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Post by TheProletarian on Nov 6, 2019 22:51:41 GMT
Tony Scholes is our current CEO and it doesn’t take a genius to recognise that he has certainly not performed up to the expected standards over the course of these recent 3 years. Everyone here I imagine will already know these points, but to summarise: • Been late off the mark sacking previous managers Mark Hughes and Nathan Jones, whether the latter was a result of Jon Coates, we won’t ever truly know due to the next point. • He has been a large part of a black hole in communication between the board and the fans; all of the communication that seems to take place is trivial, such as recently him discussing “the hardest part of his job” and not “how will I save this club from plummeting even further through the leagues”. • He has been in charge of offloading players from this club, and this is one of his worst crimes. He has struggled to offload any player permanently, with many players being loaned out, especially those that would very positively effect the first team such as Badou Ndaiye in the 2018/19 season and Bojan in the 2017/18 relegation season. • In terms of appointing managers, he has struggled. All of his last appointments have been absolutely abysmal, these managers have a combined win ratio of 20.7%. This includes two seasons in a league which we were touted to win the league and make the playoffs. • The appointment of the first and fifth managers have been very poor in terms of a vision and process, it has taken a large amount of time (9 and 6+ days respectively) to appoint each manager. • Tony Scholes’ approach to appointing Alex Neil was very naive and heavy handed and could have landed us a heavy punishment if it was handled so well by Preston. • the contracts he has signed players under (at the behest of Cartwright or the managers) have all been too long, too expensive and impossible to move to another club. And finally here he is, evidently standing in the way of Stoke appointing Tony Pulis as our next manager. I recognise that it is a difficulty to “sack” a member of the board of directors so I would suggest that he make an official apology to stoke fans, another member of staff be appointed to the board, one to have a large contribution into manager appointment and communication. He should also conduct a long interview specifically showing us what has taken place in the boardroom, and how we WILL improve on this in the future. This should include concrete promises that we can see definitively. It’s time to make a change. So here’s the link to a poll. Tony Scholes in or out? oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/291807/tony-scholes-out
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Nov 6, 2019 22:53:04 GMT
Unsurprisingly I am in. Where do I sign.
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Nov 6, 2019 22:53:30 GMT
I’m in, fuck him off.
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Post by x1jlf on Nov 6, 2019 22:55:42 GMT
Obviously taking the truth
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Post by TheProletarian on Nov 6, 2019 22:58:58 GMT
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Post by pushon on Nov 6, 2019 23:03:03 GMT
Tony Scholes is our current CEO and it doesn’t take a genius to recognise that he has certainly not performed up to the expected standards over the course of these recent 3 years. Everyone here I imagine will already know these points, but to summarise: • Been late off the mark sacking previous managers Mark Hughes and Nathan Jones, whether the latter was a result of Jon Coates, we won’t ever truly know due to the next point. • He has been a large part of a black hole in communication between the board and the fans; all of the communication that seems to take place is trivial, such as recently him discussing “the hardest part of his job” and not “how will I save this club from plummeting even further through the leagues”. • He has been in charge of offloading players from this club, and this is one of his worst crimes. He has struggled to offload any player permanently, with many players being loaned out, especially those that would very positively effect the first team such as Badou Ndaiye in the 2018/19 season and Bojan in the 2017/18 relegation season. • In terms of appointing managers, he has struggled. All of his last appointments have been absolutely abysmal, these managers have a combined win ratio of 20.7%. This includes two seasons in a league which we were touted to win the league and make the playoffs. • The appointment of the first and fifth managers have been very poor in terms of a vision and process, it has taken a large amount of time (9 and 6+ days respectively) to appoint each manager. • Tony Scholes’ approach to appointing Alex Neil was very naive and heavy handed and could have landed us a heavy punishment if it was handled so well by Preston. And finally here he is, evidently standing in the way of Stoke appointing Tony Pulis as our next manager. I recognise that it is a difficulty to “sack” a member of the board of directors so I would suggest that he make an official apology to stoke fans, another member of staff be appointed to the board, one to have a large contribution into manager appointment and communication. He should also conduct a long interview specifically showing us what has taken place in the boardroom, and how we WILL improve on this in the future. This should include concrete promises that we can see definitively. It’s time to make a change. quote]My first thought was that "You couldn't make this rubbish up" But I'm wrong cos you just have.
