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Post by neddy on Jan 29, 2020 8:24:51 GMT
www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/lawrence-shankland-transfer-trigger-point-21382878Dundee United boss Robbie Neilson has confessed he could be powerless to stop Lawrence Shankland leaving if a significant offer comes in for his star man before the close of the window.
A host of scouts were in attendance to keep a close eye on the 24-year-old who is attracting serious interest from Stoke City.
Record Sport exclusively revealed United will look to hold for in excess of £2m if Michael O'Neill's side or other suitors came calling for a player who is under contract until 2022."It depends what the bid is. If someone comes in with a million pounds it's going to get papped out the door. Reading that he does seem very much for sale and we need to trust MON on this.......£2m not much today but we all remember Greenacre and Ellis lol 😂
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jan 29, 2020 8:29:14 GMT
Both Cosgrove and Shankland are very uninspiring. The teams they're scoring against up there are nowhere near championship standard more like league 2. Good luck in finding a League Two forward who is scoring more than a goal a game. That's a poor argument. May as well go sign friggin Chris Porter. I'd rather we keep the money until the summer, we've been signing substandard players for the sake of it for the last 3 years or so and look where it's got us.
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Post by chad on Jan 29, 2020 8:29:18 GMT
Both Cosgrove and Shankland are very uninspiring. The teams they're scoring against up there are nowhere near championship standard more like league 2. Bet a lot of Leicester fans were very uninspired when the signed Vardy
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2020 8:31:36 GMT
Good luck in finding a League Two forward who is scoring more than a goal a game. That's a poor argument. May as well go sign friggin Chris Porter. I'd rather we keep the money until the summer, we've been signing substandard players for the sake of it for the last 3 years or so and look where it's got us. We’ve been signing high earning, overpriced sub standard players who appear to lack real motivation. Therein lies the difference.....
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jan 29, 2020 8:39:36 GMT
That's a poor argument. May as well go sign friggin Chris Porter. I'd rather we keep the money until the summer, we've been signing substandard players for the sake of it for the last 3 years or so and look where it's got us. We’ve been signing high earning, overpriced sub standard players who appear to lack real motivation. Therein lies the difference..... I agree, neither policies are right. This Shankland fella couldn't score a single goal for Aberdeen in 17 appearances and also couldn't score a single goal for St Mirren in 17 appearances not so long ago Cosgrove is the same, couldn't make it at Carlisle, Barrow or even North Ferriby United. I like MON but I think he'd be better off keeping his powder dry until the summer. He's got Diouf who's scored goals in the Prem and Bundesliga who's a better option than those 2 until then.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2020 8:42:13 GMT
Both Cosgrove and Shankland are very uninspiring. The teams they're scoring against up there are nowhere near championship standard more like league 2. It is on one aspect but looking at those clips, he looks a natural finisher and those kind of players tend to be able to score in any division, Steino was playing in the third tier of English football when he moved to Chelsea and had no problem there in the early days. Not quite, he'd scored 8 in the 1st 12 games at championship level before he moved to Chelsea
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Post by neddy on Jan 29, 2020 8:42:14 GMT
We’ve been signing high earning, overpriced sub standard players who appear to lack real motivation. Therein lies the difference..... I agree, neither policies are right. This Shankland fella couldn't score a single goal for Aberdeen in 17 appearances and also couldn't score a single goal for St Mirren in 17 appearances not so long ago Cosgrove is the same, couldn't make it at Carlisle, Barrow or even North Ferriby United. I like MON but I think he'd be better off keeping his powder dry until the summer. He's got Diouf who's scored goals in the Prem and Bundesliga who's a better option than those 2 until then. Do you think Hogan and Gregory are better?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2020 8:43:41 GMT
That's a poor argument. May as well go sign friggin Chris Porter. I'd rather we keep the money until the summer, we've been signing substandard players for the sake of it for the last 3 years or so and look where it's got us. We’ve been signing high earning, overpriced sub standard players who appear to lack real motivation. Therein lies the difference..... Some can see it, some can't. Shankland is 24 and would cost significantly less than the likes of what we've signed before. He might flop, he might not. You just can't really turn that goal record down easily regardless of the level it's at. It's surely worth a second or third look and some kind of punt?
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Post by sportsman on Jan 29, 2020 8:46:32 GMT
We’ve been signing high earning, overpriced sub standard players who appear to lack real motivation. Therein lies the difference..... I agree, neither policies are right. This Shankland fella couldn't score a single goal for Aberdeen in 17 appearances and also couldn't score a single goal for St Mirren in 17 appearances not so long ago Cosgrove is the same, couldn't make it at Carlisle, Barrow or even North Ferriby United. I like MON but I think he'd be better off keeping his powder dry until the summer. He's got Diouf who's scored goals in the Prem and Bundesliga who's a better option than those 2 until then. Salah and de bruyne did fuck all at chelsea.
