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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Sept 13, 2019 16:30:31 GMT
The suggestion that he wanted to keep the same team but losing games meant he HAD to lose his shit and change everything every week is bizarre and more than a little worrying. I thought the same. "My hands have been tied. I've had to make wholesale changes every game and make formations changes too...." No you didn't, Nath. You absolutely didn't. The change of formation is what worries me most. Certain players definitely needed dropping - especially Butland - but he should have stuck to his principles. The thing I find strange though is the number of posters who banged on about needing a radical change of formation - and when he did change formation and things inevitably got worse not one of them came on here and said they got it wrong. Funny that given the usual levels of personal responsibility shown on here.
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Post by thevoid on Sept 13, 2019 16:34:29 GMT
Can't believe those excuses he's listed for the knock-on effects to our poor start, AFCON, European window etc. Nathan, we didn't use the European market you fucking divvy. Nathan, the higher you climb the more a team players will be on International duty. Proper managers manage these things 23 fucking managers managed to, you fucking halfwit. In fairness McLean and Allen must be bollocksed after travelling all the way to Dublin and Cardiff.
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Post by numpty40 on Sept 13, 2019 16:49:51 GMT
Were there any specific details re anyone unavailable for tomorrow? Nick Powell strained eyelash and a critical broken finger nail, could be back next week might not we will have to wait until he has seen the beautician on Wednesday, God willing he will pull through this latest crisis I'm sure I read on here how some thought Powell would do a far better job in this league than Bojan could ever do
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2019 17:02:36 GMT
I thought the same. "My hands have been tied. I've had to make wholesale changes every game and make formations changes too...." No you didn't, Nath. You absolutely didn't. The change of formation is what worries me most. Certain players definitely needed dropping - especially Butland - but he should have stuck to his principles. The thing I find strange though is the number of posters who banged on about needing a radical change of formation - and when he did change formation and things inevitably got worse not one of them came on here and said they got it wrong. Funny that given the usual levels of personal responsibility shown on here. How many posters said I know, a 4-3-3 with Ince and McClean as 2 of the front 3 worked so well last year let's try that again?!!!!!! Other than that he still played his "diamond midfield" by his own admission albeit it with 3 at the back instead of 2. Except for Leeds away which worked in a normal 3-5-2 which everyone had been asking for until he took Campbell off and left on striker up front then it went to shit. Surprise fucking suprise.
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Post by theoptimist on Sept 13, 2019 17:03:50 GMT
After watching that and hear him waffle about Badou, i'm non the wiser whether he's going to play for us again or not!
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Post by stokemark on Sept 13, 2019 18:08:21 GMT
Massive error to not replace him in this 2 week lay off.
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Post by mrcoke on Sept 13, 2019 18:18:28 GMT
I thought the same. "My hands have been tied. I've had to make wholesale changes every game and make formations changes too...." No you didn't, Nath. You absolutely didn't. The change of formation is what worries me most. Certain players definitely needed dropping - especially Butland - but he should have stuck to his principles. The thing I find strange though is the number of posters who banged on about needing a radical change of formation - and when he did change formation and things inevitably got worse not one of them came on here and said they got it wrong. Funny that given the usual levels of personal responsibility shown on here. If we had an "I got it wrong thread" it would be a pretty short one!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2019 18:25:55 GMT
How can he say "I imagine so" when asked if the players are ready?! Ridiculous. You've just spent 2 weeks with them (well, 7 days within 2 weeks given they seemed to have half of last week off despite being completely and utterly wank at everything for six games...not like some extra work wouldn't have gone a fucking miss) and he doesn't know...great. Yeah, but don't forget in the days off they had the opportunity to go to Dubai or whatever. These airports can be pretty tiring!!. To be fair walking through Dubai airport probably does take more effort than they put in a week - its massive!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2019 18:39:50 GMT
How loooooooooooooooooooong is long term? Has he given any indication? He's not implying we may have to drop down again is he - just so we can see what a wizard he is in Division one first hand? He's on a five year contract...he could get promoted three times if he drops down two first!
