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Post by musik on Nov 2, 2019 15:06:31 GMT
Now named the Capital city of explosions here. Compare w the rest of Europe.
And the Police gave their best this morning to call people for awareness this weekend, telling us not to bend over at our graves and not light some candles as a rememberance act for our dead relatives for two reasons: gangs lurking behind trees robbing people at their family graves when doing so and secondly this is always the worst burglary weekend of the year here, when people are in sorrow.
Btw 33% more robberies in the second largest city, Gothenburg, this year so far.
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Post by musik on Nov 2, 2019 15:08:26 GMT
Sounding worse by the day yesterday, 6 explosions in a day, somebody saying a 28 year old executed in the street, is this gang fighting? Drug related. Think of the situation in Mexico.
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Post by claytonscrubs on Nov 2, 2019 17:00:00 GMT
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Post by mermaidsal on Nov 2, 2019 17:21:04 GMT
Boothen and hoffgreen have 7 day bans for racism for their superbly informed eloquence on this thread. Since both are repeat offenders they're both now on a final warning. Next time it's a permaban.
It's a free country and this is a free speech board but ffs are so many of us honestly on the road backwards to throwing lumps of mud at strangers?? When someone from the real world reads this stuff you do realise they're laughing their tits off at you and the only thing you ever achieve on the board is to frighten (occasionally) and bore (often) decent people away?
Please don't let EE turn back into an EDL pub again. It's so not what Stokies really are.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Nov 2, 2019 20:08:14 GMT
Apparently we can't talk about it, now. I suggest that the lack of proper discussion about mass immigration has led to the problems we currently have. Covering your ears and pretending everything is alright is not the answer. Whole swathes of Europe haven't suddenly become racist.
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Post by franklin66 on Nov 2, 2019 20:19:54 GMT
Apparently we can't talk about it, now. I suggest that the lack of proper discussion about mass immigration has led to the problems we currently have. Covering your ears and pretending everything is alright is not the answer. Whole swathes of Europe haven't suddenly become racist. It's not covering or pretending its fear you cant speak out or your immediately labled. It happens on here every day it's the easy way to shut people up and make yourself feel superior.
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Post by crapslinger on Nov 2, 2019 21:17:49 GMT
Really sad to see the problems in Sweden, I visited many years ago some of the friendliest people I have ever had the pleasure to meet, whatever the root of the problems they need to be addressed obviously before it becomes a war zone. This is not in any way meant to be a racist comment as I have no evidence to suggest it is a race based issue.
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Post by mermaidsal on Nov 2, 2019 21:19:02 GMT
Apparently we can't talk about it, now. I suggest that the lack of proper discussion about mass immigration has led to the problems we currently have. Covering your ears and pretending everything is alright is not the answer. Whole swathes of Europe haven't suddenly become racist. It's easy to talk about it without being racist. I don't see where the problem is with that? Why can't people discuss the facts (which are really important I agree) without the derogatory language?
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Post by crapslinger on Nov 2, 2019 21:20:58 GMT
Now named the Capital city of explosions here. Compare w the rest of Europe. And the Police gave their best this morning to call people for awareness this weekend, telling us not to bend over at our graves and not light some candles as a rememberance act for our dead relatives for two reasons: gangs lurking behind trees robbing people at their family graves when doing so and secondly this is always the worst burglary weekend of the year here, when people are in sorrow. Btw 33% more robberies in the second largest city, Gothenburg, this year so far. What a sad state of affairs mate, sounds as though your authorities have lost control of the streets in places must be frightening for the law abiding majority, take care
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Post by crapslinger on Nov 2, 2019 21:26:17 GMT
Apparently we can't talk about it, now. I suggest that the lack of proper discussion about mass immigration has led to the problems we currently have. Covering your ears and pretending everything is alright is not the answer. Whole swathes of Europe haven't suddenly become racist. It's easy to talk about it without being racist. I don't see where the problem is with that? Why can't people discuss the facts (which are really important I agree) without the derogatory language? I think the problem is Sal that the facts are very difficult to establish so people are putting two and two together and coming up with five, that is an issue when facts are not readily available for whatever reason that may be, I spent two weeks in Sweden many years ago such a beautiful country with the friendliest people I have ever met, I would love to return but fear it would ruin the memories I have of the country and it's people so very sad.
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Post by franklin66 on Nov 2, 2019 23:12:26 GMT
I must have missed something because I've not seen any racist language, I assume it was deleted. It's a fine line between moderation and censorship and who decides what is what. Disgraceful post are ignored on some subjects as it suits those who run the place. For example a well respected member was subject to one of the must pathetic points I've seen on here but 100% nothing was said or done. There were several posts deleted from another thread nowhere near as bad involving my dad yet this post and its poster went unchallenged and no sanctions. Difficult I know but correct all the same.
