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Post by AlbertTatlock on Sept 17, 2019 21:37:19 GMT
Now I'm not saying any of it is 100% correct but because of whom it has come from I have decided to share it, make of it what you will. Nathan Jones is on the verge of quitting and Chris Hughton is lined up to replace him, apparently this is nailed on and will happen very soon (the next week or so). I can't be arsed to go into all the details that I was told but that's the crux of that. Adam Davies has had a massive fall out with Jones as he was promised the no 1 spot in goal but when no one came in for Butland in the summer it pissed on that fire, and Davies threw his toys out of his pram. Butland and Allen had assurances when they signed extended contracts that they if fit they would always be picked for the first team for league matches, this is causing some bitterness in the dressing room as you can imagine. Ryan Woods wants to leave because he doesn't feel like he's being treated fair. Gouranga.
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Post by Davef on Sept 17, 2019 21:40:10 GMT
Thrilling stuff.
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Post by s8to on Sept 17, 2019 21:43:23 GMT
Sounds about spot on
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Post by oatcakesteve on Sept 17, 2019 21:44:08 GMT
Is it even 25% correct or accurate?
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Post by Davef on Sept 17, 2019 21:44:54 GMT
Nothing that hasn't been reported and/or rumoured on here countless times though is it?
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 17, 2019 21:46:47 GMT
Now I'm not saying any of it is 100% correct but because of whom it has come from I have decided to share it, make of it what you will. Nathan Jones is on the verge of quitting and Chris Hughton is lined up to replace him, apparently this is nailed on and will happen very soon (the next week or so). I can't be arsed to go into all the details that I was told but that's the crux of that. Adam Davies has had a massive fall out with Jones as he was promised the no 1 spot in goal but when no one came in for Butland in the summer it pissed on that fire, and Davies threw his toys out of his pram. Butland and Allen had assurances when they signed extended contracts that they if fit they would always be picked for the first team for league matches, this is causing some bitterness in the dressing room as you can imagine. Ryan Woods wants to leave because he doesn't feel like he's being treated fair. Gouranga. Jack butland didn't sign an extended contract.
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Sept 17, 2019 21:47:41 GMT
Don’t want to be too vague but I’ve had a few beers and I’m tired but the Hughton gossip is a lot to do with him working closely with Phil Chapple. Gouranga.
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Post by robrigo on Sept 17, 2019 21:50:08 GMT
Don’t want to be too vague but I’ve had a few beers and I’m tired but the Hughton gossip is a lot to do with him working closely with Phil Chapple. Gouranga. Are you on a level here mate? Do you believe your source?
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Post by Sfance on Sept 17, 2019 22:01:08 GMT
Very believable. Whether it's credible or not is another matter.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 17, 2019 22:02:58 GMT
Jones won’t quit nor should he if the bird want to fire him let them stand up and be counted for their recruitment policy and let the chief executive do the honourable thing and resign as a result of repeated recruitment failure in the most significant role .
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Post by Gary Hackett on Sept 17, 2019 22:03:54 GMT
25+63=88
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Post by stiggerstackle on Sept 17, 2019 22:04:14 GMT
Jones won’t quit nor should he if the bird want to fire him let them stand up and be counted for their recruitment policy and let the chief executive do the honourable thing and resign as a result of repeated recruitment failure in the most significant role . I can actually see NJ being unhinged enough to walk.
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Sept 17, 2019 22:05:17 GMT
Jones won’t quit nor should he if the bird want to fire him let them stand up and be counted for their recruitment policy and let the chief executive do the honourable thing and resign as a result of repeated recruitment failure in the most significant role . I think weve already sunk below a Hughton. We will be looking at a Megson or a McCarthy level
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Post by cooper67 on Sept 17, 2019 22:06:03 GMT
Nothing that hasn't been reported and/or rumoured on here countless times though is it? Exactly. I could have stuck this up from reading the front page of the forum.
