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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Oct 18, 2019 15:12:12 GMT
As much as I liked Shaqiri, and what he was capable of, it was what he wasn't capable of that got my back up about him!!! Charlie Adam got ripped apart on here for having a pop at him, yet there's obviously something in it!!! And people slate Joe Allen, when he's doing the work of two people...... The same now when he's covering for Ince!!! Coincidentally, Joe had his best game of the season against Swansea.......When Ince wasn't on!!! That's a good point re Allen/Ince I know eh!!! š
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Oct 18, 2019 15:14:41 GMT
Crouch in dig at Shaqiri and "PIE..." So that's why he was a bumpy fuck!!! š¤Ŗ
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 18, 2019 16:46:22 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 18, 2019 17:15:08 GMT
Crouch was one of the biggest football issues we've had the club since he signed. He never fitted in really and the better football was usually played when he was on the bench. Shaq and Pieters did way more us than he did. The thing is none of that is mutually exclusive with what he's saying. I don't think he's even particularly "blaming" Shaqiri, it's just that if you have a player who is not putting the work in when you're in a dogfight, even if he's scoring goals, then there's going to be a resentment that contributes to the general malaise. A player can't help being crap, but he can help being idle. And let's face it it's always been an underlying issue with Shaq. It's why he's been basically discarded at Liverpool despite fitting their system well and good performances when he did play. Shaq was the only good thing that season though. Iām sick of seeing the āgood old prosā blaming every other cunt.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 18, 2019 17:16:36 GMT
Crouch was one of the biggest football issues we've had the club since he signed. He never fitted in really and the better football was usually played when he was on the bench. Shaq and Pieters did way more us than he did. I suppose Stanley Matthews was pretty shit as well was he ? What? When Crouch played a lot of games for us we tended to be awful. When he didnāt, we were a lot better.
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Post by ursemboys on Oct 18, 2019 17:16:55 GMT
Funny how many time's he was injured for us but was fit for Switzerland.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 18, 2019 17:18:07 GMT
Crouch was one of the biggest football issues we've had the club since he signed. He never fitted in really and the better football was usually played when he was on the bench. Shaq and Pieters did way more us than he did. I liked Crouch, he was definitely an upgrade on John Carew, but despite the fact that he did his job well each game (he rarely stood out as having a bad game and was great defending corners) his job wasnāt what we needed. Crouch worked in a 4-4-2, which we didnāt play, or play well. I always felt that we should have looked for a more consistent Jones, who was relatively dynamic when he wanted to be, rather than go with the TP wet dream. I was never a massive KJ fan but in the end Crouch replaced him and it never worked. We went from having two athletic players up front to Crouchy and Charlie Adam. Itās what did for TP in the end.
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Post by werrington on Oct 18, 2019 17:20:28 GMT
The thing is none of that is mutually exclusive with what he's saying. I don't think he's even particularly "blaming" Shaqiri, it's just that if you have a player who is not putting the work in when you're in a dogfight, even if he's scoring goals, then there's going to be a resentment that contributes to the general malaise. A player can't help being crap, but he can help being idle. And let's face it it's always been an underlying issue with Shaq. It's why he's been basically discarded at Liverpool despite fitting their system well and good performances when he did play. Shaq was the only good thing that season though. Iām sick of seeing the āgood old prosā blaming every other cunt. Iād cut Ndiaye some slack also Bayern
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 18, 2019 17:21:27 GMT
Thank fuck we had Shaqiri otherwise weād of been relegated at Christmas and not in May.....he was one of 3-4 players who can hold up their head in that relegation season Crouch has let himself down there Crouch hasn't let anyone down, he's just telling people how it was. I don't think there is anything there that anyone with half a brain couldn't see. A poor attempt at sensationalism by a local rag.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 18, 2019 17:21:40 GMT
Donāt see why he has let himself down at all. He seems to have given an honest opinion - as an experienced pro - as to certain problems caused by Shaqs approach to the game. Itās not a blistering attack on his persona just an assessment of something that didnāt help the team. Crouchies seen it all and done it all and come out of it with a reasonably healthy amount of his sanity retained. His opinions are worthy of respect I reckon. So if Shaqiri comes out and replies every time the ball was played to Crouch he was 75% of the time offside youād think that was a fair reply? I'd accuse him of lying. It was more like 99% of the time.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 18, 2019 17:21:54 GMT
Crouch was one of the biggest football issues we've had the club since he signed. He never fitted in really and the better football was usually played when he was on the bench. Shaq and Pieters did way more us than he did. Once more, B/oatcake reaffirms that he's the biggest idiot on this forum. Ah yes the football was sparkling when Crouchy played. Aimless hoofs that heād invariably lose or flick on to no one. The football was usually dire when he played and he saw the back of TP and Hughes. Both resorted to him as a comfort blanket but it just meant awful football would continue as no one could resist the urge to whack it to his head. Heās a nice bloke but that shouldnāt cloud how he did for us.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 18, 2019 17:22:58 GMT
Shaq was the only good thing that season though. Iām sick of seeing the āgood old prosā blaming every other cunt. Iād cut Ndiaye some slack also Bayern Non entity level for me though. Unlike Zouma and JesĆ©.