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Sept 13, 2019 19:51:54 GMT
I’ve been saying from early doors that he does himself no favors with his media utterances, he should have reined in the hyperbole from the start and been more measured
He’s coming across almost cartoonishly at this point.
Hoping for 3 points but expecting to once again pissed off come 5pm tomorrow
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Post by thestatusquo on Sept 13, 2019 20:04:33 GMT
Did he just say that the owners should be happy apart from the results!!!!!!!!
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Post by kustokie on Sept 13, 2019 20:21:12 GMT
After watching that and hear him waffle about Badou, i'm non the wiser whether he's going to play for us again or not! I think that was his intent. Either he does not know or he’s not going to say. What’s he going to say “nah, he’s out of here”
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Post by kustokie on Sept 13, 2019 20:30:07 GMT
Can't believe those excuses he's listed for the knock-on effects to our poor start, AFCON, European window etc. Nathan, we didn't use the European market you fucking divvy. Nathan, the higher you climb the more a team players will be on International duty. Proper managers manage these things 23 fucking managers managed to, you fucking halfwit. I am not a Jones apologist; however, I understood him to say that Stoke had players in the squad like Diouf and N’dye looking to find a spot in Europe but they didn’t get an offer so now we’re stuck with them.
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Post by kustokie on Sept 13, 2019 20:31:42 GMT
Yeah, but don't forget in the days off they had the opportunity to go to Dubai or whatever. These airports can be pretty tiring!!. To be fair walking through Dubai airport probably does take more effort than they put in a week - its massive! They probably requested wheel chairs.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2019 20:36:26 GMT
To be fair walking through Dubai airport probably does take more effort than they put in a week - its massive! They probably requested wheel chairs. You can pay people to golf buggy you around
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Post by LGH87 on Sept 13, 2019 20:40:58 GMT
He talks out of his fucking arse and it’s beginning to really grind me down! When talking about diouf, Verlinden etc he said we wanted a squad of 20/21 that hasn’t happened, things went on we can’t divulge. Why, why can’t they divulge. They made a big song and dance about having such a streamlined 20 man squad at the start of the summer. It hasn’t happened and it’s got to be all shrouded in secrecy. Someone has obviously failed at their job this summer and it’s all a big fucking cover up! Everything stinks. He bangs on about continuity with the starting eleven. The fucking clown hasn’t started the same team in consecutive games since he took over. He’s so full of shit it’s unreal. Ange asked Nath if Badou was training, fit & ready to play. He then spends the next 2/3 minutes talking about when he first met him six months ago, how he’s done in Turkey & how nobody bid for him. He never actually answered the fucking question. Are diouf, N’Goy and Badou even training with the first team? We’re bottom of the fucking league and the fans haven’t a clue whats going fucking on. It’s about time there was some fucking transparency at this football club
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Post by kustokie on Sept 13, 2019 20:44:39 GMT
They probably requested wheel chairs. You can pay people to golf buggy you around You don’t pay anything if you tell the flight attendant you can’t walk far. It works every time for my in-laws, mind you they are in the 80s and dead cheap. So they would walk if they had to pay.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Sept 13, 2019 21:21:10 GMT
Did he just say that the owners should be happy apart from the results!!!!!!!! He did and the work he's done will do the club good for years to come or words to that effect!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2019 21:45:34 GMT
Did he just say that the owners should be happy apart from the results!!!!!!!! He did and the work he's done will do the club good for years to come or words to that effect! Deluded.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Sept 13, 2019 21:57:20 GMT
Did he just say that the owners should be happy apart from the results!!!!!!!! He did and the work he's done will do the club good for years to come or words to that effect! Did he actually say the “owners should be happy”?.......perhaps I was listening to a different press conference.
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Post by Gob Bluth on Sept 13, 2019 22:00:23 GMT
We went through a similar stage with Rowett near the end. We had the honesty and the need to stop individual errors. Then we moved onto the players needing to take responsibility step only to be told afterwards things were actually ok.
