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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2019 21:07:57 GMT
Respectfully I think one or two of you are easily impressed. Verlinden was mainly invisible, and (apart from a couple of flicks were were a good idea but didn't pay off) was pretty poor. He was lucky not to be sent off after a moment or two of high petulance. He reminds me a bit of Ben Marshall, though on this display Marshall was rather better. Agree to be honest. Harsh to take anything from one game, and I don't think it's an indicator of his overall talent, but he did struggle to make any worthwhile mark tonight.
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 7, 2019 21:08:55 GMT
League One is dreadful. I don’t understand why some people are so happy for us to risk relegation. I really don’t understand what Verlinden is supposed to do in a game like this. Neither team even look like they are trying to win this. It's pretty simple... he needs to put in Ronaldinho-esq performances time and time again for Bolton Wanderers before a Stoke fan will give him a scintilla of praise. Meanwhile Lee Gregory runs a lot......
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2019 21:14:29 GMT
League One is dreadful. I don’t understand why some people are so happy for us to risk relegation. I really don’t understand what Verlinden is supposed to do in a game like this. Neither team even look like they are trying to win this. It's pretty simple... he needs to put in Ronaldinho-esq performances time and time again for Bolton Wanderers before a Stoke fan will give him a scintilla of praise. Meanwhile Lee Gregory runs a lot...... Says a lot really doesn’t it, when he’d rather go there than stay with us...
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Post by Vermelho20312505 on Oct 7, 2019 21:44:23 GMT
League One is dreadful. I don’t understand why some people are so happy for us to risk relegation. I really don’t understand what Verlinden is supposed to do in a game like this. Neither team even look like they are trying to win this. Can you point me to these people who are happy to risk relegation?
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Post by jeycov on Oct 7, 2019 21:50:19 GMT
Most important is he is getting game time Whether he comes back to us in January or beyond may be decided by any outgoings in the next transfer window In theory we are trying to reduce our squad members
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Post by krimzon on Oct 7, 2019 22:20:09 GMT
Your man is a twinkle toes no doubt . He is trying to hard to show the world (well league 1) that he is above this level , which he clearly is , however he is trying too hard and gets caught out too much . But as an attacking force he is one of our best players in a brand new team of freebies and loans .
He will go on to better things once he knuckles down and realises he is not JJ Okocha and at league 1 you dont need to impress the crowd just do what you are good at . Hope its with you . You have a real talent on your hands .
BTW is the animosity between the clubs over ? its not like we will play each other anytime soon ?
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Post by bertiestan on Oct 7, 2019 22:23:49 GMT
Your man is a twinkle toes no doubt . He is trying to hard to show the world (well league 1) that he is above this level , which he clearly is , however he is trying too hard and gets caught out too much . But as an attacking force he is one of our best players in a brand new team of freebies and loans . He will go on to better things once he knuckles down and realises he is not JJ Okocha and at league 1 you dont need to impress the crowd just do what you are good at . Hope its with you . You have a real talent on your hands . BTW is the animosity between the clubs over ? its not like we will play each other anytime soon ? Never really known of much animosity between us tbh mate....but with regards to Verlinden we have high hopes for him👍🏻
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Post by krimzon on Oct 7, 2019 22:38:10 GMT
Your man is a twinkle toes no doubt . He is trying to hard to show the world (well league 1) that he is above this level , which he clearly is , however he is trying too hard and gets caught out too much . But as an attacking force he is one of our best players in a brand new team of freebies and loans . He will go on to better things once he knuckles down and realises he is not JJ Okocha and at league 1 you dont need to impress the crowd just do what you are good at . Hope its with you . You have a real talent on your hands . BTW is the animosity between the clubs over ? its not like we will play each other anytime soon ? Never really known of much animosity between us tbh mate....but with regards to Verlinden we have high hopes for him👍🏻 totally agree , we are not rivals . Cant really speak before the early 90's when we ran the gauntlet every time we came down then getting ambushed from your rivals .
I was there when we both went up together and I still to this day swear I will never see anything like , the stoke fans cheering a bolton goal and the bolton fans responding by singing delilah . But then there was the spanking at wembley we got and it all went a bit sour .
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 8, 2019 2:05:14 GMT
shit game but I've seen worse
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2019 6:19:21 GMT
League One is dreadful. I don’t understand why some people are so happy for us to risk relegation. I really don’t understand what Verlinden is supposed to do in a game like this. Neither team even look like they are trying to win this. Can you point me to these people who are happy to risk relegation? There are loads saying I’d rather stick with Jones even if we get relegated.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Oct 8, 2019 6:35:48 GMT
If Verlinden was only half as good as he is,he would still be twice as good as McClean.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2019 6:53:01 GMT
There are a few things that should send out alarm bells here.
1) Verlinden wanted to go out on loan in the first place. 2) Only Bolton wanted him or could guarantee him game time. 3) He isn't ripping up any trees.
Point one tells us there is limited pathway for young lads here. Point two tells us what the outside world think of the player, given only a club in complete meltdown wanted him. Point three tells us he isn't as good as we thought.
Any player looking to make a name for himself at a Championship club should really go into League One and hit the ground running. If he isn't, then his development is way behind what it should be.
It will be interesting to see what happens to him for the rest of the season.
