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Post by RedandWhite90 on Feb 17, 2020 0:14:03 GMT
At least he was clean for the first time in his life I would recommend a pitbull/bull dog avatar for yourself. If you can find one smoking a cigar and with a full link of ammunition that would just put the cherry on top of the icing on the cake.
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Post by felonious on Feb 17, 2020 6:01:58 GMT
At least fathers 4 justice dressed as batman Fathers! Please God let's hope they don't reproduce
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 17, 2020 7:58:27 GMT
Give me one way in which stopping the planet becoming uninhabitable to human civilisation is a left wing cause? I am waiting very patiently for the response to this. 🤯🤯⏳⏳ The way battle lines of left and right are being drawn on subjects such as this fills me with utter despair. Attachment Deleted
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Post by Eggybread on Feb 17, 2020 8:12:16 GMT
Since when has helping to sort the planet out become a battle between right and left wing political opinions?
Strange one,shouldn't we all be on the same side,we are on the same planet (with a few exceptions on here.)
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Post by partickpotter on Feb 17, 2020 8:18:41 GMT
Since when has helping to sort the planet out become a battle between right and left wing political opinions? Strange one,shouldn't we all be on the same side,we are on the same planet (with a few exceptions on here.) Since the Green Party went red?
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Post by zerps on Feb 17, 2020 8:58:20 GMT
No unwashed perma student is going to sort anything out. Pretending to be an activist because you’re in a telegram group is fucking funny though.
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Post by Eggybread on Feb 17, 2020 9:15:44 GMT
No unwashed perma student is going to sort anything out. Pretending to be an activist because you’re in a telegram group is fucking funny though. For one thing the unwashed student has got you talking about him and climate change. So what are you doing about it?
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Post by foster on Feb 17, 2020 9:30:24 GMT
Don't have an issue with XR to be honest.
If anything, I think there should be more protests regarding climate change.
I don't care if they're eco-warriors or unkempt students, things are moving far too slowly, so I'm in favour of protests.
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Post by zerps on Feb 17, 2020 9:44:11 GMT
No unwashed perma student is going to sort anything out. Pretending to be an activist because you’re in a telegram group is fucking funny though. For one thing the unwashed student has got you talking about him and climate change. So what are you doing about it? Fuck all, my pick up runs on penguins 😆
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Post by zerps on Feb 17, 2020 9:45:14 GMT
Over population is causing the most grief. Stop people breeding or get on with your life.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Feb 17, 2020 9:47:44 GMT
I hope we can stop it. But we as an island are tiny in comparison to China, USA and Russia. Until they stop our efforts seem a little fruitless. I agree there are worse offenders but Christ, if you can't lead by example what can you do?! Is that not what makes Britain great?! We have to do everything we can and to hell with what others are doing (or not doing) "Nobody made a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little."
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Post by Northy on Feb 17, 2020 10:22:05 GMT
Over population is causing the most grief. Stop people breeding or get on with your life. Not really zerps, population in developed countries is falling, hence the push for immigration. We need to look at other ways of measuring happiness apart from GDP growth, it's this that drives the energy use, car use, pollutants etc. up, also the idle lot who won't make minor changes.
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Feb 17, 2020 10:52:03 GMT
Since when has helping to sort the planet out become a battle between right and left wing political opinions? Strange one,shouldn't we all be on the same side,we are on the same planet (with a few exceptions on here.) See the post above. Carp has found the answer in a student protest 😂
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Post by zerps on Feb 17, 2020 10:55:07 GMT
Over population is causing the most grief. Stop people breeding or get on with your life. Not really zerps, population in developed countries is falling, hence the push for immigration. We need to look at other ways of measuring happiness apart from GDP growth, it's this that drives the energy use, car use, pollutants etc. up, also the idle lot who won't make minor changes. At what stage are we going to be obliterated by a nuclear war though? People should worry about that first.