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Post by somersetstokie on Sept 17, 2019 22:06:36 GMT
UNLIKELY. Simply because this is a profession where you cannot expect to make such effectively reckless promises to players that might suggest an automatic choice. As a Manager why limit your options if those players are chronically out of form, or you want to change formations and tactics.
Also as regards a managerial reshuffle, if Jones has even tentatively decided to resign. Why? It is clear that he will be given time if he wants it. If he plans to resign why prolongue the agony and further to that, why would the change take a couple of weeks to arrange?
I've never been a fan of Albert and his irritating tag line and although these suggestions might have some background in truth I don't honestly believe them to be a serious consideration. I say bullshit.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 17, 2019 22:07:19 GMT
Jones won’t quit nor should he if the bird want to fire him let them stand up and be counted for their recruitment policy and let the chief executive do the honourable thing and resign as a result of repeated recruitment failure in the most significant role . I can actually see NJ being unhinged enough to walk. [br I can see it being positioned as that to save face after w significant compromise agreement to protect the process and those that run it
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 17, 2019 22:08:09 GMT
Jones won’t quit nor should he if the bird want to fire him let them stand up and be counted for their recruitment policy and let the chief executive do the honourable thing and resign as a result of repeated recruitment failure in the most significant role . I think weve already sunk below a Hughton. We will be looking at a Megson or a McCarthy level That’s cheered me right up
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2019 22:10:15 GMT
UNLIKELY. Simply because this is a profession where you cannot expect to make such effectively reckless promises to players that might suggest an automatic choice. As a Manager why limit your options if those players are chronically out of form, or you want to change formations and tactics. Also as regards a managerial reshuffle, if Jones has even tentatively decided to resign. Why? It is clear that he will be given time if he wants it. If he plans to resign why prolongue the agony and further to that, why would the change take a couple of weeks to arrange? I've never been a fan of Albert and his irritating tag line and although these suggestions might have some background in truth I don't honestly believe them to be a serious consideration. I say bullshit. On the first point, it is unfortunately exactly the kind of stupid reckless thing we would do! It would t have been the manager would it. It’s the same daft clown that gave Bauer a new 5 year contract before knowing if the new manager wanted him!
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 17, 2019 22:13:31 GMT
I would say it’s highly likely and having seen a picture of Jones at Leek last night I’d say he’d be better off out of here because he looks ill
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Post by stokeykez on Sept 17, 2019 22:20:52 GMT
I hope this is true and hope that this fans the small rumours last week about Lincoln, thinking stoke let NJ talk to another club he will walk away with his reputation intact.
I can believe that about the keeper situation and after seeing jack get dropped davies must be titsed that federici was given the nod.
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Post by somersetstokie on Sept 17, 2019 22:29:08 GMT
If some players, for whatever reason, were given some form of guarantee that they are the first or preferred choice to play if fit, what of it. Things change. If they are dropped for the good of the team and don't like it then they know what they can do. Up their game and justify a recall, or find another club that they are likely to be happy with. Of course I believe Jack already thought that the future lies elsewhere but it hasn't worked yet for him has it. He should remember that Begovic tried playing the first choice card when they were both contesting a place and look what happened to Asmir. Getting uppity about it is just twaddle. If the good of the club and the morale of the dressing room is at stake, then these prima donnas can get stuffed. I do feel sorry for Ryan Woods as he hasn't even been given the opportunity to become a first choice. But Joe Allen? I don't think there would be many fans rightly or wrongly complaining if he never played for us again.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2019 22:30:15 GMT
That's filled the void.
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Post by minnierover on Sept 17, 2019 22:32:28 GMT
You ‘can’t be arsed to go into all the details’ because you don’t know them. It’s well documented that Jones’ time is nearly up and Hughton is favorite for the job.