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Post by lordb on Oct 8, 2019 7:22:24 GMT
There are a few things that should send out alarm bells here. 1) Verlinden wanted to go out on loan in the first place. 2) Only Bolton wanted him or could guarantee him game time. 3) He isn't ripping up any trees. Point one tells us there is limited pathway for young lads here. Point two tells us what the outside world think of the player, given only a club in complete meltdown wanted him. Point three tells us he isn't as good as we thought. Any player looking to make a name for himself at a Championship club should really go into League One and hit the ground running. If he isn't, then his development is way behind what it should be. It will be interesting to see what happens to him for the rest of the season. Got to dispute point three He was excellent for Bolton in other games so much so that opposition fans have been raving about him. As the Bolton fan states he's trying to hard, like many a talented player ( e.g Kavanagh) sometimes it takes a while before they realise it's the simple things they need to concentrate on, the quick short pass is often the best one.
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Post by leicspotter on Oct 8, 2019 8:25:08 GMT
I'm not seeing it at all fella's. He's been pretty average and could easily have got himself sent off. Twice. He was like that pre-season at Lincoln. Had it not been a friendly he would have been sent off...seems to have a very big ego...needs the talent to match it. A bit like Ince, Thibauld is a good player who thinks he is a great player...has a lot to learn, so hopefully he will do that with Bolton.
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Post by Vermelho20312505 on Oct 8, 2019 13:25:38 GMT
Can you point me to these people who are happy to risk relegation? There are loads saying I’d rather stick with Jones even if we get relegated. Really?! Genuinely haven't seen that. I've seen people saying they want to stick with Jones because they believe it is the right decision for the club.
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Post by spitthedog on Oct 8, 2019 14:59:37 GMT
Having seen him now just a couple of times for Bolton (as well as Stoke games), it be useful for Verlinden if he could learn to do some very simple & effective things well.
It looks like he's always trying the Messi option.....but just one problem...........he ain't Messi!
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Post by stokest5 on Oct 8, 2019 21:39:35 GMT
There are a few things that should send out alarm bells here. 1) Verlinden wanted to go out on loan in the first place. 2) Only Bolton wanted him or could guarantee him game time. 3) He isn't ripping up any trees. Point one tells us there is limited pathway for young lads here. Point two tells us what the outside world think of the player, given only a club in complete meltdown wanted him. Point three tells us he isn't as good as we thought. Any player looking to make a name for himself at a Championship club should really go into League One and hit the ground running. If he isn't, then his development is way behind what it should be. It will be interesting to see what happens to him for the rest of the season. Got to dispute point three He was excellent for Bolton in other games so much so that opposition fans have been raving about him. As the Bolton fan states he's trying to hard, like many a talented player ( e.g Kavanagh) sometimes it takes a while before they realise it's the simple things they need to concentrate on, the quick shirt pass is often the best one. I pointed out on another thread a few weeks ago stats say otherwise more very average than excellent.
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Post by lordb on Oct 9, 2019 11:10:11 GMT
Got to dispute point three He was excellent for Bolton in other games so much so that opposition fans have been raving about him. As the Bolton fan states he's trying to hard, like many a talented player ( e.g Kavanagh) sometimes it takes a while before they realise it's the simple things they need to concentrate on, the quick shirt pass is often the best one. I pointed out on another thread a few weeks ago stats say otherwise more very average than excellent. OK seen enough of him to know he is a very talented player Would suggest he's not played enough 1st team games for the stats to be definitive.
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Post by stokest5 on Oct 9, 2019 18:36:14 GMT
I pointed out on another thread a few weeks ago stats say otherwise more very average than excellent. OK seen enough of him to know he is a very talented player Would suggest he's not played enough 1st team games for the stats to be definitive. No doubt he’s a talented player and personally I would have like him to stay and push for the 1 team here but on the previous thread some posters were saying he’s taking the league by storm and ripping up trees but he’s not.
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Post by krimzon on Oct 11, 2019 19:48:38 GMT
OK seen enough of him to know he is a very talented player Would suggest he's not played enough 1st team games for the stats to be definitive. No doubt he’s a talented player and personally I would have like him to stay and push for the 1 team here but on the previous thread some posters were saying he’s taking the league by storm and ripping up trees but he’s not. He is definitely NOT ripping up trees , however his talent is lightyears above league one . Personally I think the step down in league is working against him, he is the most talented player in the division and knows it . When hes on it nobody can touch him , but league 1 players are more likely to kick you for trying to make them look bad and as yet he is not messi/ronaldo et al to dance around it , so somebody i.e. Keith Hill needs to sit him down and tell him how to play whilst still bringing the best out of him . If that can be done then you will have a hell of a player on your books . But Im sure we all have cases of the biggest talent not making it for not having an "old head on young shoulders" or the equivalent cliche.
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Post by upthefud on Oct 15, 2019 8:17:35 GMT
League One is dreadful. I don’t understand why some people are so happy for us to risk relegation. I really don’t understand what Verlinden is supposed to do in a game like this. Neither team even look like they are trying to win this. It's pretty simple... he needs to put in Ronaldinho-esq performances time and time again for Bolton Wanderers before a Stoke fan will give him a scintilla of praise. Meanwhile Lee Gregory runs a lot...... If we had more players like Lee Gregory we wouldn’t be where we are now. I’ve never seen a set of fans have as much patience with a player as we did with Bojan You talk out of your arse on a regular basis
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2019 11:06:29 GMT
It's pretty simple... he needs to put in Ronaldinho-esq performances time and time again for Bolton Wanderers before a Stoke fan will give him a scintilla of praise. Meanwhile Lee Gregory runs a lot...... If we had more players like Lee Gregory we wouldn’t be where we are now. I’ve never seen a set of fans have as much patience with a player as we did with Bojan You talk out of your arse on a regular basis That would be the Lee Gregory who can't hit a barn door ?
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