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Post by spitthedog on Oct 15, 2019 18:49:12 GMT
"That doesn’t mean we’re going to go public to fans to explain this is what we’re doing and how we’re doing it."
......which is a quite brilliant strategy, particularly when you don't know what you are doing, or how to do it!
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Post by PolPotter on Oct 15, 2019 18:52:32 GMT
We win one game and ark at him!
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Post by 4372stokie on Oct 15, 2019 18:58:43 GMT
What a pathetic post🤔The bloke is very lucky to still be employed by Stoke City FACT. As for “Tin pot Fifa playing wankers” I wouldn’t have a clue what you’re on about being 3/4 older than yourself🙄
FACT! There you go. I think you’ll find that whatever you say is an OPINION. It’s only a fact because you think it is.
Ps , you have no idea how old I am.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 15, 2019 19:01:08 GMT
What a pathetic post🤔The bloke is very lucky to still be employed by Stoke City FACT. As for “Tin pot Fifa playing wankers” I wouldn’t have a clue what you’re on about being 3/4 older than yourself🙄 FACT! There you go. I think you’ll find that whatever you say is an OPINION. It’s only a fact because you think it is. Ps , you have no idea how old I am. 17th September 1966 gives it away😄
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Post by chigstoke on Oct 15, 2019 19:10:38 GMT
Fucking know nowt, Tin Pot Fifa playing wankers on here do my nut in. They have absolutely no clue whatsoever at what goes on in running a football club. None. This board is their sole source of ‘information’ god help them. This guy is just a fall guy for their ignorance. He is like the victim of a knuckle dragging 19th Century Lynch Mob. This is the same guy who was in charge during the most successful period in recent times. The guy in charge during the signings of Criuch, Bojan, Shaqiri, Arnie. He can’t be held fully responsible for that period of success and can’t be held responsible for this period of shite. Get off the mob mentality and think for yourselves for a while. Brainwashed idiotic morons. I think you'll find he can be held responsible for this decline. Hes the one who not only counts the beans, but decides he handles transfer negotiations. He allowed Rowett, along with the board, to spend nearly £50 Million on shit to get back up. He didn't intervene on employing Paul fucking Lambert. He haggled over a pathetic £1 Million which meant Quique stayed at Espanyol. He decided to purposely fuck over Tony Pulis when asked to try for Tom Ince and Matty Phillips. We got Brek fucking Shea instead. He saw fit to allow the signings of Imbula, Jese and Wimmer which collectively signalled a death toll of Premier league Stoke City. He thinks its okay to treat the supporters council and the fans like pieces of shit and treats us all like fucking idiots. Provided an abysmal explanation for the service charges introduced on tickets as well as collection charges. An unsatisfactory outcome on the QPR ticket fiasco which should have been reimbursed by cash, not by fucking club credit for the shop or another match. But its alright, we've frozen season ticket prices for 11 years now and we've got free coach travel that is being subsidised now by the new ticket charges, making us suckers pay for it. What a fantastic CEO!
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Post by 4372stokie on Oct 15, 2019 19:26:10 GMT
17th September 1966 gives it away😄
😂 oh yeah..
