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Post by bigjohnritchie on Feb 17, 2020 17:58:33 GMT
That's was my point a few posts back Craig. Obviously a decision has been made high up in the Police on how to Police XR in Cambridge. I'm sure that the strategy is based upon a political decision. On the road closures it could seem that the Police are assisting XR in their protest. Part of the strategy of XR IS to get arrested.... On the University Lawn I guess that the authorities don't want to be seen to disagree with the " cause" so haven't actually made a complaint.....following through with the logic of this it seems to me that if enough( does the number matter...just " one"?) people have a concern they can cause disruption/ criminal damage/ obstruction...and the authorities are saying " that's ok then" How to win friends and influence people 🙄.......( "we're not trying to do that"!) With you all the way on this one. Geoff
I've got it now Craig
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Post by partickpotter on Feb 17, 2020 18:05:36 GMT
Population is not increasing because there are too many births - the reality is birth rates have fallen substantially in the past 50 years. Population is increasing because child mortality has been reduced and people live longer. Tough to know what to do with that reality. I think that Population matters are saying that people in developing countries are still having too many births....the reasons may be lack of development( they are not blaming them and they recognise at the moment they are not the major consumers)....as I understand it. Indeed in more developed countries the birthrate has decreased and longevity increased....the victim of our own success. ............ I think...I don't claim to know...nor know the solutions.....I just think that there are too many people on the planet for it to be sustainable...perhaps an obvious, useless piece of information.....but it might be the elephant in the room They are wrong. Check this brilliant video (appreciate it is a long one - but it addresses this point and several other misplaced preconceptions about the developing world)
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 17, 2020 18:06:44 GMT
There are so many ways than can protest but we're looking at common vandals. Scum. It isn't just a piece of grass it's a heritage site but they don't really give a shit do they? You should be worried they're draining every bit of sympathy out of the cause. Thick, the lot of them. It's a patch of grass. People are trying their best to dislike ER over anything. Taken from the Express: not my work. Meanwhile another perplexed user wrote: “Confused about #ExtinctionRebellion - giant plastic banners, plastic bags all over waterloo bridge, plastic gazebos to keep them dry, graffiti from aerosols, even seen them drinking from plastic water bottles.”
Whilst a third user said: “It’s difficult to take the Extinction Rebellion seriously as they carry their single use plastic water bottles around in plastic bags, drink coffee from disposable cups and discard them into the street.
seems more about getting their own way yet again.
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Post by felonious on Feb 17, 2020 18:06:51 GMT
There are so many ways than can protest but we're looking at common vandals. Scum. It isn't just a piece of grass it's a heritage site but they don't really give a shit do they? You should be worried they're draining every bit of sympathy out of the cause. Thick, the lot of them. It's a patch of grass. People are trying their best to dislike ER over anything. They have absolutely no respect for anything, property, people, etc they're going to be despised by the general public and they'll lose every last ounce of sympathy for the cause. I've been to the "patch of grass" on more than a few occasions and so have many people from this country and across the world. I suspect the authorities at the college have come to some arrangement from these vandals to avoid further issues and to no doubt avoid further intimidation. Scum it's quite simple.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Feb 17, 2020 18:08:39 GMT
I think that Population matters are saying that people in developing countries are still having too many births....the reasons may be lack of development( they are not blaming them and they recognise at the moment they are not the major consumers)....as I understand it. Indeed in more developed countries the birthrate has decreased and longevity increased....the victim of our own success. ............ I think...I don't claim to know...nor know the solutions.....I just think that there are too many people on the planet for it to be sustainable...perhaps an obvious, useless piece of information.....but it might be the elephant in the room They are wrong. Check this brilliant video (appreciate it is a long one - but it addresses this point and several other misplaced preconceptions about the developing world) I will do later....but I can't really see me changing my mind on the fact that the world population has grown exponentially since 1800, for whatever reasons, and it has had a major impact upon sustainabilityof and will do so in future projections.