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Post by stayingupfor GermanStokie on Nov 3, 2019 5:34:24 GMT
I must have missed something because I've not seen any racist language, I assume it was deleted. It's a fine line between moderation and censorship and who decides what is what. Disgraceful post are ignored on some subjects as it suits those who run the place. For example a well respected member was subject to one of the must pathetic points I've seen on here but 100% nothing was said or done. There were several posts deleted from another thread nowhere near as bad involving my dad yet this post and its poster went unchallenged and no sanctions. Difficult I know but correct all the same. I agree, there have been a number of occasions when derogatory language has been used against me (including insinuatory language) from those who profess to be liberal / anti Brexit / anti Tory.... and yet nothing as they post freely day after day. It’s very disappointing and partly why I lurk more rather than post as much in case I’m jumped upon once more.
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Post by crapslinger on Nov 4, 2019 12:20:54 GMT
This general suppression of information is why Sydsvenskan's account is especially remarkable -- although in recent years, media reports have become slightly more common. It is hard, after all, completely to escape reality. In 2017, when Stockholm was hit by a wave of murders, the Swedish mainstream media outlet Expressen, did a report about the 49 criminal networks in the capital that showed the networks consisted of between 500 and 700 gang members. 40.6% of the gang members that Expressen surveyed were foreign-born; 82.2% had two parents who were foreign-born. Their main country of origin was Iraq, followed by Bosnia, Lebanon, Somalia, Syria and Turkey.
Not sure how accurate this report is pretty freighting statistics, I had no idea how bad the issue was
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Post by franklin66 on Nov 4, 2019 13:08:08 GMT
This general suppression of information is why Sydsvenskan's account is especially remarkable -- although in recent years, media reports have become slightly more common. It is hard, after all, completely to escape reality. In 2017, when Stockholm was hit by a wave of murders, the Swedish mainstream media outlet Expressen, did a report about the 49 criminal networks in the capital that showed the networks consisted of between 500 and 700 gang members. 40.6% of the gang members that Expressen surveyed were foreign-born; 82.2% had two parents who were foreign-born. Their main country of origin was Iraq, followed by Bosnia, Lebanon, Somalia, Syria and Turkey.
Not sure how accurate this report is pretty freighting statistics, I had no idea how bad the issue was You should ask how many organised crime groups are based in SOT as opposed to the rest of Staffordshire and who runs them, now there's a question to shock the good folk on here.
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Post by Eggybread on Nov 4, 2019 13:35:03 GMT
This general suppression of information is why Sydsvenskan's account is especially remarkable -- although in recent years, media reports have become slightly more common. It is hard, after all, completely to escape reality. In 2017, when Stockholm was hit by a wave of murders, the Swedish mainstream media outlet Expressen, did a report about the 49 criminal networks in the capital that showed the networks consisted of between 500 and 700 gang members. 40.6% of the gang members that Expressen surveyed were foreign-born; 82.2% had two parents who were foreign-born. Their main country of origin was Iraq, followed by Bosnia, Lebanon, Somalia, Syria and Turkey.
Not sure how accurate this report is pretty freighting statistics, I had no idea how bad the issue was "Their main country of origin was Iraq, followed by Bosnia, Lebanon, Somalia, Syria and Turkey" Wonder how many of these lived in Sweden before they had their homes,dreams and families smashed to pieces by USA and lesser so British bombs. And who gains from all,this the good old USA. Makes you think its all deliberate but it cannot possibly be can it.
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Post by musik on Nov 4, 2019 14:26:26 GMT
Wonder how many of these lived in Sweden before they had their homes,dreams and families smashed to pieces by USA and lesser so British bombs. You wonder how many of them lived in Sweden before they lived in Sweden? 🧐
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Post by musik on Nov 4, 2019 14:29:15 GMT
I will come back to the stats ...
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Post by Eggybread on Nov 4, 2019 14:54:11 GMT
Wonder how many of these lived in Sweden before they had their homes,dreams and families smashed to pieces by USA and lesser so British bombs. You wonder how many of them lived in Sweden before they lived in Sweden? 🧐 Ahh in work Im kinda busy at the moment,but you get my question.
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Post by crapslinger on Nov 4, 2019 14:55:49 GMT
This general suppression of information is why Sydsvenskan's account is especially remarkable -- although in recent years, media reports have become slightly more common. It is hard, after all, completely to escape reality. In 2017, when Stockholm was hit by a wave of murders, the Swedish mainstream media outlet Expressen, did a report about the 49 criminal networks in the capital that showed the networks consisted of between 500 and 700 gang members. 40.6% of the gang members that Expressen surveyed were foreign-born; 82.2% had two parents who were foreign-born. Their main country of origin was Iraq, followed by Bosnia, Lebanon, Somalia, Syria and Turkey.
Not sure how accurate this report is pretty freighting statistics, I had no idea how bad the issue was "Their main country of origin was Iraq, followed by Bosnia, Lebanon, Somalia, Syria and Turkey" Wonder how many of these lived in Sweden before they had their homes,dreams and families smashed to pieces by USA and lesser so British bombs. And who gains from all,this the good old USA. Makes you think its all deliberate but it cannot possibly be can it. Deflecting again ? Bosnia ! and Turkey !