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Post by awrypotter on Oct 15, 2019 19:28:36 GMT
He is pathetic. Not only as he overseen a dramatic failure in transfer negotiations but the whole match day experience at Stoke is abysmal. The way that supporters are treated is a disgrace. The sooner he goes the better. He's not a Stokie and doesn't care about Stoke, other than his oversized pay packet.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 15, 2019 19:32:23 GMT
Fucking know nowt, Tin Pot Fifa playing wankers on here do my nut in. They have absolutely no clue whatsoever at what goes on in running a football club. None. This board is their sole source of ‘information’ god help them. This guy is just a fall guy for their ignorance. He is like the victim of a knuckle dragging 19th Century Lynch Mob. This is the same guy who was in charge during the most successful period in recent times. The guy in charge during the signings of Criuch, Bojan, Shaqiri, Arnie. He can’t be held fully responsible for that period of success and can’t be held responsible for this period of shite. Get off the mob mentality and think for yourselves for a while. Brainwashed idiotic morons. I think you'll find he can be held responsible for this decline. Hes the one who not only counts the beans, but decides he handles transfer negotiations. He allowed Rowett, along with the board, to spend nearly £50 Million on shit to get back up. He didn't intervene on employing Paul fucking Lambert. He haggled over a pathetic £1 Million which meant Quique stayed at Espanyol. He decided to purposely fuck over Tony Pulis when asked to try for Tom Ince and Matty Phillips. We got Brek fucking Shea instead. He saw fit to allow the signings of Imbula, Jese and Wimmer which collectively signalled a death toll of Premier league Stoke City. He thinks its okay to treat the supporters council and the fans like pieces of shit and treats us all like fucking idiots. Provided an abysmal explanation for the service charges introduced on tickets as well as collection charges. An unsatisfactory outcome on the QPR ticket fiasco which should have been reimbursed by cash, not by fucking club credit for the shop or another match. But its alright, we've frozen season ticket prices for 11 years now and we've got free coach travel that is being subsidised now by the new ticket charges, making us suckers pay for it. What a fantastic CEO! You mention he allowed the signings of Imbula etc, so do you think he should be allowed to stop the manager signing the player he wants even if they are in budget, essentially having a say on who we sign? Personally I don't.
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Post by dreamtheater on Oct 15, 2019 20:08:34 GMT
Love to hear more from Tony Scholes. His latest quite nauseating drivel has resulted in a highly amusing thread ..just hope he offers a sincere prayer of thanks every single day he continues to stay in his job.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Oct 15, 2019 20:08:53 GMT
I really can’t understand the vitriol against this guy, he sincerely values and appreciates the supporter base and supporters council
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 15, 2019 20:14:04 GMT
Fucking know nowt, Tin Pot Fifa playing wankers on here do my nut in. They have absolutely no clue whatsoever at what goes on in running a football club. None. This board is their sole source of ‘information’ god help them. This guy is just a fall guy for their ignorance. He is like the victim of a knuckle dragging 19th Century Lynch Mob. This is the same guy who was in charge during the most successful period in recent times. The guy in charge during the signings of Criuch, Bojan, Shaqiri, Arnie. He can’t be held fully responsible for that period of success and can’t be held responsible for this period of shite. Get off the mob mentality and think for yourselves for a while. Brainwashed idiotic morons. That's lovely Tony.
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Post by sheriffofrockridge on Oct 15, 2019 20:51:10 GMT
Reportedly earning over £750k pa from Stoke City Good to know he's still £100K a year behind me. Every cloud.
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 15, 2019 21:03:06 GMT
I think you'll find he can be held responsible for this decline. Hes the one who not only counts the beans, but decides he handles transfer negotiations. He allowed Rowett, along with the board, to spend nearly £50 Million on shit to get back up. He didn't intervene on employing Paul fucking Lambert. He haggled over a pathetic £1 Million which meant Quique stayed at Espanyol. He decided to purposely fuck over Tony Pulis when asked to try for Tom Ince and Matty Phillips. We got Brek fucking Shea instead. He saw fit to allow the signings of Imbula, Jese and Wimmer which collectively signalled a death toll of Premier league Stoke City. He thinks its okay to treat the supporters council and the fans like pieces of shit and treats us all like fucking idiots. Provided an abysmal explanation for the service charges introduced on tickets as well as collection charges. An unsatisfactory outcome on the QPR ticket fiasco which should have been reimbursed by cash, not by fucking club credit for the shop or another match. But its alright, we've frozen season ticket prices for 11 years now and we've got free coach travel that is being subsidised now by the new ticket charges, making us suckers pay for it. What a fantastic CEO! You mention he allowed the signings of Imbula etc, so do you think he should be allowed to stop the manager signing the player he wants even if they are in budget, essentially having a say on who we sign? Personally I don't. He's a director on the board FFS should he be allowed to intervene regarding high profile high cost signings, well as he carries out the due diligence on these players including Berahino he has an obligation to intervene in the best interests of the club on such transfers, if not what is the point of him been at our club ? these high profile high cost complete fucking flops have fucked up our PL status and our future for the foreseeable future, yet this leech is still drawing the lifeblood from the dying corpse that is Stoke City FC where else would this twat still have a job ?