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Post by vokeswagen on Feb 17, 2020 18:17:32 GMT
It's a patch of grass. People are trying their best to dislike ER over anything. Taken from the Express: not my work. Meanwhile another perplexed user wrote: “Confused about #ExtinctionRebellion - giant plastic banners, plastic bags all over waterloo bridge, plastic gazebos to keep them dry, graffiti from aerosols, even seen them drinking from plastic water bottles.”
Whilst a third user said: “It’s difficult to take the Extinction Rebellion seriously as they carry their single use plastic water bottles around in plastic bags, drink coffee from disposable cups and discard them into the street.
seems more about getting their own way yet again.
"Taken from the Express". That'll be utter bollocks then 😂
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Post by Clayton Wood on Feb 17, 2020 18:18:27 GMT
If they are so bothered why don't they put their XR T-shirts on, go to Nantgarw, Hereford, York etc and help the poor bastards clear the shit out of their houses left by the floods?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2020 18:21:00 GMT
It's a patch of grass. People are trying their best to dislike ER over anything. Taken from the Express: not my work. Meanwhile another perplexed user wrote: “Confused about #ExtinctionRebellion - giant plastic banners, plastic bags all over waterloo bridge, plastic gazebos to keep them dry, graffiti from aerosols, even seen them drinking from plastic water bottles.”
Whilst a third user said: “It’s difficult to take the Extinction Rebellion seriously as they carry their single use plastic water bottles around in plastic bags, drink coffee from disposable cups and discard them into the street.
seems more about getting their own way yet again.
I have said so many times the exact same thing. The entire point of Extinction Rebellion is that the problem here is not with individuals, but with large scale corporate and governmental lack of care.70% of all emissions are from 100 companies. The whole idea is that blaming people for driving big cars or drinking from plastic straws is not helpful. The burden lies with large scale change in corporate and governmental policy. Therefore, trying to do a 'gotcha' because they were wearing a plastic poncho is not really anywhere near the point.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Feb 17, 2020 18:31:40 GMT
They are wrong. Check this brilliant video (appreciate it is a long one - but it addresses this point and several other misplaced preconceptions about the developing world) I will do later....but I can't really see me changing my mind on the fact that the world population has grown exponentially since 1800, for whatever reasons, and it has had a major impact upon sustainabilityof and will do so in future projections. I think this perfectly illustrates the point you are making.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 17, 2020 18:35:22 GMT
Taken from the Express: not my work. Meanwhile another perplexed user wrote: “Confused about #ExtinctionRebellion - giant plastic banners, plastic bags all over waterloo bridge, plastic gazebos to keep them dry, graffiti from aerosols, even seen them drinking from plastic water bottles.”
Whilst a third user said: “It’s difficult to take the Extinction Rebellion seriously as they carry their single use plastic water bottles around in plastic bags, drink coffee from disposable cups and discard them into the street.
seems more about getting their own way yet again.
I have said so many times the exact same thing. The entire point of Extinction Rebellion is that the problem here is not with individuals, but with large scale corporate and governmental lack of care.70% of all emissions are from 100 companies. The whole idea is that blaming people for driving big cars or drinking from plastic straws is not helpful. The burden lies with large scale change in corporate and governmental policy. Therefore, trying to do a 'gotcha' because they were wearing a plastic poncho is not really anywhere near the point. The point is these people are massive hypocrites attacking others whilst causing pollution themselves as I said it appears to be more of a case of wanting their own way, it has become a trait recently with the snowflakes.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2020 18:36:39 GMT