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Post by mrcoke on Sept 17, 2019 22:37:02 GMT
Now I'm not saying any of it is 100% correct but because of whom it has come from I have decided to share it, make of it what you will. Nathan Jones is on the verge of quitting and Chris Hughton is lined up to replace him, apparently this is nailed on and will happen very soon (the next week or so). I can't be arsed to go into all the details that I was told but that's the crux of that. Adam Davies has had a massive fall out with Jones as he was promised the no 1 spot in goal but when no one came in for Butland in the summer it pissed on that fire, and Davies threw his toys out of his pram. Butland and Allen had assurances when they signed extended contracts that they if fit they would always be picked for the first team for league matches, this is causing some bitterness in the dressing room as you can imagine. Ryan Woods wants to leave because he doesn't feel like he's being treated fair. Gouranga. If you don't believe it is 100% correct why pass on rumour that is only destructive/counter productive to the club/Jones trying to do his job? Jones is not a quitter. I think this is all the more so because of his faith. No one on a lucrative contract is going to throw it away. I imagine Adam Davies is cheesed off, but he knew the risk when he signed the contract I don't believe any sensible manager promises a player a first team spot. Is automatic first team selection signed into anyone's contract? I very much doubt it. Your last point would explain why Woods has disappeared from the team sheet, but I expect there are plenty of players want to leave many clubs because they want to better themselves, get a better contract, get more playing time, fallen out with other people in the club, etc. etc.
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Post by Gods on Sept 17, 2019 22:43:56 GMT
Now I'm not saying any of it is 100% correct but because of whom it has come from I have decided to share it, make of it what you will. Nathan Jones is on the verge of quitting and Chris Hughton is lined up to replace him, apparently this is nailed on and will happen very soon (the next week or so). I can't be arsed to go into all the details that I was told but that's the crux of that. Adam Davies has had a massive fall out with Jones as he was promised the no 1 spot in goal but when no one came in for Butland in the summer it pissed on that fire, and Davies threw his toys out of his pram. Butland and Allen had assurances when they signed extended contracts that they if fit they would always be picked for the first team for league matches, this is causing some bitterness in the dressing room as you can imagine. Ryan Woods wants to leave because he doesn't feel like he's being treated fair. Gouranga. Nathan Jones won't 'quit' since he won't leave without the customary pay out. Adam Davies problems stretch beyond Butland not leaving, he is #3 behind Federici. No one does guaranteed starting places. Ryan Woods wants to leave, yes probably, I imagine everyone wants to leave, being bottom isn't much fun.
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Post by Rt Hon Reverend Luvpump on Sept 17, 2019 22:45:13 GMT
Jones won’t quit nor should he if the bird want to fire him let them stand up and be counted for their recruitment policy and let the chief executive do the honourable thing and resign as a result of repeated recruitment failure in the most significant role . I think weve already sunk below a Hughton. We will be looking at a Megson or a McCarthy level I thought Megson did well in his short stint at stoke given the circumstances.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2019 22:49:42 GMT
We've asked Rafa. In Mandarin. He didn't know what the fuck we were talking about.
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Post by redandwhitetundra on Sept 17, 2019 22:55:02 GMT
I've heard similar rumours.
Also been told that our favoured "bean counter" hasn't been around too much as it's been suggested he should keep a low profile and stay away from the club. I've also been told, though, that he's out in the Far East on business as his job role is about to change (along with a number of other roles behind the scenes).
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Post by Goonie on Sept 17, 2019 22:56:30 GMT
Jones won’t quit nor should he if the bird want to fire him let them stand up and be counted for their recruitment policy and let the chief executive do the honourable thing and resign as a result of repeated recruitment failure in the most significant role . I can actually see NJ being unhinged enough to walk. Perhaps he has another job lined up? 😱😁😎🤯😅
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Post by danceswithclams on Sept 17, 2019 23:01:21 GMT
I've heard similar rumours. Also been told that our favoured "bean counter" hasn't been around too much as it's been suggested he should keep a low profile and stay away from the club. I've also been told, though, that he's out in the Far East on business as his job role is about to change (along with a number of other roles behind the scenes). Tony Scholes was not in the Far East last week, that's for sure. I know this as he was in a meeting at my place of work...somewhere...somewhere in the north of Stoke on Trent (alright).
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