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Oct 15, 2019 21:09:36 GMT
Fucking know nowt, Tin Pot Fifa playing wankers on here do my nut in. They have absolutely no clue whatsoever at what goes on in running a football club. None. This board is their sole source of ‘information’ god help them. This guy is just a fall guy for their ignorance. He is like the victim of a knuckle dragging 19th Century Lynch Mob. This is the same guy who was in charge during the most successful period in recent times. The guy in charge during the signings of Criuch, Bojan, Shaqiri, Arnie. He can’t be held fully responsible for that period of success and can’t be held responsible for this period of shite. Get off the mob mentality and think for yourselves for a while. Brainwashed idiotic morons. I think you'll find he can be held responsible for this decline. Hes the one who not only counts the beans, but decides he handles transfer negotiations. He allowed Rowett, along with the board, to spend nearly £50 Million on shit to get back up. He didn't intervene on employing Paul fucking Lambert. He haggled over a pathetic £1 Million which meant Quique stayed at Espanyol. He decided to purposely fuck over Tony Pulis when asked to try for Tom Ince and Matty Phillips. We got Brek fucking Shea instead. He saw fit to allow the signings of Imbula, Jese and Wimmer which collectively signalled a death toll of Premier league Stoke City. He thinks its okay to treat the supporters council and the fans like pieces of shit and treats us all like fucking idiots. Provided an abysmal explanation for the service charges introduced on tickets as well as collection charges. An unsatisfactory outcome on the QPR ticket fiasco which should have been reimbursed by cash, not by fucking club credit for the shop or another match. But its alright, we've frozen season ticket prices for 11 years now and we've got free coach travel that is being subsidised now by the new ticket charges, making us suckers pay for it. What a fantastic CEO! Yeh but other than that what have the Romans ever done for us?
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Post by Gods on Oct 15, 2019 21:20:17 GMT
Fucking know nowt, Tin Pot Fifa playing wankers on here do my nut in. They have absolutely no clue whatsoever at what goes on in running a football club. None. This board is their sole source of ‘information’ god help them. This guy is just a fall guy for their ignorance. He is like the victim of a knuckle dragging 19th Century Lynch Mob. This is the same guy who was in charge during the most successful period in recent times. The guy in charge during the signings of Criuch, Bojan, Shaqiri, Arnie. He can’t be held fully responsible for that period of success and can’t be held responsible for this period of shite. Get off the mob mentality and think for yourselves for a while. Brainwashed idiotic morons. There is undeniably something in what you say. If you want to pin all our current woes at the door of Tony Scholes then you simply have no option but to recognise him as the architect of the good times which preceded them. For what its worth I don't think he is solely responsible for either, he's just a hired hand attempting to oversee the smooth running of the football club.