The only hope for him is he knows the problems and is spinning us a story to protect the players. If he's really going to give us more of the same he's not up to the job. More of the same includes an error prone Jack, a system that exposes our weakest position at left back and a formation that somehow appears to make us have an empty midfield.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Sept 13, 2019 22:05:17 GMT
He looks and sounds like a beaten man, hope we win tomorrow and he turns things around.
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Post by neilb987 on Sept 13, 2019 22:16:21 GMT
He looks and sounds like a beaten man, hope we win tomorrow and he turns things around. Agreed. He looks like he's on the verge of a nervous breakdown; and I would wish that on anyone.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2019 22:27:43 GMT
“I’m under no illusion that if I don’t get results I know I won’t be where I want to be.
“But to get results, there’s a lot of processes that are needed, but we are on the right road in so many avenues.
Milton Keynes? Think he needs an holiday.
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Post by BuzzB on Sept 13, 2019 22:28:11 GMT
He looks and sounds like a beaten man, hope we win tomorrow and he turns things around. Broken. Like a man that doesn't know which way to turn. I truly hope that we can win and then string a few results together, he is full of good intentions and is a likeable bloke, but, as said, is probably punching above his weight.
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Post by sportsman on Sept 14, 2019 8:53:35 GMT
He looks and sounds like a beaten man, hope we win tomorrow and he turns things around. Come on you potters 🤞
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Post by philm87 on Sept 14, 2019 9:18:18 GMT
We are bottom of the league, all the fans on here hate him and want him out and he is being asked the same questions about why he is so shit over and over again?
Like most people on this thread, I just can't fathom why the bloke is so gloomy?
Would be nice if he shared the same optimism as people on here.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Sept 14, 2019 9:56:38 GMT
We are bottom of the league, all the fans on here hate him and want him out and he is being asked the same questions about why he is so shit over and over again? Like most people on this thread, I just can't fathom why the bloke is so gloomy? Would be nice if he shared the same optimism as people on here. “All the fans on here”.......do they really ”Hate”.........A very poor choice of a word to describe the views of some. Theres no no doubt he’s as apprehensive as the vast majority for a result today, with a good performance thrown in as a bonus.
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Post by thevoid on Sept 14, 2019 10:19:46 GMT
We are bottom of the league, all the fans on here hate him and want him out and he is being asked the same questions about why he is so shit over and over again? Like most people on this thread, I just can't fathom why the bloke is so gloomy? Would be nice if he shared the same optimism as people on here. “All the fans on here”.......do they really ”Hate”.........A very poor choice of a word to describe the views of some. Theres no no doubt he’s as apprehensive as the vast majority for a result today, with a good performance thrown in as a bonus. 3 wins from 26 and it's the fans' fault. Only at Stoke 😂😂😂
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2019 10:24:09 GMT
We are bottom of the league, all the fans on here hate him and want him out and he is being asked the same questions about why he is so shit over and over again? Like most people on this thread, I just can't fathom why the bloke is so gloomy? Would be nice if he shared the same optimism as people on here. “All the fans on here”.......do they really ”Hate”.........A very poor choice of a word to describe the views of some. Theres no no doubt he’s as apprehensive as the vast majority for a result today, with a good performance thrown in as a bonus. The thing is most people are quite rightly fed up. A lot of people thought it best if we’d got rid of him over the international break but that press conference yesterday was a complete and utter joke. You’d expect him to come out and be telling us about all the extra work they’ve been doing. You’d expect him to answer yes of course when asked if the players are up for it not “I imagine so”. So all you have today is a load of fans going to a game when our manager doesn’t even seem sure the players are up for it. So that fills no-one with confidence. And you go expecting a half arsed effort you’re not going to react well when you see one or go with any enthusiasm or hope. He doesn’t look like he wants to be here and he’s not helping the situation at all. It’s all waffle waffle blah blah that tells us nothing. He might as well stop bothering. Six games in and I’m not sure if he knows his best team, formation or has been able to identify the problems that causes the results. Great.
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