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Post by TheProletarian on Nov 6, 2019 23:04:47 GMT
Tony Scholes is our current CEO and it doesn’t take a genius to recognise that he has certainly not performed up to the expected standards over the course of these recent 3 years. Everyone here I imagine will already know these points, but to summarise: • Been late off the mark sacking previous managers Mark Hughes and Nathan Jones, whether the latter was a result of Jon Coates, we won’t ever truly know due to the next point. • He has been a large part of a black hole in communication between the board and the fans; all of the communication that seems to take place is trivial, such as recently him discussing “the hardest part of his job” and not “how will I save this club from plummeting even further through the leagues”. • He has been in charge of offloading players from this club, and this is one of his worst crimes. He has struggled to offload any player permanently, with many players being loaned out, especially those that would very positively effect the first team such as Badou Ndaiye in the 2018/19 season and Bojan in the 2017/18 relegation season. • In terms of appointing managers, he has struggled. All of his last appointments have been absolutely abysmal, these managers have a combined win ratio of 20.7%. This includes two seasons in a league which we were touted to win the league and make the playoffs. • The appointment of the first and fifth managers have been very poor in terms of a vision and process, it has taken a large amount of time (9 and 6+ days respectively) to appoint each manager. • Tony Scholes’ approach to appointing Alex Neil was very naive and heavy handed and could have landed us a heavy punishment if it was handled so well by Preston. And finally here he is, evidently standing in the way of Stoke appointing Tony Pulis as our next manager. I recognise that it is a difficulty to “sack” a member of the board of directors so I would suggest that he make an official apology to stoke fans, another member of staff be appointed to the board, one to have a large contribution into manager appointment and communication. He should also conduct a long interview specifically showing us what has taken place in the boardroom, and how we WILL improve on this in the future. This should include concrete promises that we can see definitively. It’s time to make a change. quote]My first thought was that "You couldn't make this rubbish up" But I'm wrong cos you just have.Not quite sure what you mean by this. What exactly have I made up?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2019 23:45:13 GMT
What difference will signing on this poll make?
In one word. None
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Post by ibby on Nov 6, 2019 23:59:21 GMT
Time for him to move on.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2019 0:09:36 GMT
Ibby
Please tell us how the meeting in London went? You know. The one with Poolis and Peter. The one that you told us all about.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Nov 7, 2019 0:44:05 GMT
Amen to this.
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Post by Gods on Nov 7, 2019 0:47:45 GMT
I doubt it would make a single jot of difference, just more wasted money on another pay out and a new hire on a long learning curve.
It's the football side which has gone Pete Tong.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2019 0:48:01 GMT
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Nov 7, 2019 0:51:42 GMT
A key point to add is that in addition to being unable to move any players on, the contracts he has signed players under (at the behest of Cartwright or the managers) have all been too long, too expensive and impossible to move to another club. Agents just appear to run roughshod over him. So he’s fucked himself and the club from both ends in that regard.
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Post by pushon on Nov 7, 2019 0:55:09 GMT
Not quite sure what you mean by this. What exactly have I made up? Pretty much all of it especially from the second paragraph on. You've just taken a flight of fantasy and made unsubstantiated claims about the responsibilities attributed to one man, because of his job title. In your first paragraph you admit that you are unaware of who made particular decisions,but still proceed to allocate blame/responsibility to this man. I'm certain that you are not a board member at Stoke City, so how can you just assume that you are party to the allotment of responsibilities to various board members? If you have a copy of Tony Scholes "Job Description" please share it with all of us so that we can more accurately judge his performance record. Maybe you can arrange a performance appraisal, in public, while you're at it.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Nov 7, 2019 0:56:30 GMT
I doubt it would make a single jot of difference, just more wasted money on another pay out and a new hire on a long learning curve. It's the football side which has gone Pete Tong. Swansea City and West Brom both have different CEOs than when they came down. Sometimes fresh ideas off the pitch lead to fresh ideas and success on it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2019 0:57:34 GMT
I doubt it would make a single jot of difference, just more wasted money on another pay out and a new hire on a long learning curve. It's the football side which has gone Pete Tong. Swansea City and West Brom both have different CEOs than when they came down. Sometimes fresh ideas off the pitch lead to fresh ideas and success on it. The CEO bounce?