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Post by wearepremierleague on Oct 18, 2019 17:34:32 GMT
Crouch and The rest of the squad can be thankful they had Shaqiri on their team that season or it would of been derby-esque
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Post by heworksardtho on Oct 18, 2019 17:41:23 GMT
Alpine Messi ..................poison dwarf š
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Post by PotterLog on Oct 18, 2019 17:46:26 GMT
The thing is none of that is mutually exclusive with what he's saying. I don't think he's even particularly "blaming" Shaqiri, it's just that if you have a player who is not putting the work in when you're in a dogfight, even if he's scoring goals, then there's going to be a resentment that contributes to the general malaise. A player can't help being crap, but he can help being idle. And let's face it it's always been an underlying issue with Shaq. It's why he's been basically discarded at Liverpool despite fitting their system well and good performances when he did play. Shaq was the only good thing that season though. Iām sick of seeing the āgood old prosā blaming every other cunt. I get that as well. I thought it was a complete piss-take when Adam came out with it on the radio.
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Post by harryburrows on Oct 18, 2019 17:49:19 GMT
Crouch was one of the biggest football issues we've had the club since he signed. He never fitted in really and the better football was usually played when he was on the bench. Shaq and Pieters did way more us than he did. Sorry mate that's bollocks
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Post by prettything on Oct 18, 2019 17:49:26 GMT
The whole slagging of Shaqiri in that relegation I have always found strange from the players. He clearly wanted to leave, but he still produced on the pitch. Barcelona dont expect Messi to track back and make tackles. What the hell is Shaqiri supposed to be doing? Ive always hated this view of Stoke being a working mens kind of club so we appreciate hardwork over skill and technique. Pure codswallop[/quote We arenāt Barcelona though, are we? Never were. Shaqiri could be a joy to watch, but there is a reason why he hasnāt made it at the top level. Super Jon was far more effective than Shaqiri ever was.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 18, 2019 17:55:56 GMT
Crouch was one of the biggest football issues we've had the club since he signed. He never fitted in really and the better football was usually played when he was on the bench. Shaq and Pieters did way more us than he did. Sorry mate that's bollocks How? He got TP the sack. We went from Walters and KJ to Crouch and Adam plodding around. Whenever Crouch would play we would slow right down and aimlessly hoof to him. He was never what we needed in his time here.
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Post by harryburrows on Oct 18, 2019 18:11:29 GMT
Sorry mate that's bollocks How? He got TP the sack. We went from Walters and KJ to Crouch and Adam plodding around. Whenever Crouch would play we would slow right down and aimlessly hoof to him. He was never what we needed in his time here. Crouch didn't get Pulis sacked did he . Crouch was a very good footballer , when he arrived probably the best at the club . He was a make weight in the palacios deal so we weren't signing a world class striker . Never the less he was a great buy imo for all his lack offf pace
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 18, 2019 18:14:15 GMT
How? He got TP the sack. We went from Walters and KJ to Crouch and Adam plodding around. Whenever Crouch would play we would slow right down and aimlessly hoof to him. He was never what we needed in his time here. Crouch didn't get Pulis sacked did he . Crouch was a very good footballer , when he arrived probably the best at the club . He was a make weight in the palacios deal so we weren't signing a world class striker . Never the less he was a great buy imo for all his lack offf pace I think it was the other way around!
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Post by harryburrows on Oct 18, 2019 18:17:07 GMT
Crouch didn't get Pulis sacked did he . Crouch was a very good footballer , when he arrived probably the best at the club . He was a make weight in the palacios deal so we weren't signing a world class striker . Never the less he was a great buy imo for all his lack offf pace I think it was the other way around! You may be right , I remember it as the othe way round .
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 18, 2019 18:23:23 GMT
How? He got TP the sack. We went from Walters and KJ to Crouch and Adam plodding around. Whenever Crouch would play we would slow right down and aimlessly hoof to him. He was never what we needed in his time here. Crouch didn't get Pulis sacked did he . Crouch was a very good footballer , when he arrived probably the best at the club . He was a make weight in the palacios deal so we weren't signing a world class striker . Never the less he was a great buy imo for all his lack offf pace He did. The board never liked the deal is what I was told. And even without that the football played because of Crouch being in the side totally got him the sack. We went from having a mobile and pretty quick side to him and Adam. The football was dire. And Crouch is a good footballer. Thereās no denying that but we didnāt really use that. The goals masked how detrimental he was to our overall play when he played. Again not his fault but it happened with all the managers here and him.
