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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Nov 17, 2019 22:02:14 GMT
suppose he was stupid enough to go to epstein's house even after he epstein was convicted, so maybe he is stupid enough to allow epstein to take a picture of him with an underage girl he was abusing ? ... might well have been for blackmail purposes ? I guess that one issue that might come out is...are there any many more?. is it likely that there is only one person that he met in these circumstances.. ...particularly as this accuser is 17 which would not be an offence in itself in this country..... leaving aside the trafficking issues of course. I think that there lies the problem. In itself, doing a 17 year old in the UK is not an offence, the issue here is the association with Epstein and the ability to plausibly deny any knowledge of what Epstein was about and by extension what was Andy up to in his numerous stop overs. It was interesting that the friendship with the alleged pimp, Ghislaine Maxewell was not questioned in any way. I'm guessing she was off limits as nothing has been proven about her activities etc.
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Post by starkiller on Nov 17, 2019 22:31:26 GMT
He gets his ringing endorsement from Fergie.
This woman is clearly kept on RF payroll for no other reasons than she knows too much.
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Post by NassauDave on Nov 17, 2019 23:48:59 GMT
It's all becoming a little bit nauseating now. Andrew claims he was "too honourable" when he stayed with Epstein after he was convicted of child sex offences. Prince Andrew says he stayed with paedophile Jeffrey Epstein because he was ‘too honourable’ linkToo horrible?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2019 3:09:03 GMT
I've never liked Andrew, seems guilty to me but the law needs to take its course..... so it's doubtful that there will be prosecutions....but I think that Lee has a point about the things " we" should be alarmed about. 100% this.
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Post by felonious on Nov 18, 2019 6:55:32 GMT
I've never liked Andrew, seems guilty to me but the law needs to take its course..... so it's doubtful that there will be prosecutions....but I think that Lee has a point about the things " we" should be alarmed about. 100% this. Your absolutely right.
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Post by Gods on Nov 18, 2019 8:18:56 GMT
I thought Maitlis missed an open goal by not asking Prince Andrew if he had ever had sex with anyone in the house of Epstein.
Surely the most likely explanation is he took part in one or more of the numerous orgies with the young girls on tap and Virginia was one of them and would remember the Prince 20 years on but he would not remember the many female participants.
Hence why he says he does not remember meeting Virginia not that he never has.
In other words they are both, sort of, telling the truth.
I was screaming at the TV, 'ask the obvious next question you mad old bat'!
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Post by Northy on Nov 18, 2019 8:27:33 GMT
For those that knew him when he was in the RN, he's a arsehole and a liar. Many stories about him out there.
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Post by Timmypotter on Nov 18, 2019 9:03:54 GMT
I thought Maitlis missed an open goal by not asking Prince Andrew if he had ever had sex with anyone in the house of Epstein. Surely the most likely explanation is he took part in one or more of the numerous orgies with the young girls on tap and Virginia was one of them and would remember the Prince 20 years on but he would not remember the many female participants. Hence why he says he does not remember meeting Virginia not that he never has. In other words they are both, sort of, telling the truth. I was screaming at the TV, 'ask the obvious next question you mad old bat'! I'd guess that questions were vetted before hand and certain questions were not to be asked. I can't see Emily Maitliss missing that tap in.
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Post by redstriper on Nov 18, 2019 9:26:51 GMT
Before the interview I viewed him as an arrogant sponger - I've not changed my opinion.
A shame if this reflects badly on the queen though. I've utmost respect for her as being totally professional in everything she does. I imagine she is pretty pissed off with him.