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Post by TheProletarian on Nov 7, 2019 7:34:47 GMT
A key point to add is that in addition to being unable to move any players on, the contracts he has signed players under (at the behest of Cartwright or the managers) have all been too long, too expensive and impossible to move to another club. Agents just appear to run roughshod over him. So he’s fucked himself and the club from both ends in that regard. Added to the list
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Post by TheProletarian on Nov 7, 2019 7:37:38 GMT
Pretty much all of it especially from the second paragraph on. You've just taken a flight of fantasy and made unsubstantiated claims about the responsibilities attributed to one man, because of his job title. In your first paragraph you admit that you are unaware of who made particular decisions,but still proceed to allocate blame/responsibility to this man. I'm certain that you are not a board member at Stoke City, so how can you just assume that you are party to the allotment of responsibilities to various board members? If you have a copy of Tony Scholes "Job Description" please share it with all of us so that we can more accurately judge his performance record. Maybe you can arrange a performance appraisal, in public, while you're at it. I do have a self-admission of what Tony Scholes does, as he said that the hardest part of his job is ‘offloading players’, so that’s one of my points validated. What I’m interested in is what exactly you think that the role of a CEO at a football club is? According to you a steals a living here by doing nothing, I’m saying he steals a living here by doing shit.
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Post by TheProletarian on Nov 7, 2019 7:38:03 GMT
I do have a self-admission of what Tony Scholes does, as he said that the hardest part of his job is ‘offloading players’, so that’s one of my points validated. What I’m interested in is what exactly you think that the role of a CEO at a football club is? According to you a steals a living here by doing nothing, I’m saying he steals a living here by doing shit. Also what have you done to the quotes??
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Post by anchorman on Nov 7, 2019 8:14:17 GMT
Voted!
Tony Scholes is destroying this football club, has resided over the past 3-4 years of disaster and yet remains in place which is alarming on every level. One being the owners. PC has left it to JC who with all due respect hasn't got a clue and would never find himself in such a position if it hadn't been handed to him on a plate by his dad and therefore he rely's heavily on Scholes who has now got a ridiculous amount of power within the club. The only reason that Scholes refuses to appoint Pulis (who is quite clearly the best candidate for the job in my opinion) is self preservation to the detriment of the club.
On Saturday at Barnsley the 2500 Stokies need to support the team first & foremost. However, if the opportunity arises (at the end of the match or if we're getting stuffed) then SCHOLES OUT and or TONY SCHOLES GET OUT OF OUR CLUB needs to be sung loud & clear!
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Post by bolders on Nov 7, 2019 8:42:28 GMT
He is on the board he isn’t going anywhere
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Post by lordb on Nov 7, 2019 8:47:36 GMT
Whether fans protesting against Scholes makes any difference or not I don't see any harm in agreeing with the o/p Scholes out please.
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Post by pushon on Nov 7, 2019 10:20:59 GMT
Also what have you done to the quotes?? It seems as though the format of replying to posts has somehow become mixed up here. I don't know about you but I'm finding it's becoming a bit confusing (which is not unusual)....Tom Jones?
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Post by dutchstokie on Nov 7, 2019 10:26:22 GMT
Done
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Post by lifelong on Nov 7, 2019 10:58:34 GMT
Bring back Jez Moxey
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Post by GeneralFaye on Nov 7, 2019 11:00:30 GMT
Shocking disrespect on show for a man who's put his heart and soul into this football club. You should all be ashamed.
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Post by ibby on Nov 7, 2019 22:54:36 GMT
Not a big fan of his sorry. The Wolves fans are glad to see the end of him, if you ask them for feedback.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2019 22:59:59 GMT
Not a big fan of his sorry. The Wolves fans are glad to see the end of him, if you ask them for feedback.
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Post by ibby on Nov 7, 2019 23:15:27 GMT
Not a big fan of his sorry. The Wolves fans are glad to see the end of him, if you ask them for feedback. What is so funny. Stop trolling , you will no longer get a respond by me
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