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Post by stokiedan17 on Sept 10, 2019 7:44:48 GMT
And no I’m not talking about this site. The environment around the club has been toxic since our first game in the championship. Impatient fans and booing the team every game has created this pressure on the players and management.
People will say oh we gave them a chance. Rowett got half a season and Nathan has got 6 games (with his own players) and the team got booed 2 games in to his appointment.
You can say Rowett got sacked because he had a pop at the fans. I don’t blame him. We as fans are disgraceful, Nathan comes out after home games and says “the fans were brilliant” and I think that’s complete bullshit. I sit and watch fans screaming abuse at our own players as soon as a single mistake is made. Booing, groaning impatient.
I wouldn’t blame the players if they are thinking why should I play for this lot. People say there is a disconnection between the players and fans. As a player why would you want to be connected to bill from blurton who’s been shouting abuse at you calling you shit and useless since your first misplace pass or dispossession.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2019 7:50:49 GMT
People haven’t even been booing every game. At home v QPR they did but since it’s been tame and the away support is great as always so what you on about? It’s quiet and people have left the ground but what do you expect.
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Post by Mint Berry Barks on Sept 10, 2019 7:53:50 GMT
You can't blame the fans for the product the club has put out over the past 2 and a bit seasons.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Sept 10, 2019 7:57:07 GMT
You think this is toxic? If anything the players have been getting off lightly so far, mainly due to most people being so apathetic they can't even be arsed to boo anymore.
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Post by Gob Bluth on Sept 10, 2019 8:07:18 GMT
I've been relatively pleased with the support the fans have given, I think the exception for me was Afobe but that's a different story.
Context is important here and you have to remember that normally our players are losing to a team that are paid a good amount less than our team. At home games when Stoke have created chances support has been good, I'd argue that when we've not created chances it's been fair. The other thing to touch on is numbers - we're getting closer to our none top tier days which was to be expected.
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Post by warringtonstokie on Sept 10, 2019 8:12:50 GMT
And no I’m not talking about this site. The environment around the club has been toxic since our first game in the championship. Impatient fans and booing the team every game has created this pressure on the players and management. People will say oh we gave them a chance. Rowett got half a season and Nathan has got 6 games (with his own players) and the team got booed 2 games in to his appointment. You can say Rowett got sacked because he had a pop at the fans. I don’t blame him. We as fans are disgraceful, Nathan comes out after home games and says “the fans were brilliant” and I think that’s complete bullshit. I sit and watch fans screaming abuse at our own players as soon as a single mistake is made. Booing, groaning impatient. I wouldn’t blame the players if they are thinking why should I play for this lot. People say there is a disconnection between the players and fans. As a player why would you want to be connected to bill from blurton who’s been shouting abuse at you calling you shit and useless since your first misplace pass or dispossession. This pretty much.
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Post by Davef on Sept 10, 2019 8:12:58 GMT
We've fallen from ninth place in the Premier League to bottom of the Championship in just over three years.
We haven't had a positive goal difference for over four years.
Our new manager has three wins in 26 league games, and none in his last twelve.
We haven't scored three goals in 78 games.
Harry Kane scored as many penalties last week than our entire team has in two years.
But it's all the fans' fault.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 10, 2019 8:20:58 GMT
More 'it's the fans' fucking bollocks.
It's a Stoke on Trent disease and its completely fucking moronic.
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Post by midtempo on Sept 10, 2019 8:21:20 GMT
You can't blame the fans for the product the club has put out over the past 2 and a bit seasons. I would say 3 and a bit seasons starting August 16. IMO Hughes job was saved at the end of the previous season by Mame Douf scoring 4 minutes from the end in the 2 - 1 home win in the last game of the season v WHU, because we we terrible after the League cup defeat at the bin dippers.
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Post by stroller on Sept 10, 2019 8:21:52 GMT
If you think it's toxic now you obviously weren't around in the time of Alan Ball, Kris Kamara and Jez Moxey. If we keep losing it will get worse.
Look, you may not like it, but people are free to support their team (or not) any way they like (legally). Why, because they they have paid a significant portion of their disposable income for the privilege to do so. It's a fact of life, when fans are unhappy with what they are seeing on the pitch, they boo. In this we are no different than any other football club anywhere in the world.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Sept 10, 2019 8:24:46 GMT
You think this is toxic? If anything the players have been getting off lightly so far, mainly due to most people being so apathetic they can't even be arsed to boo anymore. You missed an important point. “Mainly due to a lot of people being so apathetic they can’t even be arsed to turn up anymore”
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 10, 2019 8:25:15 GMT
We've gone from being in the shake-up as the best normal-sized club in the country to indisputably the worst side in the Championship in 3 years.
Not sure there's a manual that's been produced that tells fans how to handle a shitshow of those proportions - but I think Stoke fans have taken it about as well as you can.
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Post by danceswithclams on Sept 10, 2019 8:27:03 GMT
How many of these bollocks threads are we going to have each day?
