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Post by felonious on Nov 13, 2019 19:39:37 GMT
It's not going to end well is it? Competition, alternatives, alienation of customers, diminishing sales. Royal Mail wins bid to halt Christmas postal strikes www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50409317
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Post by thevoid on Nov 13, 2019 19:59:34 GMT
Our local sorting office are looking to recruit football hooligans. There's a sign outside saying 'Casuals Wanted'.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2019 20:15:26 GMT
I’m not sure anyone would notice if the Sandbach postal workers did go on strike 😁
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Post by salopstick on Nov 13, 2019 21:02:21 GMT
Jezza doesn’t like this.
Most postal votes are older tories
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 13, 2019 21:17:51 GMT
A 97% strike vote on a 76% turnout no longer deemed good enough to strike.
I thought respecting democracy was the be all and end all for some on here?
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Post by algor on Nov 13, 2019 22:29:57 GMT
A 97% strike vote on a 76% turnout no longer deemed good enough to strike. I thought respecting democracy was the be all and end all for some on here? Poor MoMo, you only like judges when they give a verdict you like don't you. You were loving them every time they ruled against the Tories! Old Jezza's mates have failed to stop Tory postal vote's. These judge's are a bunch a cunt's if they don't agree with MoMo. Your morals are laughable.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 13, 2019 22:40:51 GMT
A 97% strike vote on a 76% turnout no longer deemed good enough to strike. I thought respecting democracy was the be all and end all for some on here? Poor MoMo, you only like judges when they give a verdict you like don't you. You were loving them every time they ruled against the Tories! Old Jezza's mates have failed to stop Tory postal vote's. These judge's are a bunch a cunt's if they don't agree with MoMo. Your morals are laughable. There wasn't a vote of any sort when they ruled on the prorogation! What other democratic decisions are you referring to? People like you change your views on democracy at the same pace you (hopefully) change your pants.
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Post by partickpotter on Nov 13, 2019 23:11:18 GMT
Poor MoMo, you only like judges when they give a verdict you like don't you. You were loving them every time they ruled against the Tories! Old Jezza's mates have failed to stop Tory postal vote's. These judge's are a bunch a cunt's if they don't agree with MoMo. Your morals are laughable. There wasn't a vote of any sort when they ruled on the prorogation! What other democratic decisions are you referring to? People like you change your views on democracy at the same pace you (hopefully) change your pants. The Union fucked up. Blame them.
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Post by bathstoke on Nov 14, 2019 6:53:16 GMT
Yet more aftermath of ill conceived decisions that Cameron made.
Loved the quip about nobodies reading his book, cause we’re all too busy clearing up the $#!t that he’s written about in his book...
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Post by felonious on Nov 14, 2019 7:36:14 GMT
A 97% strike vote on a 76% turnout no longer deemed good enough to strike. I thought respecting democracy was the be all and end all for some on here? I think it was the following process that caused concern. "This included, the company said, union members "being encouraged to open their ballot papers on site, mark them as 'yes', with their colleagues present and filming or photographing them doing so, before posting their ballots together at their workplace postboxes". Royal Mail said this amounted to a "de facto workplace ballot", contrary to rules on industrial action, to maximise the turnout and the "yes" vote." The worry was that it might be intimidating to postal workers.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 14, 2019 8:03:43 GMT
A 97% strike vote on a 76% turnout no longer deemed good enough to strike. I thought respecting democracy was the be all and end all for some on here? I think it was the following process that caused concern. "This included, the company said, union members "being encouraged to open their ballot papers on site, mark them as 'yes', with their colleagues present and filming or photographing them doing so, before posting their ballots together at their workplace postboxes". Royal Mail said this amounted to a "de facto workplace ballot", contrary to rules on industrial action, to maximise the turnout and the "yes" vote." The worry was that it might be intimidating to postal workers. Not one single complaint was made or received regarding the probity of the ballot.
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Post by bathstoke on Nov 14, 2019 8:16:50 GMT
I think it was the following process that caused concern. "This included, the company said, union members "being encouraged to open their ballot papers on site, mark them as 'yes', with their colleagues present and filming or photographing them doing so, before posting their ballots together at their workplace postboxes". Royal Mail said this amounted to a "de facto workplace ballot", contrary to rules on industrial action, to maximise the turnout and the "yes" vote." The worry was that it might be intimidating to postal workers. Not one single complaint was made or received regarding the probity of the ballot. Whoever the tiny amount of union reps were that decided on that action need a right shoeing. Silly own goal.