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 15, 2019 21:26:48 GMT
Fucking know nowt, Tin Pot Fifa playing wankers on here do my nut in. They have absolutely no clue whatsoever at what goes on in running a football club. None. This board is their sole source of ‘information’ god help them. This guy is just a fall guy for their ignorance. He is like the victim of a knuckle dragging 19th Century Lynch Mob. This is the same guy who was in charge during the most successful period in recent times. The guy in charge during the signings of Criuch, Bojan, Shaqiri, Arnie. He can’t be held fully responsible for that period of success and can’t be held responsible for this period of shite. Get off the mob mentality and think for yourselves for a while. Brainwashed idiotic morons. I think you'll find he can be held responsible for this decline. Hes the one who not only counts the beans, but decides he handles transfer negotiations. He allowed Rowett, along with the board, to spend nearly £50 Million on shit to get back up. He didn't intervene on employing Paul fucking Lambert. He haggled over a pathetic £1 Million which meant Quique stayed at Espanyol. He decided to purposely fuck over Tony Pulis when asked to try for Tom Ince and Matty Phillips. We got Brek fucking Shea instead. He saw fit to allow the signings of Imbula, Jese and Wimmer which collectively signalled a death toll of Premier league Stoke City. He thinks its okay to treat the supporters council and the fans like pieces of shit and treats us all like fucking idiots. Provided an abysmal explanation for the service charges introduced on tickets as well as collection charges. An unsatisfactory outcome on the QPR ticket fiasco which should have been reimbursed by cash, not by fucking club credit for the shop or another match. But its alright, we've frozen season ticket prices for 11 years now and we've got free coach travel that is being subsidised now by the new ticket charges, making us suckers pay for it. What a fantastic CEO! He can only be applauded for blocking the signings of Ince and Phillips while in the PL. Both are Championship players, and I question whether Ince is that.
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Post by robstokie on Oct 15, 2019 22:27:33 GMT
I think the real problem here started with complacency - complacency that we were an 'established' Premier League side and beyond the point where we would have to worry about survival first before pushing on again. That strand of thinking applied to all within in the club, from the top down. Add to that we looked to sign players who didn't have the right temperament for getting stuck in and doing the basics and who thought they were above graft (think the Imbulas, Wimmers and Berahinos for starters) and who came on big money deals with long contracts at around the same time the old guard who exemplified the character needed were on the way down and out, denial of issues behind the scenes followed by dithering/hoping the issues would resolve themselves and chucking good money after bad when the club realised that the issues were more intrusive than first thought, and it's been nearly 3 years of cluster fucks. Of course, Scholes has presided over this period of terminal decline which shows no sign of slowing down anytime soon (the Swansea win was a massive boost for all concerned, but when we haven't won a league game in 17 before that, it's unfortunately more likely that it was a one-off great performance, as great as it was unfortunately) and has to go - he does a lot of the day to day in the business, and any failure from those below him ultimately rests on him as their senior. In any other club or any other business, he would have been fucked off at the same time as Rowett at the very latest.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 15, 2019 23:48:57 GMT
You mention he allowed the signings of Imbula etc, so do you think he should be allowed to stop the manager signing the player he wants even if they are in budget, essentially having a say on who we sign? Personally I don't. He's a director on the board FFS should he be allowed to intervene regarding high profile high cost signings, well as he carries out the due diligence on these players including Berahino he has an obligation to intervene in the best interests of the club on such transfers, if not what is the point of him been at our club ? these high profile high cost complete fucking flops have fucked up our PL status and our future for the foreseeable future, yet this leech is still drawing the lifeblood from the dying corpse that is Stoke City FC where else would this twat still have a job ? So you think he should be choosing the players then, a bloke that should have nothing to do with team matters apart from those that affect the budget, great why not let him pick the match day squad too the fuck up signing those players can not be laid at his feet he should in no way have a say on the players that come into the club unless the reason is we can't afford them. Moaning about long contracts etc is fine be he's not the reason we signed shit players.
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Post by ceejays on Oct 16, 2019 5:28:37 GMT
The fact is he did try to pick the first team at Preston away last year. The Bauer affair. Why did pulis fall out with him ? Why did rowett fall out with him ? Why did Lambert alluded to the unprofessional way the club was run ? The buck stops at the top. Tony Scholes is a major reason for our predicament beyond any question. As many have said in any other company he would have been dismissed years ago .
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Post by NassauDave on Oct 16, 2019 5:59:58 GMT
Sooner this jackass is out of our club the better off it will be! Looks like he’s ‘touching cloth’ in that picture.....
