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Post by GoBoks on Sept 12, 2019 19:17:13 GMT
Stoke have held season ticket prices st the rates that were charged 12 years ago. Let's say we have a stadium of 30,000 fans for every game of the season. Let's say the average cost of a ticket is 350 quid. Let's say the average fan spends as much again on "stuff" that directly benefits the club at say 50% mark up. That means Stoke would receive about 16 Million quid a year from fans. How much do you think the man that people are sneering at and deriding on another thread has contributed to Stoke?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2019 19:26:21 GMT
Stoke have held season ticket prices st the rates that were charged 12 years ago. Let's say we have a stadium of 30,000 fans for every game of the season. Let's say the average cost of a ticket is 350 quid. Let's say the average fan spends as much again on "stuff" that directly benefits the club at say 50% mark up. That means Stoke would receive about 16 Million quid a year from fans. How much do you think the man that people are sneering at and deriding on another thread has contributed to Stoke? Not an extra £16m a year out of his own pocket (that wasn't generated from the "business" of the club) that's for sure.
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Post by Somebody_Told_Me on Sept 12, 2019 21:27:17 GMT
I'd be suprised if ticket average was 350 my 3 kids have been 99 for years and only recently have 2 gone up to around £170ish
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Post by Gods on Sept 12, 2019 23:52:06 GMT
Little wonder we were £150 million in debt before Rowett's transfer splurge last summer and before we treated Nathan to a whole new team this summer.
Must be closer to $200 million debt now.
Average media rights revenue per annum in the Championship is £12m in total per year.
Our parachute payments evaporate altogether next season.
People calling for new owners are having a laugh, no one would buy the club (even if it were free) and take on the burgeoning debt with no foreseeable means of paying it off.
The fact that we are bottom of Division 2 with 1 point from 18 and no win in 12 is almost the least of our problems.
We really are in the brown stuff, the only question is how deep.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 12, 2019 23:56:41 GMT
Little wonder we were £150 million in debt before Rowett's transfer splurge last summer and before we treated Nathan to a whole new team this summer. Must be closer to $200 million debt now. Average media rights revenue per annum in the Championship is £12m in total per year. Our parachute payments evaporate altogether next season. People calling for new owners are having a laugh, no one would buy the club (even if it were free) and take on the burgeoning debt with no foreseeable means of paying it off. We really are in the brown stuff, the only question is how deep. But we’re so well run.....
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 13, 2019 6:22:23 GMT
Little wonder we were £150 million in debt before Rowett's transfer splurge last summer and before we treated Nathan to a whole new team this summer. Must be closer to $200 million debt now. Average media rights revenue per annum in the Championship is £12m in total per year. Our parachute payments evaporate altogether next season. People calling for new owners are having a laugh, no one would buy the club (even if it were free) and take on the burgeoning debt with no foreseeable means of paying it off. The fact that we are bottom of Division 2 with 1 point from 18 and no win in 12 is almost the least of our problems. We really are in the brown stuff, the only question is how deep. The Hughes legacy all self inflicted.
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Post by Goonie on Sept 13, 2019 6:30:48 GMT
I've just paid £58 (including £2 booking fee) for 2 tickets for Saturday - just regular seats
Not everyone can afford to go weekly even at these reduced rates let alone afford to go every home game
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2019 7:24:54 GMT
Stoke have held season ticket prices st the rates that were charged 12 years ago. Let's say we have a stadium of 30,000 fans for every game of the season. Let's say the average cost of a ticket is 350 quid. Let's say the average fan spends as much again on "stuff" that directly benefits the club at say 50% mark up. That means Stoke would receive about 16 Million quid a year from fans. How much do you think the man that people are sneering at and deriding on another thread has contributed to Stoke? How much has he contributed? No where near as much as his daughter.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2019 7:52:21 GMT
I've just paid £58 (including £2 booking fee) for 2 tickets for Saturday - just regular seats Not everyone can afford to go weekly even at these reduced rates let alone afford to go every home game The OP who doesn’t even go to games or buy a season ticket lives in cloud cuckoo land mate and just wants to have a pop at the fans any way he can.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 13, 2019 7:54:36 GMT
I've just paid £58 (including £2 booking fee) for 2 tickets for Saturday - just regular seats Not everyone can afford to go weekly even at these reduced rates let alone afford to go every home game Matchday prices are as obscene as the season ticket prices are superb. The disparity between the 2 has been ridiculous for many a year
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2019 7:57:45 GMT
I've just paid £58 (including £2 booking fee) for 2 tickets for Saturday - just regular seats Not everyone can afford to go weekly even at these reduced rates let alone afford to go every home game Disgusting prices.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 13, 2019 8:41:40 GMT
I've just bought 3 for Brentford. I still can't believe they've stuck a random bastard fiver on top and I'm fucking swallowing it!
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Post by foxysgloves on Sept 13, 2019 8:55:02 GMT
The owners clearly have no regard for the fans and our general well being.