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Post by foster on Feb 17, 2020 11:15:28 GMT
Over population is causing the most grief. Stop people breeding or get on with your life. Not really zerps, population in developed countries is falling, hence the push for immigration. We need to look at other ways of measuring happiness apart from GDP growth, it's this that drives the energy use, car use, pollutants etc. up, also the idle lot who won't make minor changes. Less people means less cars, less need for energy and less pollutants though. It's just one of many reasons why things are getting worse. Needs to a global consensus on how to change the way companies operate and how we live, but i don't see that happening while the US and China are trying to monopolise everything. I agree on your GDP point. The solution to everything can't simply be throwing more money at it. That seems to be the common excuse for everything that's shit now, even though so much is needlessly wasted or lost (benefit fraud for example). It needs to be more tightly managed and put to better use.
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Post by foster on Feb 17, 2020 11:25:09 GMT
Over population is causing the most grief. Stop people breeding or get on with your life. Not really zerps, population in developed countries is falling, hence the push for immigration. We need to look at other ways of measuring happiness apart from GDP growth, it's this that drives the energy use, car use, pollutants etc. up, also the idle lot who won't make minor changes. Is there really a push for immigration though? Or is immigration continuing simply because we have laws and rules that were relevant before but may not be so today? With the number of unemployed we have and the number of jobs available I don't think immigration is really necessary. It's just an excuse to get cheap labour, but labour shouldn't be so cheap that the normal British person turns their nose up at it. Bringing in immigrants is just a quick fix. In the long term they will get old and need pensions so then we just bring in more immigrants to work and cover those additional costs. Not to mention the influx of family members and population growth due to it. I think we're getting to the point where we (and other nations) have to just shut up shop and put the endless craving for growth on pause. Fuck all the shit that's going on elsewhere and focus on improving the standard of living at home with the people and resources we have available.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Feb 17, 2020 11:29:53 GMT
They're cringe, liars, offer no solutions, and are frankly a bunch of babies having a tantrum.
I'd be happy to see the police using live rounds against them and shooting every single one of them right in the face.
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Post by foster on Feb 17, 2020 11:35:27 GMT
They're cringe, liars, offer no solutions, and are frankly a bunch of babies having a tantrum. I'd be happy to see the police using live rounds against them and shooting every single one of them right in the face. Rubber bullets to the genitals would probably have the same deterring effect, and add comedy value.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Feb 17, 2020 11:40:05 GMT
They're cringe, liars, offer no solutions, and are frankly a bunch of babies having a tantrum. I'd be happy to see the police using live rounds against them and shooting every single one of them right in the face. Rubber bullets to the genitals would probably have the same deterring effect, and add comedy value. We'll go with that then, though the coppers would probably have to be expert marksmen and still use telescopic sights from a range of about three feet to find the genitals of these pussy little beta male soyboys.
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Post by zerps on Feb 17, 2020 11:41:50 GMT
They're cringe, liars, offer no solutions, and are frankly a bunch of babies having a tantrum. I'd be happy to see the police using live rounds against them and shooting every single one of them right in the face. They’ve got zero respect because they’re blatantly a bunch of fannys pretending to rebel. That’s the bottom line.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 17, 2020 11:46:36 GMT
They're cringe, liars, offer no solutions, and are frankly a bunch of babies having a tantrum. I'd be happy to see the police using live rounds against them and shooting every single one of them right in the face. Lilfraise applauds these climate warriors flying half way around the World to protest about the state of the environment, they are travelling on aeroplanes propelled by aviation fuel you really couldn't make this shit up, after a recent demonstration in London two tonnes of waste was left on the streets by these fcuking hypocrites.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Feb 17, 2020 11:52:30 GMT
They're cringe, liars, offer no solutions, and are frankly a bunch of babies having a tantrum. I'd be happy to see the police using live rounds against them and shooting every single one of them right in the face. Lilfraise applauds these climate warriors flying half way around the World to protest about the state of the environment, they are travelling on aeroplanes propelled by aviation fuel you really couldn't make this shit up, after a recent demonstration in London two tonnes of waste was left on the streets by these fcuking hypocrites. It's the same story time after time, they want restrictions on stuff but only when it applies to other people. The same is whenever climate change is linked to overpopulation (I think on this thread in fact, but it might be another) when they claim that the only solution is to reduce the numbers of people on earth. They never volunteer to go first, do they? They coukd at the very least sterilise themselves, but no, it's always some abstract concept of vague people volunteering to not reproduce somewhere distant. It's nasty hypocrisy, toy-throwing, attention seeking prickism pursued by nasty little communists after more power.
