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Post by PolPotter on Oct 11, 2019 20:37:20 GMT
England have been soulless since 1990. They surprised us in 1996 but after that it was the God awful Beckham era and very little to be proud about. Lat World Cup we played conference sides until the final.
I'd rather watch the Vale.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 11, 2019 20:37:26 GMT
And some think we’ve got a chance of winning the Euro’s😄 Why haven't we a chance? Not on the evidence of the last 2 performances no
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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 11, 2019 20:37:29 GMT
They passed us off the park. How Henderson earns a living at football is beyond me.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2019 20:38:30 GMT
First tournament qualifier defeat in ten years?
Alarm bells are ringing. We are starting to look sloppy, rag tag and complacent and the manager is starting to repeat the mistakes of those before him.
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Post by thisisouryear on Oct 11, 2019 20:39:57 GMT
We have seemed more prepared to protest than play football all week. Absolute disgusting performance and very unprofessional.
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Post by Boothen on Oct 11, 2019 20:40:36 GMT
First tournament qualifier defeat in ten years? And the last time we lost in a qualifier it was this referee too, he sent Robert Green off against Ukraine.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Oct 11, 2019 20:41:36 GMT
They passed us off the park. How Henderson earns a living at football is beyond me. He's a great afleat, innit!
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Post by mrcoke on Oct 11, 2019 20:42:49 GMT
Kane, Rose, and Rushford (did he run with the ball once?) are shadows of their former selves.
All the new players failed to justify the manager's faith in them and were all subbed.
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Post by chuckrocky on Oct 11, 2019 20:43:09 GMT
What we’d give to have a Scholes or Gerrard in this side.
Our midfield options are just woeful.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2019 20:43:40 GMT
The better team won tonight! No excuses!
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Post by dreamtheater on Oct 11, 2019 20:46:40 GMT
As a non fan that talks shyte (apparently)
They were beaten by a very ordinary football team tonight
and
I did actually point out the uselessness of a couple of 'certain' key players far earlier tonight who,
had key roles in that defeat
just saying like
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 11, 2019 20:48:35 GMT
What we’d give to have a Scholes or Gerrard in this side. Our midfield options are just woeful. Because they were so successful in an England shirt...
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 11, 2019 20:50:41 GMT
Leicester must be laughing their bollocks off receiving 80 million for Harry Maguire
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2019 20:51:16 GMT
Michael Keane is not an international centre half (not convinced Maguire is if I’m honest). Get Alexander-Arnold and Gomez playing next to each other in defence.
Jury is still out on Rice, Rashford has zero confidence, Rose was awful, in fact several of the squad just seem to be in really average form at the moment.
That was one of the limpest performances I’ve seen from England in a long time.....
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Post by lordb on Oct 11, 2019 20:51:30 GMT
Deserved defeat
Looking for a reaction v Bulgaria
I really don't like 4231, doesn't suit England.
Midfield is a muddle
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Post by meirman61 on Oct 11, 2019 20:51:53 GMT
All this pouncing about at the back, sometimes Pickford just launch it
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Post by chuckrocky on Oct 11, 2019 20:53:18 GMT
What we’d give to have a Scholes or Gerrard in this side. Our midfield options are just woeful. Because they were so successful in an England shirt... They were both part of England sides that massively underachieved. I’d still much rather be choosing from a pool of Scholes, Gerrard, Lampard and Butt than a pool of Henderson, Rice, Winks and Dier.
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Post by robwahlmann on Oct 11, 2019 21:02:36 GMT
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Oct 11, 2019 21:04:02 GMT
Boring as fuck as usual.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Oct 11, 2019 21:08:27 GMT
Bizarre team selection.
At the back he shouldn't be playing Keane, and trippier isn't good enough anymore.
Gomez and Alexander-Arnold should be in there.
And all year he's been getting the midfield wrong. Our best midfielder is Winks and I don't think he's started since we won in Spain. You can't play two plodders in midfield..henderson AND Rice. There's no balance. That's what he did against Holland and they played through midfield because we had no one getting on the ball and competing, we were too passive.
Henderson and Rice were terrible. We have to play Winks and integrate Maddison before next summer.