I have said so many times the exact same thing. The entire point of Extinction Rebellion is that the problem here is not with individuals, but with large scale corporate and governmental lack of care.70% of all emissions are from 100 companies. The whole idea is that blaming people for driving big cars or drinking from plastic straws is not helpful. The burden lies with large scale change in corporate and governmental policy. Therefore, trying to do a 'gotcha' because they were wearing a plastic poncho is not really anywhere near the point. The point is these people are massive hypocrites attacking others whilst causing pollution themselves as I said it appears to be more of a case of wanting their own way, it has become a trait recently with the snowflakes. They are attacking big corporations for causing large scale climate disruption. I've just described this above, if you don't get it don't reply. You seem to be more upset about this than most of those you call 'snowflakes'. Hypocrisy indeed.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 17, 2020 18:47:09 GMT
The point is these people are massive hypocrites attacking others whilst causing pollution themselves as I said it appears to be more of a case of wanting their own way, it has become a trait recently with the snowflakes. They are attacking big corporations for causing large scale climate disruption. I've just described this above, if you don't get it don't reply. You seem to be more upset about this than most of those you call 'snowflakes'. Hypocrisy indeed. Which big corporations did they attack ?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2020 18:50:45 GMT
They are attacking big corporations for causing large scale climate disruption. I've just described this above, if you don't get it don't reply. You seem to be more upset about this than most of those you call 'snowflakes'. Hypocrisy indeed. Which big corporations did they attack ? Off the top of my head, Barclays, PwC, NewsCorp, Shell, BP, HSBC.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Feb 17, 2020 19:00:08 GMT
If they are so bothered why don't they put their XR T-shirts on, go to Nantgarw, Hereford, York etc and help the poor bastards clear the shit out of their houses left by the floods? No takers? OK, I'll answer my own question. These shit stains don't give a toss about the environment per se. They hang on any 'acceptable' cause to peddle their extremist views. Mum tied herself to Greenham Common, Dad was a hunt saboteur etc. If they gave a shit they'd be in front of the worlds media shovelling shit out of someone front door in a flood hit area saying 'this is the result of our actions' not digging up carbon neutral grass and saying plant less environmentally efficient bulbs. Knuckle draggers the lot of them.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 17, 2020 19:11:08 GMT
Which big corporations did they attack ? Off the top of my head, Barclays, PwC, NewsCorp, Shell, BP, HSBC. Wow didn't they do well ! how has it disrupted these polluters, I must withdraw my money from Barclays, stop buying fuel from BP and Shell that will teach them
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Post by starkiller on Feb 17, 2020 19:16:53 GMT
They are employed (yes, paid) to vandalise and cause a nuisance.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2020 19:18:26 GMT
Off the top of my head, Barclays, PwC, NewsCorp, Shell, BP, HSBC. Wow didn't they do well ! how has it disrupted these polluters, I must withdraw my money from Barclays, stop buying fuel from BP and Shell that will teach them I'm not sure what your point is. They haven't made sweeping changes yet, which is exactly why Extinction Rebellion protests are so important. Downing Street protests especially will hopefully lead to huge regulation on these companies.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 17, 2020 19:28:56 GMT
Wow didn't they do well ! how has it disrupted these polluters, I must withdraw my money from Barclays, stop buying fuel from BP and Shell that will teach them I'm not sure what your point is. They haven't made sweeping changes yet, which is exactly why Extinction Rebellion protests are so important. Downing Street protests especially will hopefully lead to huge regulation on these companies. This is taking a familiar tone, Marxism will eventually take over the World, climate change protesters will eventually make a massive difference all over the World ! not sure you are right myself on either claim but we will see or not as the case may be, if I was a betting man I wouldn't back any of your predictions going on your past tips.
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Post by Eggybread on Feb 17, 2020 19:31:09 GMT
Off the top of my head, Barclays, PwC, NewsCorp, Shell, BP, HSBC. Wow didn't they do well ! how has it disrupted these polluters, I must withdraw my money from Barclays, stop buying fuel from BP and Shell that will teach them Cyber attacks cost companies billions.
