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Post by Clayton Wood on Oct 14, 2019 20:38:29 GMT
Joe, this stopped being a football match ages ago. There's half an hour go yet. I still want a clean sheet Done Ozzy   |
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 14, 2019 20:39:42 GMT
Loads of them were in testimonials and friendlies though. And won 3 World Cups! He didn't play in the 62 final. Garrincha was better than him anyway😂 |
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 14, 2019 20:40:25 GMT
There's half an hour go yet. I still want a clean sheet Done Ozzy Yeeahss a good mornings work. 😉 |
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Post by liathroid on Oct 14, 2019 20:40:47 GMT
matched Scotland goal scoring heroics  |
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Post by musik on Oct 14, 2019 20:40:50 GMT
0-6
the end
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Post by PotteringThrough on Oct 14, 2019 20:41:31 GMT
The commentator here just said Ronaldo has scored his 700th goal. Only 6 players have managed that. He didn't say who they were. Pele scored over 1000. Didn't Romario claim the same as well? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 14, 2019 20:42:40 GMT
There was nothing implied. You were just being thick. Now stop this 😂 Just piss off Bayern, I honestly haven't met anyone as dim as you in my life, which is rather worrying. You literally asked why with no nuance or hidden message. Then you’ve gone into full on defensive have a go at me mode. Hilarious. Easier just to ignore it after you’ve said something as daft and it clearly is. |
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Post by borges on Oct 14, 2019 20:43:43 GMT
To play devil's advocate, would the England players have been subject to this sort of treatment if they hadn't been asked to talk about what they would do in the event of racist chanting? I know they're only trying to answer the questions put to them honestly and earnestly, but it hasn't proved to be particularly diplomatic and I feel that it's caused a lot of unnecessary bad blood ahead of what shouldn't have been a particularly high profile game. That's not to condone the actions of some of the Bulgarian fans tonight, or to say the England players have brought it on themselves, but I think the unsavoury elements in the crowd have played up to this reputation and have made the most of having the spotlight shone on them in the build up to the game. Sorry mate but there is no devils advocate to this. They're making racist chants. It's an absolute disgrace that this is happening in international football at the highest level. It needs stopping and ending now. Oh, absolutely. I'm not suggesting it's justified or legitimate, just asking whether it would have been so prominent tonight had it not been such a big talking point in the build up to the game. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2019 20:44:22 GMT
There was nothing implied. You were just being thick. Now stop this 😂 Just piss off Bayern, I honestly haven't met anyone as dim as you in my life, which is rather worrying. Save your expletives for this weeks beer and pizza orgy with Big To. |
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Post by Kilo on Oct 14, 2019 20:44:32 GMT
Your question was a daft one and had absolutely no relation to anything you’ve mentioned after it was highlighted as being really fucking stupid. The stupid thing is you actually thinking I don't know why a black player is being abused... I mean, that's total idiocy right there. You should take a second and have a think about what might or might not be implied within a message before immediately smashing a response. Well I read it as why Mings rather than the other black players but Bayern clearly knows exactly what goes on inside your mind. You should bow down to the clearly hugely intellectual mind that he posesses and apologise immediately. If you put him in a bad mood he's not gonna tell us what next week's lottery numbers are. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 14, 2019 20:46:43 GMT
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Post by Boothen on Oct 14, 2019 20:46:45 GMT
If that’s all it was Dave I’d agree but according to reporters there racist abuse is being aimed at Mings and Sterling as well as these pricks The ironic thing here is those dicks don't seem to understand that if they woke up tomorrow and it was 1938 again they'd be amongst the first in the queues for the showers. |
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Post by PotteringThrough on Oct 14, 2019 20:47:15 GMT