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Post by harryburrows on Oct 18, 2019 18:32:21 GMT
Crouch didn't get Pulis sacked did he . Crouch was a very good footballer , when he arrived probably the best at the club . He was a make weight in the palacios deal so we weren't signing a world class striker . Never the less he was a great buy imo for all his lack offf pace He did. The board never liked the deal is what I was told. And even without that the football played because of Crouch being in the side totally got him the sack. We went from having a mobile and pretty quick side to him and Adam. The football was dire. And Crouch is a good footballer. Thereās no denying that but we didnāt really use that. The goals masked how detrimental he was to our overall play when he played. Again not his fault but it happened with all the managers here and him. Hughes tried to replace him from day one but didn't manage it apart from a briefly successful run with odemwingie . I'm obviously not privi to all the going on in the Stoke boardroom so can't comment. But the summer before Pulis left he signed a dozen flops , crouch was the least of the problem
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 18, 2019 18:35:00 GMT
He did. The board never liked the deal is what I was told. And even without that the football played because of Crouch being in the side totally got him the sack. We went from having a mobile and pretty quick side to him and Adam. The football was dire. And Crouch is a good footballer. Thereās no denying that but we didnāt really use that. The goals masked how detrimental he was to our overall play when he played. Again not his fault but it happened with all the managers here and him. Hughes tried to replace him from day one but didn't manage it apart from a briefly successful run with odemwingie . I'm obviously not privi to all the going on in the Stoke boardroom so can't comment. But the summer before Pulis left he signed a dozen flops , couch was the least of the problem He did. Diouf. Diouf did more in than first season than Crouch ever did. Crouch was the epitome of the football that saw TP sacked. Slow, turgid, hit and hope for the best. He was never what we needed. Mystical on here did a great post at the time as to why we never needed him and it turned out to be spot on.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 18, 2019 19:11:45 GMT
I'm sick of the finger pointing of the whole bunch of feckless bastards involved in our relegation. Bunch of entitled twats to a man. Fuck off Crouch
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Post by iglugluk on Oct 18, 2019 20:19:57 GMT
Personally I like Peter Crouch and even if he was never a great fit for us I see no reason to doubt what he's written about Pieters and Shaq. It explains the fact Pieters was let go suddenly and without a backwards nod and it was also obvious Shaq was an arrogant player who could've been something really special whilst we had him but instead chose to be only good some of the time. It doesnt explain why we haven't brought in a decent new left back though so it's more than just a Hughes team building fuckup that's happened.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 18, 2019 20:22:25 GMT
Personally I like Peter Crouch and even if he was never a great fit for us I see no reason to doubt what he's written about Pieters and Shaq. It explains the fact Pieters was let go suddenly and without a backwards nod and it was also obvious Shaq was an arrogant player who could've been something really special whilst we had him but instead chose to be only good some of the time. It doesnt explain why we haven't brought in a decent new left back though so it's more than just a Hughes team building fuckup that's happened. Who actually gives a shit where he parked?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 18, 2019 20:52:50 GMT
How? He got TP the sack. We went from Walters and KJ to Crouch and Adam plodding around. Whenever Crouch would play we would slow right down and aimlessly hoof to him. He was never what we needed in his time here. Crouch didn't get Pulis sacked did he . Crouch was a very good footballer , when he arrived probably the best at the club . He was a make weight in the palacios deal so we weren't signing a world class striker . Never the less he was a great buy imo for all his lack offf pace After we signed him we went from playing the best football weād played since the seventies to being the lowest scorers in the entire 92. Thatās not a coincidence. He played his best football for us under Hughes but still probably wasnāt part of our best XI when everyone was fit.
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Post by tomcmod on Oct 18, 2019 21:07:55 GMT
Bloody Crouch, he says that shaq has gone past players then ran the width of the pitch and hasn't got back. Yet Crouchy would chase the keeper down(slowly) and still be off when the ball came back too. Massive pot calling the kettle black moment right there.
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Oct 18, 2019 21:10:40 GMT
Crouch didn't get Pulis sacked did he . Crouch was a very good footballer , when he arrived probably the best at the club . He was a make weight in the palacios deal so we weren't signing a world class striker . Never the less he was a great buy imo for all his lack offf pace He did. The board never liked the deal is what I was told. And even without that the football played because of Crouch being in the side totally got him the sack. We went from having a mobile and pretty quick side to him and Adam. The football was dire. And Crouch is a good footballer. Thereās no denying that but we didnāt really use that. The goals masked how detrimental he was to our overall play when he played. Again not his fault but it happened with all the managers here and him. It wasn't Crouch being in the side. It was a failure to replace Etherington and Pennant.
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