And play a settled back four.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Oct 11, 2019 21:08:47 GMT
England have been soulless since 1990. They surprised us in 1996 but after that it was the God awful Beckham era and very little to be proud about. Lat World Cup we played conference sides until the final. I'd rather watch the Vale. We didn't make the final, twas the semis. We'd have beaten France if we'd played them, but we didn't. The World Cup was ace last year. Euros will probably be a similar story. Won't play anyone good to the knockouts - I don't care. If we go out in the groups we deserve it, if we get to the semis we deserve it. Football is a simple game - score more than the other team and you win. I quite like watching England. Tonight was poor but normally I enjoy the pace and attacking approach we adopt.
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Post by sportsman on Oct 11, 2019 21:09:21 GMT
I dont think there's a player out there tonight who's on form for their club. Maybe one or two have been ok.
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Post by thisisouryear on Oct 11, 2019 21:09:49 GMT
Michael Keane is not an international centre half (not convinced Maguire is if I’m honest). Get Alexander-Arnold and Gomez playing next to each other in defence. Jury is still out on Rice, Rashford has zero confidence, Rose was awful, in fact several of the squad just seem to be in really average form at the moment. That was one of the limpest performances I’ve seen from England in a long time..... It's hard to judge Maguire, he obviously has some good strengths but being stuck between Keane and Rose wouldn't have been easy for anyone tonight. Rice is shit, Rashford is a welbeck clone and the Liverpool players should be 1st on the sheet.
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Post by PolPotter on Oct 11, 2019 21:12:55 GMT
England have been soulless since 1990. They surprised us in 1996 but after that it was the God awful Beckham era and very little to be proud about. Lat World Cup we played conference sides until the final. I'd rather watch the Vale. We didn't make the final, twas the semis. We'd have beaten France if we'd played them, but we didn't. The World Cup was ace last year. Euros will probably be a similar story. Won't play anyone good to the knockouts - I don't care. If we go out in the groups we deserve it, if we get to the semis we deserve it. Football is a simple game - score more than the other team and you win. I quite like watching England. Tonight was poor but normally I enjoy the pace and attacking approach we adopt. It was the emi , you are correct. The key on my laptop i intermittently not work. Cheer . Bollok to England.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Oct 11, 2019 21:16:08 GMT
I dont think there's a player out there tonight who's on form for their club. Maybe one or two have been ok. Mount, Sterling, Sancho, Trippier and Henderson - I'd suggest those 5 on good form, the other 6 poor form all things considered. Sancho and Trippier - I've not seen them only the highlight but Trippier has been good according to reports and Sancho is still scoring and creating. The other 3 have started the season well from what I've seen (MOTD and the odd live game). That said I wouldn't be starting Trippier or Mount so god knows what I'm going on about.
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Post by GoBoks on Oct 11, 2019 21:18:06 GMT
How much did you lose? You should know by now that England is the international version of Stoke City!
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Post by PotteringThrough on Oct 11, 2019 21:21:05 GMT
We didn't make the final, twas the semis. We'd have beaten France if we'd played them, but we didn't. The World Cup was ace last year. Euros will probably be a similar story. Won't play anyone good to the knockouts - I don't care. If we go out in the groups we deserve it, if we get to the semis we deserve it. Football is a simple game - score more than the other team and you win. I quite like watching England. Tonight was poor but normally I enjoy the pace and attacking approach we adopt. It was the emi , you are correct. The key on my laptop i intermittently not work. Cheer . Bollok to England. You should buy a new one *you boring old trout*. (*Sorry my key pad adds extra words to sentences - I should also buy a new one)
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Post by gogogadget on Oct 11, 2019 21:22:20 GMT
How did we go on
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Post by lordb on Oct 11, 2019 21:48:37 GMT
Bizarre team selection. At the back he shouldn't be playing Keane, and trippier isn't good enough anymore. Gomez and Alexander-Arnold should be in there. And all year he's been getting the midfield wrong. Our best midfielder is Winks and I don't think he's started since we won in Spain. You can't play two plodders in midfield..henderson AND Rice. There's no balance. That's what he did against Holland and they played through midfield because we had no one getting on the ball and competing, we were too passive. Henderson and Rice were terrible. We have to play Winks and integrate Maddison before next summer. And play a settled back four. Agree with all that However Foden is the best prospect, he's better than all of them
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 11, 2019 21:57:43 GMT
I'm not that surprised by this. The signs were there against Kosovo. Flaky defending and slack passing.
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