Sorry mate but there is no devils advocate to this. They're making racist chants. It's an absolute disgrace that this is happening in international football at the highest level. It needs stopping and ending now. Oh, absolutely. I'm not suggesting it's justified or legitimate, just asking whether it would have been so prominent tonight had it not been such a big talking point in the build up to the game. We've seen it a few times with England inh E last couple of years so I think it would. Those younger sections of the fans would've come to the game and done the same either way. However, I get your point now, I think ITV have picked up on it more and rightly so. They've shown it for what it is. |
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Post by GeneralFaye on Oct 14, 2019 20:47:16 GMT
The stupid thing is you actually thinking I don't know why a black player is being abused... I mean, that's total idiocy right there. You should take a second and have a think about what might or might not be implied within a message before immediately smashing a response. Well I read it as why Mings rather than the other black players but Bayern clearly knows exactly what goes on inside your mind. You should bow down to the clearly hugely intellectual mind that he posesses and apologise immediately. If you put him in a bad mood he's not gonna tell us what next week's lottery numbers are. Exactly |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 14, 2019 20:48:05 GMT
The stupid thing is you actually thinking I don't know why a black player is being abused... I mean, that's total idiocy right there. You should take a second and have a think about what might or might not be implied within a message before immediately smashing a response. Well I read it as why Mings rather than the other black players but Bayern clearly knows exactly what goes on inside your mind. You should bow down to the clearly hugely intellectual mind that he posesses and apologise immediately. If you put him in a bad mood he's not gonna tell us what next week's lottery numbers are. Sterling was getting abused too. And it’s a daft question even without that! Because it doesn’t matter who the player is. That’s the point that’s why it’s such a stupid question 🤦♂️ |
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Post by GeneralFaye on Oct 14, 2019 20:49:00 GMT
Just piss off Bayern, I honestly haven't met anyone as dim as you in my life, which is rather worrying. You literally asked why with no nuance or hidden message. Then you’ve gone into full on defensive have a go at me mode. Hilarious. Easier just to ignore it after you’ve said something as daft and it clearly is. I've explained what I meant because you jumped to the wrong conclusion. It's not "defensive" it's an explanation, one you've chosen to ignore because yet again you refuse to say you were wrong for doing so. Boring pal, how you keep up this routine is beyond me. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 14, 2019 20:52:43 GMT
You literally asked why with no nuance or hidden message. Then you’ve gone into full on defensive have a go at me mode. Hilarious. Easier just to ignore it after you’ve said something as daft and it clearly is. I've explained what I meant because you jumped to the wrong conclusion. It's not "defensive" it's an explanation, one you've chosen to ignore because yet again you refuse to say you were wrong for doing so. Boring pal, how you keep up this routine is beyond me. Your explanation is crap though. It just shows an ignorance if anything? |
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Post by PotteringThrough on Oct 14, 2019 20:55:30 GMT
You literally asked why with no nuance or hidden message. Then you’ve gone into full on defensive have a go at me mode. Hilarious. Easier just to ignore it after you’ve said something as daft and it clearly is. I've explained what I meant because you jumped to the wrong conclusion. It's not "defensive" it's an explanation, one you've chosen to ignore because yet again you refuse to say you were wrong for doing so. Boring pal, how you keep up this routine is beyond me. Hope you've got a quiet one at work tomorrow because this could go on for a while ... |
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Post by borges on Oct 14, 2019 20:56:16 GMT
Oh, absolutely. I'm not suggesting it's justified or legitimate, just asking whether it would have been so prominent tonight had it not been such a big talking point in the build up to the game. We've seen it a few times with England inh E last couple of years so I think it would. Those younger sections of the fans would've come to the game and done the same either way. However, I get your point now, I think ITV have picked up on it more and rightly so. They've shown it for what it is. Yeah, I think highlighting it when it does happen is always the right thing to do, and it's a fair point that England have also been subject to this sort of thing elsewhere even without as much focus on it in the build up to those games. |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Oct 14, 2019 20:56:37 GMT