Freezing season ticket prices and providing free coaches to away matches equates to sadistic behavior of the worst sort.
Sack the board.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Sept 13, 2019 9:27:04 GMT
Stoke have held season ticket prices st the rates that were charged 12 years ago. Let's say we have a stadium of 30,000 fans for every game of the season. Let's say the average cost of a ticket is 350 quid. Let's say the average fan spends as much again on "stuff" that directly benefits the club at say 50% mark up. That means Stoke would receive about 16 Million quid a year from fans. How much do you think the man that people are sneering at and deriding on another thread has contributed to Stoke? How much has he contributed? No where near as much as his daughter. Doesnt really matter does it? Since they took over scfc the club has grown in profile, the ground has expanded and the training facilities are better. They as a family & supporters havn't just put in pence either, alot more than any other supporters have
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Post by GoBoks on Sept 13, 2019 16:38:32 GMT
Stoke have held season ticket prices st the rates that were charged 12 years ago. Let's say we have a stadium of 30,000 fans for every game of the season. Let's say the average cost of a ticket is 350 quid. Let's say the average fan spends as much again on "stuff" that directly benefits the club at say 50% mark up. That means Stoke would receive about 16 Million quid a year from fans. How much do you think the man that people are sneering at and deriding on another thread has contributed to Stoke? How much has he contributed? No where near as much as his daughter. Pedant! Change "the man that people are sneering at and deriding" to "the Coates family collectively and/or any individual member and/or any company they control"
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Post by GoBoks on Sept 13, 2019 16:39:57 GMT
The owners clearly have no regard for the fans and our general well being. Freezing season ticket prices and providing free coaches to away matches equates to sadistic behavior of the worst sort. Sack the board. Brilliant. Perhaps there is grounds for locking them up? Are their prevention of cruelty laws in UK?
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Post by GoBoks on Sept 13, 2019 16:47:31 GMT
I've just paid £58 (including £2 booking fee) for 2 tickets for Saturday - just regular seats Not everyone can afford to go weekly even at these reduced rates let alone afford to go every home game 29 quid for a 2 hour event. A ticket to a concert or something like Cirique du Soleil will run you 40+ quid and the Lion King very similar. 11 games would buy you a season ticket, start saving now!
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Sept 13, 2019 16:48:44 GMT
May as well sell up to that bloke from Bury - or maybe the Oystons and put everyone out of their misery. Why the hell does Coates keep chucking millions away only to receive an endless tirade of abuse for his pains? The man's a saint - any normal bloke would have got rid and just walked away a long time ago. I genuinely can't understand why he hasn't and why we aren't in administration by now.
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Post by GoBoks on Sept 13, 2019 16:51:30 GMT
May as well sell up to that bloke from Bury - or maybe the Oystons and put everyone out of their misery. Why the hell does Coates keep chucking millions away only to receive an endless tirade of abuse for his pains? The man's a saint - any normal bloke would have got rid and just walked away a long time ago. I genuinely can't understand why he hasn't and why we aren't in administration by now. Maybe he's a fan?
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 13, 2019 17:25:53 GMT
Stoke have held season ticket prices st the rates that were charged 12 years ago. Let's say we have a stadium of 30,000 fans for every game of the season. Let's say the average cost of a ticket is 350 quid. Let's say the average fan spends as much again on "stuff" that directly benefits the club at say 50% mark up. That means Stoke would receive about 16 Million quid a year from fans. How much do you think the man that people are sneering at and deriding on another thread has contributed to Stoke? That's lovely Tony.
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Post by GoBoks on Sept 13, 2019 17:27:14 GMT
Stoke have held season ticket prices st the rates that were charged 12 years ago. Let's say we have a stadium of 30,000 fans for every game of the season. Let's say the average cost of a ticket is 350 quid. Let's say the average fan spends as much again on "stuff" that directly benefits the club at say 50% mark up. That means Stoke would receive about 16 Million quid a year from fans. How much do you think the man that people are sneering at and deriding on another thread has contributed to Stoke? That's lovely Tony. Thanks Smurfy
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Post by Goonie on Sept 13, 2019 19:32:27 GMT
I've just paid £58 (including £2 booking fee) for 2 tickets for Saturday - just regular seats Not everyone can afford to go weekly even at these reduced rates let alone afford to go every home game 29 quid for a 2 hour event. A ticket to a concert or something like Cirique du Soleil will run you 40+ quid and the Lion King very similar. 11 games would buy you a season ticket, start saving now! But.....youd actually receive some form of entertainment! 😁😎
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Post by Goonie on Sept 13, 2019 19:33:36 GMT
May as well sell up to that bloke from Bury - or maybe the Oystons and put everyone out of their misery. Why the hell does Coates keep chucking millions away only to receive an endless tirade of abuse for his pains? The man's a saint - any normal bloke would have got rid and just walked away a long time ago. I genuinely can't understand why he hasn't and why we aren't in administration by now. Tax loss? 😁😎🤔
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Post by GoBoks on Sept 13, 2019 19:54:06 GMT
29 quid for a 2 hour event. A ticket to a concert or something like Cirique du Soleil will run you 40+ quid and the Lion King very similar. 11 games would buy you a season ticket, start saving now! But.....youd actually receive some form of entertainment! 😁😎 There are many people who fork out hundreds of quid for a decent bit of sado-masochism. Count yourself lucky you are getting a bargain. (but sssshhhhhh, don't tell anyone or the prices will go up - supply and demand and all that good stuff)
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 13, 2019 21:32:35 GMT
Stoke have held season ticket prices st the rates that were charged 12 years ago. Let's say we have a stadium of 30,000 fans for every game of the season. Let's say the average cost of a ticket is 350 quid. Let's say the average fan spends as much again on "stuff" that directly benefits the club at say 50% mark up. That means Stoke would receive about 16 Million quid a year from fans. How much do you think the man that people are sneering at and deriding on another thread has contributed to Stoke? More subservient codswallop.
