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Post by ginkgo on Sept 15, 2019 7:34:17 GMT
Nathan Jones' pre-season comment after a complete squad overhaul.
Yesterday saw only 3 of his 12 signings make the starting line up.
Judgement day must be nigh.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Sept 15, 2019 7:53:35 GMT
His signings have been catastrophic and let's make no mistake about this, they've all totally been HIS signings. The only decent one out of the lot of them (Powell) is permanently injured, which sums us up completely.
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Post by juiceandbits on Sept 15, 2019 7:55:44 GMT
His signings have been catastrophic and let's make no mistake about this, they've all totally been HIS signings. The only decent one out of the lot of them (Powell) is permanently injured, which sums us up completely. To say the only decent signing is Powell seems a little silly. Gregory has looked very decent along with Gregory and Lindsay.
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Post by loosestools on Sept 15, 2019 7:56:00 GMT
I will judge you Nathan - pass me the Black Cap
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Post by GeneralFaye on Sept 15, 2019 7:57:18 GMT
His signings have been catastrophic and let's make no mistake about this, they've all totally been HIS signings. The only decent one out of the lot of them (Powell) is permanently injured, which sums us up completely. To say the only decent signing is Powell seems a little silly. Gregory has looked very decent along with Gregory and Lindsay. Gregory is a good workhorse, fair enough. Lindsay has massively disappointed, must be watching a different player to me.
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Post by shrewspotter on Sept 15, 2019 8:01:48 GMT
3 wins in about 30 games. No league wins this season, a huge squad of players despite saying he wants 20 players, consistently chopping and changing players, formation and tactics
I think the problems first caused by Hughes, then Rowett and now Jones are really hurting us, so much so I think it will take a long time to recover from this no matter who is in charge
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Post by slicko on Sept 15, 2019 8:05:49 GMT
Nathan’s verbal promises and Nathan’s actions are not aligned.
If I were him I’d stop doing so many press conferences and get Rory Delap to stand in front of camera for a short while.
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Post by ChrisKamarasPerm on Sept 15, 2019 8:10:08 GMT
His signings have been catastrophic and let's make no mistake about this, they've all totally been HIS signings. The only decent one out of the lot of them (Powell) is permanently injured, which sums us up completely. To say the only decent signing is Powell seems a little silly. Gregory has looked very decent along with Gregory and Lindsay. Lindsay looks completely inept to me.
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 15, 2019 8:16:02 GMT
To a man the signings have been diabolical.
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Post by dastokie on Sept 15, 2019 8:17:36 GMT
His decision to keep using Mcclean as a left sided defender is shocking. Surely he has got to realise the man cannot defend two easy crosses from their right did us yesterday.
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Post by boweryboy on Sept 15, 2019 8:25:57 GMT
And to keep persevering with McLean at wing back,when it is obvious teams are targeting that area as our defencive weaknesses....Jones you are a complete idiot !!!!
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 15, 2019 9:38:37 GMT
His decision not to sign a decent LB/LWB is enough to judge him on alone, McClean is a liability wherever he plays he's a catastrophe as a LWB this is the managers decision he is responsible and has to go now.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2019 11:43:47 GMT
Nathan Jones' pre-season comment after a complete squad overhaul. Yesterday saw only 3 of his 12 signings make the starting line up. Judgement day must be nigh. A frightening stat, and one that just adds more fuel to the fire. "You don't know what you're doing"....
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Post by nott1 on Sept 15, 2019 13:59:43 GMT
I'm going to have to miss next weeks match .........oh what a shame never mind!
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Post by harrysburrow on Sept 15, 2019 14:33:17 GMT
'Judge me now' has changed to 'give me more time'. They don't know what to do, so they'll stick with him till he finally wins a couple of games and then it will be 'I told you so'.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2019 14:47:53 GMT
If I were him I’d stop doing so many press conferences and get Rory Delap to stand in front of camera for a short while. His contract dictates he must attend pre and post match conferences. He missed one around the time of the transfer deadline. Hart did it instead. He said nothing. No high promises and nothing anyone could write columns about. Jones could learn something from the old man. Delap does do pre match interviews.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 15, 2019 14:57:44 GMT
Let’s be honest Delaps coaching has bought nothing zero or less so his credibility is no better than anyone’s in the management team he’s been part of two failures not omnipresent like Scholes but legend he is and great bloke but coach unproven
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Post by Ryan_Shawjosh on Sept 15, 2019 15:45:27 GMT
Let’s be honest Delaps coaching has bought nothing zero or less so his credibility is no better than anyone’s in the management team he’s been part of two failures not omnipresent like Scholes but legend he is and great bloke but coach unproven This is ultimately what our actual problems this season have been down to as far as I'm concerned, lack of quality coaching. Not necessarily Delap specifically but the whole coaching staff in general. Some of the mistakes we've made this season would perhaps go unpunished in league one but certainly not against some of the teams we're playing in the championship. I find it hard to believe that a quality set of coaches would still result in so many fatal errors in matches. If Jones stays, he ultimately should be looking at improving his staff. He's developed a far more dedicated squad than last season but dedication and effort can only go so far.