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Post by foster on Feb 17, 2020 11:57:54 GMT
Lilfraise applauds these climate warriors flying half way around the World to protest about the state of the environment, they are travelling on aeroplanes propelled by aviation fuel you really couldn't make this shit up, after a recent demonstration in London two tonnes of waste was left on the streets by these fcuking hypocrites. It's the same story time after time, they want restrictions on stuff but only when it applies to other people. The same is whenever climate change is linked to overpopulation (I think on this thread in fact, but it might be another) when they claim that the only solution is to reduce the numbers of people on earth. They never volunteer to go first, do they? They coukd at the very least sterilise themselves, but no, it's always some abstract concept of vague people volunteering to not reproduce somewhere distant. It's nasty hypocrisy, toy-throwing, attention seeking prickism pursued by nasty little communists after more power. Tighten up immigration and restrict child benefits to one, or max two child/children. That'll soon curb population growth (in the UK at least).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2020 12:14:39 GMT
I am waiting very patiently for the response to this. 🤯🤯⏳⏳ The way battle lines of left and right are being drawn on subjects such as this fills me with utter despair. View Attachment Okay, so as someone who is right wing. Tell me which part of this you disagree with. 1 - humans are causing a climate catastrophe, already at the level of a mass extinction event. 2 - companies have contributed the vast majority of CO 2 emissions since 1850. 3 - companies have spent the majority of the second half of the 20th century trying to cover up and dispute evidence that they are causing and contributing to this. 4 - If we get warming over 3 oC, there will be irreconcilable crises that we will not be able to stop or fix. 5 - companies and governments must reduce their CO 2 outputs among other emissions in order to slow warming to retrievable levels. 6 - companies and governments will not do this unless forced to, as the initial cost is large. 7 - The initial cost is bollocks compared to the cost if we do nothing, so govts and companies must be forced to change their ways. Tell me each bullet point that you disagree with and why. I cannot see how anyone on the right or left can disagree with any part of that. Socialist or not.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2020 12:18:40 GMT
They're cringe, liars, offer no solutions, and are frankly a bunch of babies having a tantrum. I'd be happy to see the police using live rounds against them and shooting every single one of them right in the face. Lilfraise applauds these climate warriors flying half way around the World to protest about the state of the environment, they are travelling on aeroplanes propelled by aviation fuel you really couldn't make this shit up, after a recent demonstration in London two tonnes of waste was left on the streets by these fcuking hypocrites. The entire point of ER is that it isn't down to individuals, it is large-scale change that is needed. The majority of that 20 tonnes, not 2, was seized by police.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2020 12:19:42 GMT
Lilfraise applauds these climate warriors flying half way around the World to protest about the state of the environment, they are travelling on aeroplanes propelled by aviation fuel you really couldn't make this shit up, after a recent demonstration in London two tonnes of waste was left on the streets by these fcuking hypocrites. It's the same story time after time, they want restrictions on stuff but only when it applies to other people. The same is whenever climate change is linked to overpopulation (I think on this thread in fact, but it might be another) when they claim that the only solution is to reduce the numbers of people on earth. They never volunteer to go first, do they? They coukd at the very least sterilise themselves, but no, it's always some abstract concept of vague people volunteering to not reproduce somewhere distant. It's nasty hypocrisy, toy-throwing, attention seeking prickism pursued by nasty little communists after more power. This is scientifically wrong. The poorest 50% of the world, over 3.5billion people, contribute 7% of global emissions. There is no overpopulation.