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 16, 2019 6:02:24 GMT
He's a director on the board FFS should he be allowed to intervene regarding high profile high cost signings, well as he carries out the due diligence on these players including Berahino he has an obligation to intervene in the best interests of the club on such transfers, if not what is the point of him been at our club ? these high profile high cost complete fucking flops have fucked up our PL status and our future for the foreseeable future, yet this leech is still drawing the lifeblood from the dying corpse that is Stoke City FC where else would this twat still have a job ? So you think he should be choosing the players then, a bloke that should have nothing to do with team matters apart from those that affect the budget, great why not let him pick the match day squad too the fuck up signing those players can not be laid at his feet he should in no way have a say on the players that come into the club unless the reason is we can't afford them. Moaning about long contracts etc is fine be he's not the reason we signed shit players. I take it the alleged FFP implications we now face due to poor financial housekeeping affects the budget or should fcuking do are you saying that is nothing to do with our chief bean counter ?
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Post by owdestokie2 on Oct 16, 2019 7:18:31 GMT
Who was the architect of the recruitment strategy?
Who introduced and recruited a TD?
Who had ultimate responsibility for the “successful” implementation and management of the recruitment policy to provide for successful delivery of the strategy?
Was the strategy a success, where’s the TD, was the implemented policy a success?
What has been the cost of failure?
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Post by Davef on Oct 16, 2019 7:21:44 GMT
The fact is he did try to pick the first team at Preston away last year. Do you have any proof to back that claim up?
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Post by kristoff on Oct 16, 2019 7:28:37 GMT
Remember having dealings directly with him (thanks to tel2u) when we got promoted to the championship after my family were injured when our fans went mental at Ince in the corner.
Absolute snake oil salesman, made a thousand promises and assurances then vanished of the face of the earth and left it to some poor underling to inform us he wasn’t going through with any of his promises. That spineless he’d make a good politician
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Oct 16, 2019 7:32:19 GMT
Scholes is about as reliable as a 2nd.hand car dealer.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 16, 2019 7:50:28 GMT
The fact is he did try to pick the first team at Preston away last year. The Bauer affair. Why did pulis fall out with him ? Why did rowett fall out with him ? Why did Lambert alluded to the unprofessional way the club was run ? The buck stops at the top. Tony Scholes is a major reason for our predicament beyond any question. As many have said in any other company he would have been dismissed years ago . I can't stand the fucker but I wish he'd picked the team at Preston this frigging season!
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Post by StokeTudoGuy on Oct 16, 2019 8:45:57 GMT
"None of us is getting carried away!" As the sentence is prefaced by a plural, shouldn’t that be; None of us ARE getting carried away?
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 16, 2019 8:51:58 GMT
So you think he should be choosing the players then, a bloke that should have nothing to do with team matters apart from those that affect the budget, great why not let him pick the match day squad too the fuck up signing those players can not be laid at his feet he should in no way have a say on the players that come into the club unless the reason is we can't afford them. Moaning about long contracts etc is fine be he's not the reason we signed shit players. I take it the alleged FFP implications we now face due to poor financial housekeeping affects the budget or should fcuking do are you saying that is nothing to do with our chief bean counter ? That's a different argument completely and is nothing to do with what I've been saying.
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Post by onepara on Oct 16, 2019 9:10:56 GMT
"None of us is getting carried away!" Isn't that the sort of comment you make when you're top of the table with a bit of light between you and the rest of the pack, rather than when you're sitting at the foot of the table, with 5 points out of 33? 🤔 It means:- We aren't going to spend any money any time soon.
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Post by daveandeddy on Oct 16, 2019 10:00:24 GMT
I think it means they are keeping the lid on promotion talk.....for now. Ridiculous, we're going to piss this tinpot league! As Greavsie used to say " Its a funny old game"
Even me with a glass that's more than half full look on things I had a quick look at promo odds...... relegation odds are still ( as you would expect on a team at the bottom after 11 games ) around 11/4 / 3-1 - 4th favourites But promo odds at 50-1..... If we win on Saterdee with a good performance I will have a dip if it stays around the 33-1 mark. PS i'll get my coat !
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