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Post by wagsastokie on Nov 14, 2019 8:20:49 GMT
I think it was the following process that caused concern. "This included, the company said, union members "being encouraged to open their ballot papers on site, mark them as 'yes', with their colleagues present and filming or photographing them doing so, before posting their ballots together at their workplace postboxes". Royal Mail said this amounted to a "de facto workplace ballot", contrary to rules on industrial action, to maximise the turnout and the "yes" vote." The worry was that it might be intimidating to postal workers. Not one single complaint was made or received regarding the probity of the ballot. But if the Union had stuck to the rules and had a postal ballot the company wouldn’t of had a leg to stand on And the workers would of had the right to withdraw there labour Lions lead by sheep comes to mind
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Post by felonious on Nov 14, 2019 8:21:46 GMT
I think it was the following process that caused concern. "This included, the company said, union members "being encouraged to open their ballot papers on site, mark them as 'yes', with their colleagues present and filming or photographing them doing so, before posting their ballots together at their workplace postboxes". Royal Mail said this amounted to a "de facto workplace ballot", contrary to rules on industrial action, to maximise the turnout and the "yes" vote." The worry was that it might be intimidating to postal workers. Not one single complaint was made or received regarding the probity of the ballot. Not even in private up the line to the management. I find it difficult to believe that in the current circumstances that Royal Mail as a business finds itself in that the employees are hell bent on a prolonged strike which is going to ensure that customers find alternatives to Royal Mail. A business which is already under severe commercial pressure. Of course you may be absolutely correct that no one made a official complaint. Let's hope the complaints process did not have to be made in writing in front of other colleagues present with filming taking place
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 14, 2019 8:34:19 GMT
“The Electoral Reform Services who conducted the ballot confirmed it was run in full accordance of the law, and after over seven weeks since the ballot commenced, not one single person has complained... Yet despite all of this - with no evidence supporting their claim from any employee - Royal Mail can come to this court in what is a cowardly and vicious attack on its own workforce.”
After Brexit it will basically be impossible to strike.
Just what the hard right ERG pulling the strings in the Tory Party want.
Singapore on Thames.
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Post by bathstoke on Nov 14, 2019 9:52:50 GMT
“The Electoral Reform Services who conducted the ballot confirmed it was run in full accordance of the law, and after over seven weeks since the ballot commenced, not one single person has complained... Yet despite all of this - with no evidence supporting their claim from any employee - Royal Mail can come to this court in what is a cowardly and vicious attack on its own workforce.” After Brexit it will basically be impossible to strike. Just what the hard right ERG pulling the strings in the Tory Party want. Singapore on Thames. When’s the rematch then, Appeal!
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 14, 2019 10:07:25 GMT
“The Electoral Reform Services who conducted the ballot confirmed it was run in full accordance of the law, and after over seven weeks since the ballot commenced, not one single person has complained... Yet despite all of this - with no evidence supporting their claim from any employee - Royal Mail can come to this court in what is a cowardly and vicious attack on its own workforce.” After Brexit it will basically be impossible to strike. Just what the hard right ERG pulling the strings in the Tory Party want. Singapore on Thames. When’s the rematch then, Appeal! I imagine they'll win it as well
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 14, 2019 10:09:02 GMT
Of course it's the workers that are the issue. Posties, McDonalds, whoever, it's the workers! Fuck me they've worked a number on this country the Tories.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Nov 14, 2019 10:33:24 GMT
Of course it's the workers that are the issue. Posties, McDonalds, whoever, it's the workers! Fuck me they've worked a number on this country the Tories. Looks like a cross between Cyril Smith and John Prescott
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Nov 14, 2019 10:33:54 GMT
“The Electoral Reform Services who conducted the ballot confirmed it was run in full accordance of the law, and after over seven weeks since the ballot commenced, not one single person has complained... Yet despite all of this - with no evidence supporting their claim from any employee - Royal Mail can come to this court in what is a cowardly and vicious attack on its own workforce.” After Brexit it will basically be impossible to strike. Just what the hard right ERG pulling the strings in the Tory Party want. Singapore on Thames. I don't get it. There are numerous other threads on here where we're being told the Tories are finished, the old are dying, the young will be forever left wing, Jezza's army is on the march to power. Yet here you're telling us the Tories will be in power & remove all workers rights yadda yadda. Which is it? Are the Tories finished & we're going have years of Labour, or is Jezza useless & we're going have years of Tory rule?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 14, 2019 10:48:41 GMT