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Post by Gods on Nov 18, 2019 9:38:19 GMT
I thought Maitlis missed an open goal by not asking Prince Andrew if he had ever had sex with anyone in the house of Epstein. Surely the most likely explanation is he took part in one or more of the numerous orgies with the young girls on tap and Virginia was one of them and would remember the Prince 20 years on but he would not remember the many female participants. Hence why he says he does not remember meeting Virginia not that he never has. In other words they are both, sort of, telling the truth. I was screaming at the TV, 'ask the obvious next question you mad old bat'! I'd guess that questions were vetted before hand and certain questions were not to be asked. I can't see Emily Maitliss missing that tap in. I did wonder that,for sure Maitlis is very good but at no point did she explore in any way what he actually did in the house in all those days he was holed out there. The only info on that was volunteered by the Prince himself to say it was like a 'railway station' with all the comings and goings. Well who came and went, and what did they appear to be doing, and for whom and if he doesn't know was he just holed up in a bedroom somewhere and if so what was the point of being there at all, he could have just booked a room at the Travel Lodge? I actually thought he did address himself to the questions put to him even if people don't like the answers but the wider picture was never painted and in that may lie the truth.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Nov 18, 2019 9:40:43 GMT
I'd guess that questions were vetted before hand and certain questions were not to be asked. I can't see Emily Maitliss missing that tap in. I did wonder that,for sure Maitlis is very good but at no point did she explore in any way what he actually did in the house in all those days he was holed out there. The only info on that was volunteered by the Prince himself to say it was like a 'railway station' with all the comings and goings. Well who came and went, and what did they appear to be doing, and for whom and if he doesn't know was he just holed up in a bedroom somewhere and if so what was the point of being there at all, he could have just booked a room at the Travel Lodge? I actually thought he did address himself to the questions put to him but the wider picture was never told and in that may lie the truth. At the end of the day it shouldn't have been a BBC journalist that interviewed him it should have been the Police.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Nov 18, 2019 9:48:22 GMT
I've never liked Andrew, seems guilty to me but the law needs to take its course..... so it's doubtful that there will be prosecutions....but I think that Lee has a point about the things " we" should be alarmed about. Two wrongs don't make a right though do they? It's a pitty that posters that peppered the Muslim Rape Gang thread haven't been on here a bit more condemning Epstein. A man who abused thousands of under age girls.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Nov 18, 2019 9:59:53 GMT
I've never liked Andrew, seems guilty to me but the law needs to take its course..... so it's doubtful that there will be prosecutions....but I think that Lee has a point about the things " we" should be alarmed about. Two wrongs don't make a right though do they? It's a pitty that posters that peppered the Muslim Rape Gang thread haven't been on here a bit more condemning Epstein. A man who abused thousands of under age girls. True 2 wrongs don't But perhaps they see the Muslim gang issue as a bit closer to home , in local communities, an issue that has gone on and been known by the authorities for years and on an organised industrial scale where young vulnerable white girls have been subject to racism. Perhaps interest in the Andrew affair has only just started.
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Post by serpico on Nov 18, 2019 10:49:00 GMT
the whole sweat thing is odd, is that even a thing ? where you cant sweat ? ... obviously someone has already posted a picture on twitter of him sweating which totally contradicts him.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2019 10:55:48 GMT
the whole sweat thing is odd, is that even a thing ? where you cant sweat ? ... obviously someone has already posted a picture on twitter of him sweating which totally contradicts him. There was a doctor on Good Morning Britain today who said not sweating is usually caused by one of three things and Andrew's excuse wasn't one of them. The Doc considered it extremely doubtful and unlikely that this was genuine.
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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 18, 2019 12:41:11 GMT
A prince who's unable to sweat Is unsure which minors he met But nevertheless That Pizza Express Is one night he'll never forget.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2019 13:02:22 GMT
A prince who's unable to sweat Is unsure which minors he met But nevertheless That Pizza Express Is one night he'll never forget. An ode to the prince with hands deep in mince What colours the mitts, what set of the yolk? Caught out by the folk, For having a poke, A sweat he has ne'er had since.
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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 18, 2019 13:03:52 GMT
A paedo-befriending old prince Went public but failed to convince, The claim that the royal Was simply too loyal Made PR professionals wince.
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Nov 18, 2019 13:24:39 GMT
I feel a Haiku coming on...
Accusations fly A girl, a prince not charming Maitliss sees through it
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Post by marylandstoke on Nov 18, 2019 14:31:58 GMT
I think it may be quite along time or maybe never before he ventures west to the good old US of A again. 😄 Maybe we could swap him for the diplomats wife who (allegedly) was involved in the fatal accident in the Uk and then fled home. It was a car crash of an interview.. I'd rather have a lift off Prince Phillip than watch that again. 😄 Maybe it’s time for Phil the Greek to arrange another car crash then? And who invites a pedophile to their 18 year old daughters birthday party. I believe it was know at the time the invite was sent out?
