say he is another Vokes. If we can offload Vokes for £3-5M it will probably pay for this player who is much younger and on less wages. Maybe that's the way it is?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2019 20:39:06 GMT
Maybe O'Neill can get Vokes firing
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Post by boskampsflaps on Nov 17, 2019 21:58:45 GMT
He's another Vokes, move on. OK, let's say he is another Vokes. If we can offload Vokes for £3-5M it will probably pay for this player who is much younger and on less wages. Maybe that's the way it is? Can't see anyone willing to get near his contract, I'll be surprised if he leaves.
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Post by brumstokie on Nov 17, 2019 22:12:20 GMT
OK, let's say he is another Vokes. If we can offload Vokes for £3-5M it will probably pay for this player who is much younger and on less wages. Maybe that's the way it is? Can't see anyone willing to get near his contract, I'll be surprised if he leaves. Agreed - he won’t be leaving & neither will Gregory who is on his last payday contract. However by next summer they may be the only strikers we have without any additional signings. Campbell out of contract & moving elsewhere? Diouf out of contract? & on too much money? Hogan not our player.
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Post by greystokie on Nov 17, 2019 22:18:56 GMT
I think he's done some intelligent stuff but generally he doesn't. And we would. He is the calibre of player that Jones signed which is exactly the reason why we are where we are. He's the best of the Jones signings, which admittedly isn't saying much. The reason we are where we are goes beyond Gregory and Jones. It's the three poor managerial appointments in a row that leave us fucked up. Hopefully they've got lucky this time as it really is last chance saloon. In three years we could go from playing Man United to not playing Wycombe cos they're a league higher. Don't forget the tail end of the Hughes era that saddled us with two very expensive donkeys in Imbula and Wimmer
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Post by rawli on Nov 17, 2019 22:30:12 GMT
He's another Vokes, move on. Disagree. Good at holding the ball up, good at winning fouls, intelligent, can take a penalty, hasn't let himself balloon. I can't see Vokes being able to set up the 2 goals Hogan scored. His finishing is crap though - he showed that in 2nd half at Barnsley.
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Post by lordb on Nov 17, 2019 22:37:25 GMT
Maybe O'Neill can get Vokes firing Two up top, crosses into the box and he'd thrive.
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Post by Onneravineet on Nov 17, 2019 23:16:35 GMT
Nothing against this lad whatsoever BUT I would prefer that we kept the money in our pocket and instead get Mame fit and in the team.
He is a far better option than Vokes with much more pace and he is superior in the air. He also gives 100%, whereas Vokes just doesn’t in my opinion.
Like the General says, a LB is a priority! If we can pull Verlinden back for a viable starting spot challenge then I would be happy in just spending on the left back.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Nov 18, 2019 10:02:42 GMT
Nothing against the guy or Aberdeen standard but from looking at the Youtube clips he really doesnt look up to much.
Very static target man.
It will be like having another Crouch up front but with less finishing ability. It forces you to play one way.
If he is only a back-up option I could understand it, but we have SO MANY back-up options as people have mentioned that we need to clear off our books.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2019 10:41:59 GMT
The trouble with these kind of YouTube compilations they only show the best bits. We can see he has an eye for goal but what's the rest of his game like ?
Btw how much are Aberdeen wanting ?
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Post by noustie on Nov 18, 2019 10:44:08 GMT
Nothing against the guy or Aberdeen standard but from looking at the Youtube clips he really doesnt look up to much. Very static target man. It will be like having another Crouch up front but with less finishing ability. It forces you to play one way. If he is only a back-up option I could understand it, but we have SO MANY back-up options as people have mentioned that we need to clear off our books. My cousin is a season ticket holder and I keep an eye on them as was born there. When he first arrived he was an absolute pudding who was trying to do too much outside the box – his link up is pretty pish. However, once he restrained himself to just operating in and around the box he started to score/ contribute more. Not convinced he is Championship standard and think there’d be more success in trying to get a tune out of Vokes personally. If we’re looking for a striker out of Scotland to play off a front man then surely they should be looking at Shankland at Dundee United. He is a natural born goal scorer and has that skill when he is in the box of everyone else flapping about whereas he’s just clinical. At Ayr he scored 50 goals in 61 games and for United his current record is 19 goals in 18 games. Kilmarnock’s left back would also be a shout as he’s not PL standard but looks pretty decent whenever he has played for Scotland.
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Post by roylandstoke on Nov 18, 2019 10:46:55 GMT
He's another Vokes, move on. OK, let's say he is another Vokes. If we can offload Vokes for £3-5M it will probably pay for this player who is much younger and on less wages. Maybe that's the way it is? No one is giving us £3M for Sam Vokes. The best we can hope for is that someone would take him for free without us having to subsidise his wages.
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Post by Northy on Nov 18, 2019 10:58:06 GMT
Can I be the first to say he's dogshit and plays in a pub league? Followed by telling you I've got a bad feeling about this but hope I'm proved wrong? No you can't say that
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Post by Northy on Nov 18, 2019 11:02:12 GMT
If we're talking Scottish players or players in Scotland, has anyone seen Liam Donnelly play? Northern Irish lad who is in the current squad. Seemed to start off as a right back but has shifted into midfield and apparently played in a number of different positions, and scored 5 in 10, for Motherwell including DM, CM and RM. www.transfermarkt.co.uk/liam-donnelly/leistungsdaten/spieler/211121not seen him but seen Lawrence Shankland of Dundee united play a few times, would be worth keeping an eye on him when they get promoted to see if he can keep up the scoring
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Post by berahinosgoals on Nov 18, 2019 19:58:36 GMT
Nice to be linked with new players but as the ink is still wet on the paper is does raise a question (for me) of who is making the signing?
He as good as said he is still getting to know his own players
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Nov 18, 2019 20:01:14 GMT
Nice to be linked with new players but as the ink is still wet on the paper is does raise a question (for me) of who is making the signing? He as good as said he is still getting to know his own players Has he signed then?
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Post by berahinosgoals on Nov 18, 2019 20:02:00 GMT
Nice to be linked with new players but as the ink is still wet on the paper is does raise a question (for me) of who is making the signing? He as good as said he is still getting to know his own players Has he signed then? The manager
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