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Post by werrington on Jan 29, 2020 8:47:04 GMT
Both Cosgrove and Shankland are very uninspiring. The teams they're scoring against up there are nowhere near championship standard more like league 2. We should go down the proven premiership player route and spend between £6-£10m on him That’ll see us right Hackett lad
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2020 8:51:12 GMT
We’ve been signing high earning, overpriced sub standard players who appear to lack real motivation. Therein lies the difference..... I agree, neither policies are right. This Shankland fella couldn't score a single goal for Aberdeen in 17 appearances and also couldn't score a single goal for St Mirren in 17 appearances not so long ago Cosgrove is the same, couldn't make it at Carlisle, Barrow or even North Ferriby United. I like MON but I think he'd be better off keeping his powder dry until the summer. He's got Diouf who's scored goals in the Prem and Bundesliga who's a better option than those 2 until then. Almost all of which were 10-15 minute cameos from the bench.....
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2020 8:53:12 GMT
We’ve been signing high earning, overpriced sub standard players who appear to lack real motivation. Therein lies the difference..... Some can see it, some can't. Shankland is 24 and would cost significantly less than the likes of what we've signed before. He might flop, he might not. You just can't really turn that goal record down easily regardless of the level it's at. It's surely worth a second or third look and some kind of punt? Signs for £2m on a relatively low wage. The worst that happens is he flops and then joins Hibs for £400k.
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Post by pavel on Jan 29, 2020 8:56:34 GMT
There’s no problem buying players from “lower leagues” if we do our homework properly and they fit the team ethos and style. Of course there will be some failures, some good buys and in the best cases some gems. It’s a relatively low risk strategy that can pay real dividends and one we’ve completely ignored recently. Let’s face it, it’s going to be hard to fail more spectacularly than what we have done over the last 3-4 years! We need to widen our recruitment anyway.
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Post by chigstoke on Jan 29, 2020 9:21:22 GMT
I've just had a look at Shankland's goal record
Crikey that isn't half good is it? 50 in 61 for Ayr United, now on 22 in 19 for Dundee United, he's definitely a goal scorer. Regardless of the leagues he's played in, he knows where the back of the net is.
You cannot ignore those stats, plain and simple. And a bonus of him being cheaper than alternatives as well.
And he's only 24, so he's still young. That's one I'd be more than willing to take a punt on. Bit of MON magic, £2.5 Million and thank you very much Dundee United.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jan 29, 2020 9:23:05 GMT
I agree, neither policies are right. This Shankland fella couldn't score a single goal for Aberdeen in 17 appearances and also couldn't score a single goal for St Mirren in 17 appearances not so long ago Cosgrove is the same, couldn't make it at Carlisle, Barrow or even North Ferriby United. I like MON but I think he'd be better off keeping his powder dry until the summer. He's got Diouf who's scored goals in the Prem and Bundesliga who's a better option than those 2 until then. Do you think Hogan and Gregory are better? I didn't want either of them at the club either.
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Post by Squeekster on Jan 29, 2020 9:23:35 GMT
It is on one aspect but looking at those clips, he looks a natural finisher and those kind of players tend to be able to score in any division, Steino was playing in the third tier of English football when he moved to Chelsea and had no problem there in the early days. Not quite, he'd scored 8 in the 1st 12 games at championship level before he moved to Chelsea Even better he showed he could step up twice, I'd forgot that we'd won promotion before he left.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Jan 29, 2020 9:26:56 GMT
God help shankland when he misses a few shots.
I don't know why but I'd rather cosgrove myself, this shankland screams chris greenacre to me.
We should send one or two of our fringe strikers to scotland on loan to get a yardstick on how hard it is to score goals. Anthony stokes looked like Thierry Henry there
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jan 29, 2020 9:30:00 GMT
I've just had a look at Shankland's goal record Crikey that isn't half good is it? 50 in 61 for Ayr United, now on 22 in 19 for Dundee United, he's definitely a goal scorer. Regardless of the leagues he's played in, he knows where the back of the net is. You cannot ignore those stats, plain and simple. And a bonus of him being cheaper than alternatives as well. And he's only 24, so he's still young. That's one I'd be more than willing to take a punt on. Bit of MON magic, £2.5 Million and thank you very much Dundee United. And before that he played 136 games and scored 30 goals. It's very common for strikers to go through purple patches at a club for a season or 2 then move and totally flop. I remember Carl Saunders scoring a goal a game for a few months and then not being able to hit a cows arse with a banjo.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2020 9:33:16 GMT
I've just had a look at Shankland's goal record Crikey that isn't half good is it? 50 in 61 for Ayr United, now on 22 in 19 for Dundee United, he's definitely a goal scorer. Regardless of the leagues he's played in, he knows where the back of the net is. You cannot ignore those stats, plain and simple. And a bonus of him being cheaper than alternatives as well. And he's only 24, so he's still young. That's one I'd be more than willing to take a punt on. Bit of MON magic, £2.5 Million and thank you very much Dundee United. And before that he played 136 games and scored 30 goals. It's very common for strikers to go through purple patches at a club for a season or 2 then move and totally flop. I remember Carl Saunders scoring a goal a game for a few months and then not being able to hit a cows arse with a banjo. His purple patch being 88 goals in 100 games which is pretty much 3 seasons worth. And your memory must be playing tricks on you, Saunders scored 9 goals in 7 games in 86/87 including a hat trick and a brace. Take those goals away and he scored 15 goals in 150 odd appearances..............