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Post by nott1 on Sept 15, 2019 17:18:05 GMT
Let’s be honest Delaps coaching has bought nothing zero or less so his credibility is no better than anyone’s in the management team he’s been part of two failures not omnipresent like Scholes but legend he is and great bloke but coach unproven Probably just puts the cones out for Ince to fall over!
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Post by slicko on Sept 15, 2019 19:20:51 GMT
If I were him I’d stop doing so many press conferences and get Rory Delap to stand in front of camera for a short while. His contract dictates he must attend pre and post match conferences. He missed one around the time of the transfer deadline. Hart did it instead. He said nothing. No high promises and nothing anyone could write columns about. Jones could learn something from the old man. Delap does do pre match interviews. NJ has proved to damage his reputation by giving interviews. He ought get a Bielsa-like interpreter in and only talk in Welsh.
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 15, 2019 19:38:59 GMT
I judge him not good enough!
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Post by pavel on Sept 15, 2019 19:59:08 GMT
His decision not to sign a decent LB/LWB is enough to judge him on alone, McClean is a liability wherever he plays he's a catastrophe as a LWB this is the managers decision he is responsible and has to go now. His decision to let Pieters go before signing a proper full back/ wingback is/was certifiable
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Post by palerider on Sept 15, 2019 20:10:09 GMT
His decision to let verlinden go to play in a condemned team at Bolton was bizarre, Great to see him score yesterday
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Post by spirered on Sept 15, 2019 20:10:45 GMT
Ok, what's really going on....
1. The reason that we looked a lot better yesterday was a mainly down to Ndiaye, who was a different class to anyone else on the field - it's only by luck that he still at the club - Jones would have been playing Woods or Cousins, and both are below average for this division
2. Every week he complains that we are conceding the same type of goals, which come from the right wing and end up with goals conceded at the back post - the constant is that MacLean is being played at wing back but can't defend. Yet he's released any half decent left back and not replaced him. If it's not working fooking change it!!!
3. Of the 12 players bought in since January, how many are really better than what we already had? Everyone has their own views but if we are honest, the players that have been brought on not players that are top 6 quality
4. Young, athletic, quick.. is what he promised....really, just name one player from those 12 signings that come close to meet that criteria!!
5. Stats...4 wins in 30? I just don't believe that any other manager could have got worse results from this team
6. Judge me now...bottom of the league, lost 6 out of 7 with half a million players at his disposal..my judgement is that he's crap
I could go on, but there's no point, he'll be given in to the next international break anyway...
On the positive side, I can park easier and the queue to get beers is getting much better..well done Stoke City 😂
We won't get any lower this season.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2019 23:02:48 GMT
His contract dictates he must attend pre and post match conferences. He missed one around the time of the transfer deadline. Hart did it instead. He said nothing. No high promises and nothing anyone could write columns about. Jones could learn something from the old man. Delap does do pre match interviews. NJ has proved to damage his reputation by giving interviews. He ought get a Bielsa-like interpreter in and only talk in Welsh. Or simply a press secretary like they do on the continent. He answers most basic questions, but of course in a mediafriendly manner.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2019 23:06:38 GMT
4 wins in 30? I just don't believe that any other manager could have got worse results from this team Which one was the 4th? Unless you're counting the 6-0 vs Leek, we have only 3 wins.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Sept 16, 2019 4:59:24 GMT
4 wins in 30? I just don't believe that any other manager could have got worse results from this team Which one was the 4th? Unless you're counting the 6-0 vs Leek, we have only 3 wins. Probably included the win in the cup against Wigan!!!
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Post by tony1234 on Sept 16, 2019 5:30:33 GMT
I admit I did judge you last season Nathan - thought you werent the right guy, out of your depth, ridden with muddled thought, but might learn and adapt. THanks for suggesting I wait before I judge. Now, I know with some certainty you are incompetent and vacuous.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Sept 16, 2019 9:46:40 GMT
Anyone with half a brain cell could see in April he didn't know what he was doing.
He should have gone end of season before he was allowed to fill the squad with lower championship / league one players.
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Post by s8to on Sept 16, 2019 9:51:49 GMT
Anyone with half a brain cell could see in April he didn't know what he was doing. He should have gone end of season before he was allowed to fill the squad with lower championship / league one players. As Ang said on KNOTT FM last night, 'average players give average results', it is not rocket science is it!!
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