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Post by numpty40 on Feb 17, 2020 19:32:36 GMT
There are so many ways than can protest but we're looking at common vandals. Scum. It isn't just a piece of grass it's a heritage site but they don't really give a shit do they? You should be worried they're draining every bit of sympathy out of the cause. Thick, the lot of them. It's a patch of grass. People are trying their best to dislike ER over anything. Would you be so blasé if it was your front lawn that some fucker dug up
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2020 19:33:41 GMT
I'm not sure what your point is. They haven't made sweeping changes yet, which is exactly why Extinction Rebellion protests are so important. Downing Street protests especially will hopefully lead to huge regulation on these companies. This is taking a familiar tone, Marxism will eventually take over the World, climate change protesters will eventually make a massive difference all over the World ! not sure you are right myself on either claim but we will see or not as the case may be, if I was a betting man I wouldn't back any of your predictions going on your past tips. I have at no point in that even slightly mentioned anything to do with Marx. I don't think they will work. I don't think anything will work. I think we'll suffer extreme consequences, lots of people will die, and there will be some sort of riots/war in the next 100 years. Companies don't want to lose money and fix the problem, they'd rather pretend it doesn't exist. See any petrochemical company in the past 50 years. They've known since the 70s and purposefully eradicated and falsified evidence. They should be tried and sentenced for serious crimes for the deaths they have caused and will cause.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2020 19:34:58 GMT
It's a patch of grass. People are trying their best to dislike ER over anything. Would you be so blasé if it was your front lawn that some fucker dug up Probably not but I'm not backing and funding a major lorry park to be built either.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Feb 17, 2020 19:35:13 GMT
Wow didn't they do well ! how has it disrupted these polluters, I must withdraw my money from Barclays, stop buying fuel from BP and Shell that will teach them Cyber attacks cost companies billions. And shut down the NHS
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 17, 2020 19:36:38 GMT
Wow didn't they do well ! how has it disrupted these polluters, I must withdraw my money from Barclays, stop buying fuel from BP and Shell that will teach them Cyber attacks cost companies billions. They could do that from the comfort of whatever hole they live in.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 17, 2020 19:39:15 GMT
This is taking a familiar tone, Marxism will eventually take over the World, climate change protesters will eventually make a massive difference all over the World ! not sure you are right myself on either claim but we will see or not as the case may be, if I was a betting man I wouldn't back any of your predictions going on your past tips. I have at no point in that even slightly mentioned anything to do with Marx. I don't think they will work. I don't think anything will work. I think we'll suffer extreme consequences, lots of people will die, and there will be some sort of riots/war in the next 100 years. Companies don't want to lose money and fix the problem, they'd rather pretend it doesn't exist. See any petrochemical company in the past 50 years. They've known since the 70s and purposefully eradicated and falsified evidence. They should be tried and sentenced for serious crimes for the deaths they have caused and will cause. Do you drive or use any form of transport that uses fuel derived from crude oil ?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2020 19:41:39 GMT
I have at no point in that even slightly mentioned anything to do with Marx. I don't think they will work. I don't think anything will work. I think we'll suffer extreme consequences, lots of people will die, and there will be some sort of riots/war in the next 100 years. Companies don't want to lose money and fix the problem, they'd rather pretend it doesn't exist. See any petrochemical company in the past 50 years. They've known since the 70s and purposefully eradicated and falsified evidence. They should be tried and sentenced for serious crimes for the deaths they have caused and will cause. Do you drive or use any form of transport that uses fuel derived from crude oil ? Yes. I also buy food wrapped in plastic. I also buy a mobile phone with a lithium-ion battery that will run out quicker than coal and gas. I also eat meat. I also fly abroad (albeit very rarely).
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 17, 2020 19:48:30 GMT
Do you drive or use any form of transport that uses fuel derived from crude oil ? Yes. I also buy food wrapped in plastic. I also buy a mobile phone with a lithium-ion battery that will run out quicker than coal and gas. I also eat meat. I also fly abroad (albeit very rarely). Do as I say not as I do ay Lilfraise there is a word for that Hypocrisy young man, by using the products of these evil polluters you are helping to fund the pollution they are causing.
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Post by wagsastokie on Feb 17, 2020 19:51:51 GMT
What mystifies me is why are the daft fuckers destroying the very grass that helps to absorb co2 Thus realsing it in to the atmosphere
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Post by Clayton Wood on Feb 17, 2020 19:56:33 GMT
What mystifies me is why are the daft fuckers destroying the very grass that helps to absorb co2 Thus realsing it in to the atmosphere Erm, because there aren't any tube trains in Cambridge??
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2020 20:02:49 GMT
Yes. I also buy food wrapped in plastic. I also buy a mobile phone with a lithium-ion battery that will run out quicker than coal and gas. I also eat meat. I also fly abroad (albeit very rarely). Do as I say not as I do ay Lilfraise there is a word for that Hypocrisy young man, by using the products of these evil polluters you are helping to fund the pollution they are causing. One can live within a society and still believe it needs improving.
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