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Post by neddy on Jan 29, 2020 9:33:37 GMT
Do you think Hogan and Gregory are better? I didn't want either of them at the club either. Respectfully that wasn’t my question ....
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Post by Squeekster on Jan 29, 2020 9:36:32 GMT
I've just had a look at Shankland's goal record Crikey that isn't half good is it? 50 in 61 for Ayr United, now on 22 in 19 for Dundee United, he's definitely a goal scorer. Regardless of the leagues he's played in, he knows where the back of the net is. You cannot ignore those stats, plain and simple. And a bonus of him being cheaper than alternatives as well. And he's only 24, so he's still young. That's one I'd be more than willing to take a punt on. Bit of MON magic, £2.5 Million and thank you very much Dundee United. And before that he played 136 games and scored 30 goals. It's very common for strikers to go through purple patches at a club for a season or 2 then move and totally flop. I remember Carl Saunders scoring a goal a game for a few months and then not being able to hit a cows arse with a banjo. 164 games for us and 24 goals the spider!
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Post by werrington on Jan 29, 2020 9:38:03 GMT
Off track
Who was the Scottish bloke around 10? years ago who banged them in for fun ?
They used to call him the doc as he was medically trained
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2020 9:38:58 GMT
Off track Who was the Scottish bloke around 10? years ago who banged them in for fun ? They used to call him the doc as he was medically trained Kenny Deuchar.
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Post by bolders on Jan 29, 2020 9:40:31 GMT
Ww could probably buy the both of them for around the combined fee of £5mil plus send them a loanee
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Post by werrington on Jan 29, 2020 9:40:41 GMT
Off track Who was the Scottish bloke around 10? years ago who banged them in for fun ? They used to call him the doc as he was medically trained Kenny Deuchar. That’s him mate Seemed to score a hat trick every week
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Post by Eggybread on Jan 29, 2020 9:42:29 GMT
We’ve been signing high earning, overpriced sub standard players who appear to lack real motivation. Therein lies the difference..... I agree, neither policies are right. This Shankland fella couldn't score a single goal for Aberdeen in 17 appearances and also couldn't score a single goal for St Mirren in 17 appearances not so long ago Cosgrove is the same, couldn't make it at Carlisle, Barrow or even North Ferriby United. I like MON but I think he'd be better off keeping his powder dry until the summer. He's got Diouf who's scored goals in the Prem and Bundesliga who's a better option than those 2 until then. I would have at a guess that you have never heard of either player up until a few weeks ago let alone seen either play.Ill put my faith in our manager thanks.Your argument is contradictory. "Cosgrove is the same, couldn't make it at Carlisle, Barrow or even North Ferriby United." But he knocks in 28 goals in 60 for Aberdeen. Pint half full or half empty.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2020 9:45:54 GMT
That’s him mate Seemed to score a hat trick every week You'll never beat the legend that was Marco Negri.
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Post by sneydgreenstokie1 on Jan 29, 2020 9:46:15 GMT
That’s him mate Seemed to score a hat trick every week Used to play for Ross County Seem to remember them getting a few promotions with his goals
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2020 9:54:00 GMT
By far the most prolific striker in Scottish lower league football is A.Trialist, been knocking them in week in week out for years.....
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Post by somersetpotter on Jan 29, 2020 9:59:08 GMT
I've just had a look at Shankland's goal record Crikey that isn't half good is it? 50 in 61 for Ayr United, now on 22 in 19 for Dundee United, he's definitely a goal scorer. Regardless of the leagues he's played in, he knows where the back of the net is. You cannot ignore those stats, plain and simple. And a bonus of him being cheaper than alternatives as well. And he's only 24, so he's still young. That's one I'd be more than willing to take a punt on. Bit of MON magic, £2.5 Million and thank you very much Dundee United. And before that he played 136 games and scored 30 goals. It's very common for strikers to go through purple patches at a club for a season or 2 then move and totally flop. I remember Carl Saunders scoring a goal a game for a few months and then not being able to hit a cows arse with a banjo. The lad's only 24, those 136 games were probably when he was learning his trade. Look at Harry Kane, does fuck all (flops at a number of champ clubs) until he was 21ish and turns into a world class striker. Same with loads of strikers, judging them before they've come of age isn't productive.
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