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Post by bathstoke on Nov 18, 2019 14:59:02 GMT
I never realised His Royal Highness didn't sweat. Must be the blue blood. That might change once he flies over to the States. This time on an FBI plane, rather than Epsteins 'Lolita Express' (as his private jet was called, which HRH made several journeys on) I think it may be quite along time or maybe never before he ventures west to the good old US of A again. 😄 Maybe we could swap him for the diplomats wife who (allegedly) was involved in the fatal accident in the Uk and then fled home. There’s no allegedly abight’eet, she’s admitted it
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Post by bathstoke on Nov 18, 2019 15:00:38 GMT
I feel a Haiku coming on... Accusations fly A girl, a prince not charming Maitliss sees through it Boooo, that’s rubbish!
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Post by jimmygscfc on Nov 18, 2019 15:54:29 GMT
I guess that one issue that might come out is...are there any many more?. is it likely that there is only one person that he met in these circumstances.. ...particularly as this accuser is 17 which would not be an offence in itself in this country..... leaving aside the trafficking issues of course. I think that there lies the problem. In itself, doing a 17 year old in the UK is not an offence, the issue here is the association with Epstein and the ability to plausibly deny any knowledge of what Epstein was about and by extension what was Andy up to in his numerous stop overs. It was interesting that the friendship with the alleged pimp, Ghislaine Maxewell was not questioned in any way. I'm guessing she was off limits as nothing has been proven about her activities etc. Has anybody asked Ghislaine, who is in the bloody picture, if she remembers it being taken and can she explain what Andrew and his accuser are doing in a clinch? She's a piece of work herself, as was her dead dad!
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Nov 18, 2019 15:56:35 GMT
I feel a Haiku coming on... Accusations fly A girl, a prince not charming Maitliss sees through it Boooo, that’s rubbish! It conforms to the 5-7-5 rule, so do one!
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Post by harryburrows on Nov 18, 2019 16:00:44 GMT
I haven't seen the interview , just a question though did he shag this girl in the US or London ? Despite the fact she was American it would not be an offence in the UK
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 18, 2019 16:06:29 GMT
I've never liked Andrew, seems guilty to me but the law needs to take its course..... so it's doubtful that there will be prosecutions....but I think that Lee has a point about the things " we" should be alarmed about. 100% this. The universal condemnation of 'Prince' Andrew isn't a matter of left versus right, it's a matter of common decency. Subsequent conversations about power, privilege, arrogance, entitlement and the rule of law may become Political but the basic and obvious fact that he's an utter cunt isn't Political at all. Hurst's twitter feed is like an open sewer by the way.
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Post by neworleanstokie on Nov 18, 2019 18:05:31 GMT
Just watched the entire interview on YouTube. It's obvious Epstein was running an underage knocking shop with Maxwell acting as his Madam. He was then using it as leverage with politically influential people such as the idiot Prince Andrew.
The sheer arrogance of some of the comments "shooting weekend" etc. how can anyone support a monarchy after ER goes is beyond me.
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Post by bathstoke on Nov 18, 2019 18:08:56 GMT
It conforms to the 5-7-5 rule, so do one! Conformity is the enemy of artXx
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Post by marylandstoke on Nov 18, 2019 18:43:49 GMT
I think that there lies the problem. In itself, doing a 17 year old in the UK is not an offence, the issue here is the association with Epstein and the ability to plausibly deny any knowledge of what Epstein was about and by extension what was Andy up to in his numerous stop overs. It was interesting that the friendship with the alleged pimp, Ghislaine Maxewell was not questioned in any way. I'm guessing she was off limits as nothing has been proven about her activities etc. Has anybody asked Ghislaine, who is in the bloody picture, if she remembers it being taken and can she explain what Andrew and his accuser are doing in a clinch? She's a piece of work herself, as was her dead dad! They can’t find her to ask her apparently. She was somewhere in the NE USA by the seaside at her sisters (?) house. When she was spotted there and the knock on the door came she was then spotted with acquaintance on the Left coast in a burger bar. Its almost like she knows when there coming, like an MI6th sense. There goes the knighthood.
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Post by bathstoke on Nov 18, 2019 18:45:13 GMT
I haven't seen the interview , just a question though did he shag this girl in the US or London ? Both
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