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Post by crapslinger on Nov 4, 2019 14:57:10 GMT
This general suppression of information is why Sydsvenskan's account is especially remarkable -- although in recent years, media reports have become slightly more common. It is hard, after all, completely to escape reality. In 2017, when Stockholm was hit by a wave of murders, the Swedish mainstream media outlet Expressen, did a report about the 49 criminal networks in the capital that showed the networks consisted of between 500 and 700 gang members. 40.6% of the gang members that Expressen surveyed were foreign-born; 82.2% had two parents who were foreign-born. Their main country of origin was Iraq, followed by Bosnia, Lebanon, Somalia, Syria and Turkey.
Not sure how accurate this report is pretty freighting statistics, I had no idea how bad the issue was You should ask how many organised crime groups are based in SOT as opposed to the rest of Staffordshire and who runs them, now there's a question to shock the good folk on here. I wonder if those particular stats. are readily available ?
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Post by Northy on Nov 4, 2019 15:00:21 GMT
Not Sweden but Belguim, is Fozzy Foster looking forward to living under Sharia law in Belguim
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Post by franklin66 on Nov 4, 2019 15:02:12 GMT
You should ask how many organised crime groups are based in SOT as opposed to the rest of Staffordshire and who runs them, now there's a question to shock the good folk on here. I wonder if those particular stats. are readily available ? I dunno but I could have a stab in the dark 😁 if push came to shove.
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Post by crapslinger on Nov 4, 2019 15:05:37 GMT
Not Sweden but Belguim, is Fozzy Foster looking forward to living under Sharia law in Belguim I think this has been predicted for a while in certain EU member countries, it's almost as if this was planned but it can't be can it ?
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Post by musik on Nov 6, 2019 8:59:03 GMT
You wonder how many of them lived in Sweden before they lived in Sweden? 🧐 Ahh in work Im kinda busy at the moment,but you get my question. Noone lived in Sweden before they lived in Sweden. But what has that got to do with anything? Are they excused in some way?
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Post by musik on Nov 6, 2019 8:59:56 GMT
I think this has been predicted for a while in certain EU member countries, it's almost as if this was planned but **it can't be, can it?** 😆 funny, but .. ... on a serious note, this would never have happened if Christianity were their state religion, the same way they have a state religion in some other countries ... with a difference, an equally worthy existing non believer-alternative.
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Post by musik on Nov 6, 2019 13:12:01 GMT
I think this has been predicted for a while in certain EU member countries, it's almost as if this was planned but it can't be can it ? In Sweden such a party would get somewhere between 20-25% in The Election in 2022.
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Post by crapslinger on Nov 6, 2019 14:28:54 GMT
I think this has been predicted for a while in certain EU member countries, it's almost as if this was planned but it can't be can it ? In Sweden such a party would get somewhere between 20-25% in The Election in 2022. How many people would that equate to mate ? seems a high percentage figure, I didn't realise there were that many Muslims in Sweden, do they integrate well with the indigenous population ?
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Post by musik on Nov 6, 2019 15:02:11 GMT
Some promised stats.
We begin with some info from the backside of a now well known and respected book here, from left to right on the political scale, all in all an ambitious work.
"Most swedes have a big benevolence and tolerance to immigrants, and wish the immigration have succeeded better. Sweden's experiment with large scale immigration from the thirld world to a welfare state has been unique in its extent, but has failed in many ways. --- Foreign born people stand for approximately 17 percent of the population and the second generation immigrants for a further 5 percent. Despite this foreign born people stand for 53 percent of them with long sentences in jail, 54 percent of the unemployed and the group get 60 percent of the social benefits paid. 71 percent of Sweden's child poverty is among household with a foreign background, while 76 percent of the members in criminal gangs have an immigration background. Also, the increase of societal problems is to a large part driven by immigration. ---"["Mass challenges", Tino Sanandaji, 2017]
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Post by musik on Nov 6, 2019 16:03:01 GMT
In Sweden such a party would get somewhere between 20-25% in The Election in 2022. How many people would that equate to mate ? seems a high percentage figure, I didn't realise there were that many Muslims in Sweden, do they integrate well with the indigenous population ? In 2022 perhaps 12% muslims? In 2016 it was 8.4%. But not only ALL muslims would vote for such a political party. 20% (in 2022) means 2.1 million peoole. We have totally failed when it comes to integration. The integration is the thing to blame here.
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Post by yeokel on Nov 6, 2019 16:30:59 GMT
How many people would that equate to mate ? seems a high percentage figure, I didn't realise there were that many Muslims in Sweden, do they integrate well with the indigenous population ? In 2022 perhaps 12% muslims? In 2016 it was 8.4%. But not only ALL muslims would vote for such a political party. 20% (in 2022) means 2.1 million peoole. We have totally failed when it comes to integration. No. You haven't, they have. It is the same over here in large areas. Many (not all) ethnic groups choose to live in their own 'select' areas and mix with 'their own type'. Some don't, and mix hapily with us natives. But too many choose separatism in my opinion.
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