They're almost as nauseating and utterly worthless as the many Pu*is Cult posts we endure on what seems like an hourly basis.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 10, 2019 8:34:06 GMT
And no I’m not talking about this site. The environment around the club has been toxic since our first game in the championship. Impatient fans and booing the team every game has created this pressure on the players and management. People will say oh we gave them a chance. Rowett got half a season and Nathan has got 6 games (with his own players) and the team got booed 2 games in to his appointment. You can say Rowett got sacked because he had a pop at the fans. I don’t blame him. We as fans are disgraceful, Nathan comes out after home games and says “the fans were brilliant” and I think that’s complete bullshit. I sit and watch fans screaming abuse at our own players as soon as a single mistake is made. Booing, groaning impatient. I wouldn’t blame the players if they are thinking why should I play for this lot. People say there is a disconnection between the players and fans. As a player why would you want to be connected to bill from blurton who’s been shouting abuse at you calling you shit and useless since your first misplace pass or dispossession. What a load of tripe that is,the fans this season have been with the team just like Jones has commented on lately which in itself is unbelievable for the crap we’ve put up with for 3 seasons.You really need to take a long hard look at yourself if you’re having a go at supporters at the minute
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Sept 10, 2019 8:36:29 GMT
And no I’m not talking about this site. The environment around the club has been toxic since our first game in the championship. Impatient fans and booing the team every game has created this pressure on the players and management. People will say oh we gave them a chance. Rowett got half a season and Nathan has got 6 games (with his own players) and the team got booed 2 games in to his appointment. You can say Rowett got sacked because he had a pop at the fans. I don’t blame him. We as fans are disgraceful, Nathan comes out after home games and says “the fans were brilliant” and I think that’s complete bullshit. I sit and watch fans screaming abuse at our own players as soon as a single mistake is made. Booing, groaning impatient. I wouldn’t blame the players if they are thinking why should I play for this lot. People say there is a disconnection between the players and fans. As a player why would you want to be connected to bill from blurton who’s been shouting abuse at you calling you shit and useless since your first misplace pass or dispossession. You think the support has been toxic i do not think you have seen anything yet thats even like toxic. Mostly the fans have been well behind the team & offered great encouragement till you see players not breaking sweat as Terry Conroy noted in the Birmingham game. This Saturday could be the day the fans really turn as people have had enough of paying good money to watch the utter crap thats been on show for nearly 3 years. Concede early on Saturday & you may see a very toxic atmosphere aimed mainly at the board i would expect.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 10, 2019 8:38:31 GMT
And no I’m not talking about this site. The environment around the club has been toxic since our first game in the championship. Impatient fans and booing the team every game has created this pressure on the players and management. People will say oh we gave them a chance. Rowett got half a season and Nathan has got 6 games (with his own players) and the team got booed 2 games in to his appointment. You can say Rowett got sacked because he had a pop at the fans. I don’t blame him. We as fans are disgraceful, Nathan comes out after home games and says “the fans were brilliant” and I think that’s complete bullshit. I sit and watch fans screaming abuse at our own players as soon as a single mistake is made. Booing, groaning impatient. I wouldn’t blame the players if they are thinking why should I play for this lot. People say there is a disconnection between the players and fans. As a player why would you want to be connected to bill from blurton who’s been shouting abuse at you calling you shit and useless since your first misplace pass or dispossession. You think the support has been toxic i do not think you have seen anything yet thats even like toxic. Mostly the fans have been well behind the team & offered great encouragement till you see players not breaking sweat as Terry Conroy noted in the Birmingham game. This Saturday could be the day the fans really turn as people have had enough of paying good money to watch the utter crap thats been on show for nearly 3 years. Concede early on Saturday & you may see a very toxic atmosphere aimed mainly at the board i would expect. Totally agree and will I be safe in the main stand considering what happened in the Birmingham game😄
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Sept 10, 2019 8:38:55 GMT
These get on my tits more than the Pulis threads.
I can’t even be arsed to dissect what utter bollocks this latest load of smegma is.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 10, 2019 8:38:58 GMT
More dick measuring garbage.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Sept 10, 2019 8:40:28 GMT
The away support is better and yet somehow we still play shit?
In our promotion season for many games it was a half empty stadium and yet .....
And in the Premier people were groaning at Fuller, Whelan etc and yet somehow we stayed there for 10 years By year 3 the BearPit had resigned and yet we went on to 3 consecutive 9th places?
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Post by SCFC92 on Sept 10, 2019 8:45:23 GMT
If there is one thing I won't accept is that our support is toxic or rubbish.
Some of the negativity on this board and on social frustrates me, and some of the comments on this board disgust me.
HOWEVER
When the whistle first blows during any match we have played over the last 3 years of our downward spiral the fans have been right behind the team. It is the team that then set the tone with their performances and so the crowd then react to this.
Our fans, at 3pm on a Saturday (Yes I know we don't always play at this time for the pedants amongst us) are fantastic, it's the following 90 minutes that have then set the tone for our support throughout the match and it has been the same for 3 years.
I'm actually shocked how well our attendances have held up, how well our fans still support the team during the 90 minutes of action.
This is both home and away.