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Post by Eggybread on Feb 17, 2020 12:20:21 GMT
Okay, so as someone who is right wing. Tell me which part of this you disagree with. 1 - humans are causing a climate catastrophe, already at the level of a mass extinction event. 2 - companies have contributed the vast majority of CO 2 emissions since 1850. 3 - companies have spent the majority of the second half of the 20th century trying to cover up and dispute evidence that they are causing and contributing to this. 4 - If we get warming over 3 oC, there will be irreconcilable crises that we will not be able to stop or fix. 5 - companies and governments must reduce their CO 2 outputs among other emissions in order to slow warming to retrievable levels. 6 - companies and governments will not do this unless forced to, as the initial cost is large. 7 - The initial cost is bollocks compared to the cost if we do nothing, so govts and companies must be forced to change their ways. Tell me each bullet point that you disagree with and why. I cannot see how anyone on the right or left can disagree with any part of that. Socialist or not. Are you trying to have a sensible debate on here? Be prepared to have a conversation about brexit.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Feb 17, 2020 12:24:14 GMT
Okay, so as someone who is right wing. Tell me which part of this you disagree with. 1 - humans are causing a climate catastrophe, already at the level of a mass extinction event. 2 - companies have contributed the vast majority of CO 2 emissions since 1850. 3 - companies have spent the majority of the second half of the 20th century trying to cover up and dispute evidence that they are causing and contributing to this. 4 - If we get warming over 3 oC, there will be irreconcilable crises that we will not be able to stop or fix. 5 - companies and governments must reduce their CO 2 outputs among other emissions in order to slow warming to retrievable levels. 6 - companies and governments will not do this unless forced to, as the initial cost is large. 7 - The initial cost is bollocks compared to the cost if we do nothing, so govts and companies must be forced to change their ways. Tell me each bullet point that you disagree with and why. I cannot see how anyone on the right or left can disagree with any part of that. Socialist or not. Even if you think the science is settled (it's not, it's a Chicken Little scenario), any action that our tiny little spit of land takes is undone thousands of times over by China, the USA, India, and developing African countries. We are powerless in the scheme of things by the admission of people who spout this bollocks. It's bailing out the basement while there are holes in the roof. All that we are accomplishing is to pay a fucking fortune to lower the quality of our lives. Climate Change (TM) is exaggerated, hyperbolic claptrap. Conning people into falling for this nonsense is an extremely lucrative and profitable business. It started with the Greens saying "Vote for us and we'll save the world", and now all the bastards are at it. It's an excuse to tax people to fuck. It's an excuse for companies to persuade you to unnecessarily upgrade possessions and make perfectly good items obsolete. It's a way of conning people to pay more money for shitter stuff. Sadly, too many people have already fallen for it and they make pariahs of people who stand up against the lies. Even if it's true, there's fuck all the UK can do about it.
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Post by zerps on Feb 17, 2020 12:28:58 GMT
We’re all on borrowed time, by design, including the planet.
Chill out and enjoy it.
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Post by foster on Feb 17, 2020 12:30:01 GMT
It's the same story time after time, they want restrictions on stuff but only when it applies to other people. The same is whenever climate change is linked to overpopulation (I think on this thread in fact, but it might be another) when they claim that the only solution is to reduce the numbers of people on earth. They never volunteer to go first, do they? They coukd at the very least sterilise themselves, but no, it's always some abstract concept of vague people volunteering to not reproduce somewhere distant. It's nasty hypocrisy, toy-throwing, attention seeking prickism pursued by nasty little communists after more power. This is scientifically wrong. The poorest 50% of the world, over 3.5billion people, contribute 7% of global emissions. There is no overpopulation. I'd argue that the remaining 50% is overpopulated in that case then. The least polluting 50% are those probably living in poverty. The other 50% are those in developed countries living lifestyles that are not sustainable. If there were less of them then there would be less pollution.
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