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Post by apb1 on Sept 13, 2019 9:01:10 GMT
I wish Denise would spend time on sorting us out and have a rest from Bet365. She's clearly the very intelligent leader we need, mainly because she's very good at hiring the right people.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Sept 13, 2019 9:04:30 GMT
Bolton, Bury, Portsmouth, Leeds all examples of why we should be sticking with the Coates family, IMHO. Pretty extreme examples. They are a minority of take overs that have gone badly. On the flip side you have success stories like Wolves, Villa, Watford and on the extreme end Man City! The Coates family appear to be taking us to league one which is pretty concerning given we are one of the richest clubs in the country. Imagine how shit we’d be if they didn’t have money? There decision making in the past few years has been nothing short of atrocious.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2019 9:07:46 GMT
I wish Denise would spend time on sorting us out and have a rest from Bet365. She's clearly the very intelligent leader we need, mainly because she's very good at hiring the right people. If they could just sit down with the head of recruitment at Bet365 and be taught how to assess what skills are needed to do a particular role and prepare a job specification and how to identify if a candidate has those skills and can do the job with the tools your going to give them that would be fab.
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Post by rawli on Sept 13, 2019 9:25:03 GMT
Hughes spent a lot of money during his reign at Stoke. In addition we already had gathered a good group of players. The big problem was that he neglected defensive training, I believe what Wilson said, and he tried to play too sexy football which came back to bite us. After losing Arnie we only had Shaq able to do something special and at the same time he emptied the wardrobe of heads with the right mindset, like Huth, Whelan, Walters and Bardsley. During his time he bought Imbula £18M, Wimmer £18M, Shaq £13M, Allen £13M and Berahino £13M, all these playeres more expensive than Crouch who was our bigges purchase before that. Big picture and relative to other clubs he wasn't given that much. Granted he wasted what he was given!
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 13, 2019 14:27:10 GMT
Hughes spent a lot of money during his reign at Stoke. In addition we already had gathered a good group of players. The big problem was that he neglected defensive training, I believe what Wilson said, and he tried to play too sexy football which came back to bite us. After losing Arnie we only had Shaq able to do something special and at the same time he emptied the wardrobe of heads with the right mindset, like Huth, Whelan, Walters and Bardsley. During his time he bought Imbula £18M, Wimmer £18M, Shaq £13M, Allen £13M and Berahino £13M, all these playeres more expensive than Crouch who was our bigges purchase before that. Big picture and relative to other clubs he wasn't given that much. Granted he wasted what he was given! None before and none after have been given such money to spend. Not even Rowett who spent a fotune too.
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Post by rawli on Sept 13, 2019 15:21:43 GMT
Big picture and relative to other clubs he wasn't given that much. Granted he wasted what he was given! None before and none after have been given such money to spend. Not even Rowett who spent a fotune too. Not a great comparison seeing as prices sky rocketed during his tenure. When Pulis was manager we were amongst the highest spenders in the league at one point.
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 13, 2019 15:27:21 GMT
None before and none after have been given such money to spend. Not even Rowett who spent a fotune too. Not a great comparison seeing as prices sky rocketed during his tenure. When Pulis was manager we were amongst the highest spenders in the league at one point. True, but to claim Hughes didn't spend a lot of money is taking it a bit out of proportions in my opinion.
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Post by rawli on Sept 13, 2019 15:33:54 GMT
Not a great comparison seeing as prices sky rocketed during his tenure. When Pulis was manager we were amongst the highest spenders in the league at one point. True, but to claim Hughes didn't spend a lot of money is taking it a bit out of proportions in my opinion. I did say relatively to be fair 😀
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Post by okeydokeystokie2 on Sept 13, 2019 15:42:53 GMT
I have a lot of sympathy and respect for the Coates family. I agree that without Peter's determination and money we would not have enjoyed those golden 10 years in the Premier League.
However, the comparisons of running a football club to a normal business are difficult. If you install a machine or some software, you know what you're going to get. You don't with players and managers. Past performance is not necessarily an indicator of future results.
Since Peter returned in 2007 (?), they re-recruited Pulis, then had a smooth transition to Hughes. They backed both managers, almost too well. I would also argue that both Rowett and Jones were bold, ambitious, progressive appointments. Again, they backed Rowett.
They have looked after us as supporters. I am proud of the season ticket price freeze and away travel incentives. A refreshing change in today's money obsessed football world.
They have to make decisions with a degree of risk. Get it right and you're a genius. But make a mistake...
In hindsight, the timing of Hughes's dismissal and his replacement was badly judged. Easy to say now and they have to make that difficult decision and get the timing right.
I am one of those who would have stuck with MH until the end of the season, then made the change in a more planned way. Easy for me to say though sitting here, and I understand why they made the change when they did.
I'm a little saddened by some of the reactions to the Coates family. The family can only get involved in certain key decisions. After that, they have to trust the rest of their team to deliver.
The Coates family have put tens, maybe a hundred million of their own money into the football club. They'll probably never see that money back again and we are fortunate to have that level of backing. A locally based club with local ownership is something I'm proud of, and maybe we focus on the positives of what we have rather than the negatives of where we are at the moment.
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 13, 2019 17:10:37 GMT
True, but to claim Hughes didn't spend a lot of money is taking it a bit out of proportions in my opinion. I did say relatively to be fair 😀 Everything is, isn't it?
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