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Post by future100 on Sept 10, 2019 9:10:09 GMT
And no I’m not talking about this site. The environment around the club has been toxic since our first game in the championship. Impatient fans and booing the team every game has created this pressure on the players and management. People will say oh we gave them a chance. Rowett got half a season and Nathan has got 6 games (with his own players) and the team got booed 2 games in to his appointment. You can say Rowett got sacked because he had a pop at the fans. I don’t blame him. We as fans are disgraceful, Nathan comes out after home games and says “the fans were brilliant” and I think that’s complete bullshit. I sit and watch fans screaming abuse at our own players as soon as a single mistake is made. Booing, groaning impatient. I wouldn’t blame the players if they are thinking why should I play for this lot. People say there is a disconnection between the players and fans. As a player why would you want to be connected to bill from blurton who’s been shouting abuse at you calling you shit and useless since your first misplace pass or dispossession. Don't know what your on mate but it must be potent, if you think what is being dished up is entertaining or value for money and we don't have a right to show our disgust (occasionally) you are with the fairies. You seem to forget that these players are amongst the highest paid in this league and we are bottom of the league, both the manager and the players are getting away with murder.
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Post by pipegatepotter on Sept 10, 2019 9:20:19 GMT
‘Why should I play for this lot’ is a silly statement. The thousands and thousands of pounds a week ‘this lot’ get paid should make them want to at least break sweat.
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Post by FranktheRabbit on Sept 10, 2019 9:29:08 GMT
The club is toxic in general, has been for 3-4 years, so this is bound to show through in some of the fans. It's natural after the high we have had for frustrations and negativity to come through and to be completely honest, I think we have been tame compared to other clubs/fans.
I think your generalising too much because I think for the most part, the fans have been pretty patient. The booing at QPR made me cringe, but again this was only a "section" of fans contributing to it. The only time I can think when it was completely toxic was the Bristol City game at home last season, but that wouldn't of happened if Rowett had kept his gob shut. I personally have heard no such abuse thrown towards Jones (collectively) and I think this comes from most fans realising he is quite a nice guy, regardless of how we are performing on the pitch and doesn't deserve a tirade of abuse. Again when it comes to the players, no chants ringing round the stadium personally singling out certain players. Yes, I have heard abuse thrown at certain players from individuals, but these tend to be your classic tanked up knuckle dragger that I heard shouting the same abuse when we were doing well in the Prem.
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Post by Gods on Sept 10, 2019 9:41:45 GMT
The club's not 'toxic', I'm not even sure what that means.
We've made some awful managerial appointments, pissed off the better incumbent players and signed some very average players.
It's still a better managerial job than most outside of the top flight for the right person.
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Post by Bullseye on Sept 10, 2019 9:43:21 GMT
I'm fascinated by what kind of brain chemistry makes some long-suffering fans of this football club, as a litany of those in charge drop bollock after bollock and serve up failing garbage, turn around to those of us in the same boat as them as conclude, "this is all YOUR fault".
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Post by dastokie on Sept 10, 2019 9:51:39 GMT
How many of these bollocks threads are we going to have each day? They're almost as nauseating and utterly worthless as the many Pu*is Cult posts we endure on what seems like an hourly basis. Stop replying in them then
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Post by mcw on Sept 10, 2019 10:01:27 GMT
I'm fascinated by what kind of brain chemistry makes some long-suffering fans of this football club, as a litany of those in charge drop bollock after bollock and serve up failing garbage, turn around to those of us in the same boat as them as conclude, "this is all YOUR fault". Yep, I can't quite believe that some people seem to think that we as the fans are the major contributor to this massive demise. I totally accept that the crowd can lift the players to get an extra 5% in games, but that only works when the crowd is appreciative of the effort and output of the team. We used to be the underdog and in those circumstances a pack mentality develops which means the crowd knew that that support was vital, it may have been the difference between a loss and a draw or a draw and a win. We are now poles apart from that, on paper we should be up near the top of this league but the team is operating as if it met yesterday in the car park round the back of the ground and they are still trying to learn each others names, never mind adapt a formation which is foreign to what they have played for most of their careers. It is staggering that there is not more dissent coming from the fans, who are in the majority sat there watching this car crash unwind in a state of quiet shock more than anything else (and who can blame them as there is certainly nothing to cheer on a consistent basis- maybe a good 10/20 minute spell here and there which is generally followed up by a capitulation of under-7 standard defending). If you think it is currently bad, then heaven help you as in my opinion the team is getting more support than it can rightly demand at this point in time and it could get a lot,lot,lot worse if things don't start to change in the right direction...
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Sept 10, 2019 10:06:41 GMT
Feels like all I see is tools blaming everything on our support.
Not just people on here either
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 10, 2019 10:08:31 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2019 10:16:30 GMT
The people to blame are the owners. They employ the people that run the club, they employ the people that coach and manage the team and they drive the recruitment strategy, either directly or indirectly based on who they employ.
The only time the fans, in my eyes, deserve criticism in recent times was the barracking of Afobe against QPR.
It was uncalled for at a time when the slate was supposed to be clean.
Other than that blip the fans have been remarkably calm about our spectacular fall from grace.
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