UEFA have been turning a blind eye to this racist crap for years and are finally coming round to doing something about it. Bulgaria is a country with previous and I'm sure England have been tipped off by EUFA that if they were to make a stand they would back them. The England camp putting it out there that they'd be prepared to walk off is just giving everyone a heads up that they're prepared to be the team that goes along with EUFA's intent to ratchet up the sanctions. Everyone concerned knew what was going to happen. The zeig heiling racists turned up with every intention of abusing the black players and EUFA and England were prepared to make Bulgarian football pay the price. It could have been any one of a number of countries who would take the hit - and any nation who puts up with that crap deserves what they get. 40 years ago it would have been us. I think that's fair enough, but would UEFA would green light a team unilaterally walking off when they have protocols in place for the referee/UEFA officials to abandon the game? UEFA wouldn't green light that - an unscrupulous team needing a 1-0 win would pull a fast one. England knew full well that if they followed the protocol they wouldn't be penalised and EUFA were perfectly happy give England the go ahead to walk off to finally demonstrate they would back a team prepared to make a stand. The whole thing was stage managed - and fair play to all concerned - apart from the racist knobheads. |
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Post by PotteringThrough on Oct 14, 2019 21:04:10 GMT
I think that's fair enough, but would UEFA would green light a team unilaterally walking off when they have protocols in place for the referee/UEFA officials to abandon the game? UEFA wouldn't green light that - an unscrupulous team needing a 1-0 win would pull a fast one. England knew full well that if they followed the protocol they wouldn't be penalised and EUFA were perfectly happy give England the go ahead to walk off to finally demonstrate they would back a team prepared to make a stand. The whole thing was stage managed - and fair play to all concerned - apart from the racist knobheads. I know Wrighty isn't too happy with Greg Clarke but I think he's done a good thing. He has put the ball right in UEFAs court in respect of clarifying the protocols and what happens next. He's come out and publicly said why the "walk off" step wasn't introduced - it was because it wasn't "mass" racist chanting but isolated incidents. That means it was still happening and the officials were aware of it. What happens next sits with UEFA and how they punish Bulgaria and its troglodyte fans is the big step. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 14, 2019 21:17:20 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2019 21:32:59 GMT
Sorry mate but there is no devils advocate to this. They're making racist chants. It's an absolute disgrace that this is happening in international football at the highest level. It needs stopping and ending now. Oh, absolutely. I'm not suggesting it's justified or legitimate, just asking whether it would have been so prominent tonight had it not been such a big talking point in the build up to the game. The answer is likely yes. Ignoring civil rights abuses has never led to a reduction of their incidence, more just to a reduction of their reporting. |
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Post by lordb on Oct 14, 2019 21:42:24 GMT
Is it not time to throw repeat offenders out of UEFA?
Or at least a ban for a tournament or two?
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Post by werrington on Oct 14, 2019 21:50:12 GMT
Back in hotel at 1am
That was a surreal experience
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 14, 2019 21:52:23 GMT
Back in hotel at 1am That was a surreal experience I bet it was😮Did someone send you that footage you asked for? |
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Post by werrington on Oct 14, 2019 21:53:08 GMT
Back in hotel at 1am That was a surreal experience I bet it was😮Did someone send you that footage you asked for? Yes mate 👍 |
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Oct 14, 2019 21:53:43 GMT
Back in hotel at 1am That was a surreal experience Glad you’ve got in safe! |
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Post by GeneralFaye on Oct 14, 2019 21:57:38 GMT
I've explained what I meant because you jumped to the wrong conclusion. It's not "defensive" it's an explanation, one you've chosen to ignore because yet again you refuse to say you were wrong for doing so. Boring pal, how you keep up this routine is beyond me. Your explanation is crap though. It just shows an ignorance if anything? Ignorance? To who?.. Fuck me you've run up a cul-de-sac and twatted your head on the wall, repeatedly. |
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Oct 14, 2019 21:59:45 GMT
Raheem Sterling is becoming an icon, not just for his footballing abilities either. Exemplary tonight in every sense of the word, well done to all in the most difficult of circumstances.
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