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Post by GoBoks on Sept 13, 2019 21:55:28 GMT
Stoke have held season ticket prices st the rates that were charged 12 years ago. Let's say we have a stadium of 30,000 fans for every game of the season. Let's say the average cost of a ticket is 350 quid. Let's say the average fan spends as much again on "stuff" that directly benefits the club at say 50% mark up. That means Stoke would receive about 16 Million quid a year from fans. How much do you think the man that people are sneering at and deriding on another thread has contributed to Stoke? More subservient codswallop. I guess that's your stock answer when you can't counter. So long, have a great life fellow Stokie!
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Post by kustokie on Sept 13, 2019 23:44:33 GMT
Stoke have held season ticket prices st the rates that were charged 12 years ago. Let's say we have a stadium of 30,000 fans for every game of the season. Let's say the average cost of a ticket is 350 quid. Let's say the average fan spends as much again on "stuff" that directly benefits the club at say 50% mark up. That means Stoke would receive about 16 Million quid a year from fans. How much do you think the man that people are sneering at and deriding on another thread has contributed to Stoke? How much has he contributed? No where near as much as his daughter. The Coates family haven’t personally contributed anything. It all comes out of BET365’s advertising budget or loans from the company. We were never well run, just flush with cash. Then Denise, who does not give two hoots about football, told her old man and brother that their money-pit hobby had to be self sustaining. Ever since we’ve been in a downward spiral.
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Post by tony1234 on Sept 14, 2019 11:33:12 GMT
As Stoke's debts raised to 180m in late 2018, the view of football finance expert Kietan Macquire was that, "without Coates' commitment the club would be in "serious financial problems.... "The Coates' love Stoke and Stoke love the Coates', so the club is secured going forward." But im not 100% sure about the second part of that, precisely because we are indebted to the Coates, does that make a well run club? Its hardly sustainable to be reliant on one families income source as our primary means of keeping the administrators at bay. What happens to Stoke in any number of scenarios a) a downturn in their own business, b) a change of business interests, c) a change in their personal circumstances? Feels more like a ticking time bomb to me which might go off tomorrow or in 5 years, or longer. But one day it will. Then what?. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46274218Our debt is amongst the highest around - 8th in GB. Report on the Price of Football in Feb 19 showed - Four of the top seven clubs in the second tier at that time were amongst the five clubs with the least amounts of debts. Norwich City, had the fifth lowest debt whilst third placed Sheffield United owed just £1.9 million and fourth placed West Brom owed nothing.. Derby County are the other top seven club who sit low down on the list. Stoke City, Blackburn Rovers and Ipswich Town had the highest debts. Sunderland also owed 162m.
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Post by kustokie on Sept 14, 2019 12:49:49 GMT
As Stoke's debts raised to 180m in late 2018, the view of football finance expert Kietan Macquire was that, "without Coates' commitment the club would be in "serious financial problems.... "The Coates' love Stoke and Stoke love the Coates', so the club is secured going forward." But im not 100% sure about the second part of that, precisely because we are indebted to the Coates, does that make a well run club? Its hardly sustainable to be reliant on one families income source as our primary means of keeping the administrators at bay. What happens to Stoke in any number of scenarios a) a downturn in their own business, b) a change of business interests, c) a change in their personal circumstances? Feels more like a ticking time bomb to me which might go off tomorrow or in 5 years, or longer. But one day it will. Then what?. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46274218Our debt is amongst the highest around - 8th in GB. Report on the Price of Football in Feb 19 showed - Four of the top seven clubs in the second tier at that time were amongst the five clubs with the least amounts of debts. Norwich City, had the fifth lowest debt whilst third placed Sheffield United owed just £1.9 million and fourth placed West Brom owed nothing.. Derby County are the other top seven club who sit low down on the list. Stoke City, Blackburn Rovers and Ipswich Town had the highest debts. Sunderland also owed 162m. The biggest worry is what happens when PC passes away. I am not sure Denise has the same commitment.
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