“The Electoral Reform Services who conducted the ballot confirmed it was run in full accordance of the law, and after over seven weeks since the ballot commenced, not one single person has complained... Yet despite all of this - with no evidence supporting their claim from any employee - Royal Mail can come to this court in what is a cowardly and vicious attack on its own workforce.” After Brexit it will basically be impossible to strike. Just what the hard right ERG pulling the strings in the Tory Party want. Singapore on Thames. I don't get it. There are numerous other threads on here where we're being told the Tories are finished, the old are dying, the young will be forever left wing, Jezza's army is on the march to power. Yet here you're telling us the Tories will be in power & remove all workers rights yadda yadda. Which is it? Are the Tories finished & we're going have years of Labour, or is Jezza useless & we're going have years of Tory rule? I've never said the Tories were finished and think they'll probably get a 30ish majority now that Farage has sold out and Trump manipulates his puppets from afar. And a vicious and bile filled barrel of shit this country will become.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Nov 14, 2019 10:55:25 GMT
I don't get it. There are numerous other threads on here where we're being told the Tories are finished, the old are dying, the young will be forever left wing, Jezza's army is on the march to power. Yet here you're telling us the Tories will be in power & remove all workers rights yadda yadda. Which is it? Are the Tories finished & we're going have years of Labour, or is Jezza useless & we're going have years of Tory rule? I've never said the Tories were finished and think they'll probably get a 30ish majority now that Farage has sold out and Trump manipulates his puppets from afar. And a vicious and bile filled barrel of shit this country will become. It already has. A massive part of why it has is the refusal to honour another result. The precedent has been set.
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Post by yeokel on Nov 14, 2019 11:12:06 GMT
I don't get it. There are numerous other threads on here where we're being told the Tories are finished, the old are dying, the young will be forever left wing, Jezza's army is on the march to power. Yet here you're telling us the Tories will be in power & remove all workers rights yadda yadda. Which is it? Are the Tories finished & we're going have years of Labour, or is Jezza useless & we're going have years of Tory rule? I've never said the Tories were finished and think they'll probably get a 30ish majority now that Farage has sold out and Trump manipulates his puppets from afar.
And a vicious and bile filled barrel of shit this country will become. I though it was the Russians who are doing the manipulating. Trump, Russians, Far-Right...... Is it/are they all the the same thing?
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Nov 14, 2019 11:45:27 GMT
I've never said the Tories were finished and think they'll probably get a 30ish majority now that Farage has sold out and Trump manipulates his puppets from afar. And a vicious and bile filled barrel of shit this country will become. It already has. A massive part of why it has is the refusal to honour another result. The precedent has been set. Bang on the money, mate.
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Post by salopstick on Nov 14, 2019 12:18:40 GMT
It already has. A massive part of why it has is the refusal to honour another result. The precedent has been set. Bang on the money, mate. And that’s a point I made repeatedley. You can’t have the moral high ground when a vote you do believe in is not honoured. Not honouring Brexit is one of the most anti democratic events to happen In This country for years. Some of these fuckers will pay on Dec 13 It has ramifications for the political classes for a long time.
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Post by felonious on Nov 14, 2019 13:11:25 GMT
I've never said the Tories were finished and think they'll probably get a 30ish majority now that Farage has sold out and Trump manipulates his puppets from afar.
And a vicious and bile filled barrel of shit this country will become. I though it was the Russians who are doing the manipulating. Trump, Russians, Far-Right...... Is it/are they all the the same thing? In a week in which the laudable and highly trustworthy Mrs Clinton is interfering in British politics. I assume she's forgotten that Obama interfered just short of campaigning in the referendum and the lovely Ms Pelosi hasn't held back either. I've no idea why the BBC haven't questioned the irony about Americans babbling on about Russian interference.
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Post by salopstick on Nov 14, 2019 15:30:29 GMT
I though it was the Russians who are doing the manipulating. Trump, Russians, Far-Right...... Is it/are they all the the same thing? In a week in which the laudable and highly trustworthy Mrs Clinton is interfering in British politics. I assume she's forgotten that Obama interfered just short of campaigning in the referendum and the lovely Ms Pelosi hasn't held back either. I've no idea why the BBC haven't questioned the irony about Americans babbling on about Russian interference. It’s called selected leftism
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Post by Frogger Theft Auto on Nov 15, 2019 15:13:51 GMT
America and Russia will definitely both be actively influencing our politics (and each others'), occasionally in the same direction.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Oct 14, 2022 6:50:40 GMT
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Oct 14, 2022 7:15:07 GMT
Not at all. They chose to strike and will now lose their jobs.
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