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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 1, 2019 13:01:13 GMT
Why would anyone play Butland? And dropping the only player that looks like scoring occassionally (Clucas) is novel too. Because Federici is wank an all. And Davies told Jones that Jesus is a myth He's not as wank as Butland currently though. Playing Butland sends out all sorts of wrong messages. |
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Post by mistergumby on Oct 1, 2019 13:13:48 GMT
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Post by PotterLog on Oct 1, 2019 13:17:16 GMT
Why would anyone play Butland? And dropping the only player that looks like scoring occassionally (Clucas) is novel too. Because Federici is wank an all. And Davies told Jones that Jesus is a myth But between just normal wank and I've-made-about-seven-goal-conceding-errors-in-eight-games wank...? At least give him the chance to get up to speed with Jack... |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 1, 2019 13:40:21 GMT
Think this was the bloke who was receiving the team news early a few weeks ago. Has Jones EVER not picked Clucas since he's been here? |
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Post by gingerninja on Oct 1, 2019 13:41:40 GMT
There's no way in the world Clucas will not start.
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Post by serpico on Oct 1, 2019 13:43:17 GMT
Think this was the bloke who was receiving the team news early a few weeks ago. Has Jones EVER not picked Clucas since he's been here? nope, he's the only player thats played every single game up to now, i believe. |
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Post by djralphy1984 on Oct 1, 2019 13:44:15 GMT
Has Jones EVER not picked Clucas since he's been here? nope, he's the only player thats played every single game up to now, i believe. Therefore due a "rest" meaning Allen will be back in so can see this as a possibility. |
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Post by roylandstoke on Oct 1, 2019 14:05:11 GMT
I am not too worried at all with the team and tactics being leaked to the opposition right now.
A much bigger problem would seem to be that these leaks aren't reaching our own players until it's too late in every game.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Oct 1, 2019 14:08:38 GMT
To be honest both Allen & Clucas offer pretty much nothing. At least only one of them is getting in the team now.
Butland & Allen having MUST PLAY clauses in their contracts.
If I was Jack I would be asking my agent to remove that because hes in such poor form and will never get a move to the Premier League for any amounts.
We are stuck with them both for years
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Post by jeycov on Oct 1, 2019 15:49:22 GMT
Think this was the bloke who was receiving the team news early a few weeks ago. A realistic selection |
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Oct 1, 2019 15:51:20 GMT
If Allen is going to play in Midfield then I would have dropped Clucas into LB personally.
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Post by potterspele on Oct 1, 2019 15:53:55 GMT
So weve not plugged the leak then. Whether or not this helps the opposition I dont know but it's pretty poor from whoever is doing it.
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Post by superalexneil on Oct 1, 2019 16:00:44 GMT
Its clearly a piss take. Surely not everyone is that stupid to believe it
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Post by lordb on Oct 1, 2019 16:43:22 GMT
To be honest both Allen & Clucas offer pretty much nothing. At least only one of them is getting in the team now. Butland & Allen having MUST PLAY clauses in their contracts. If I was Jack I would be asking my agent to remove that because hes in such poor form and will never get a move to the Premier League for any amounts. We are stuck with them both for years If they had 'must play' clauses in their contracts how come both players have been dropped earlier this season? |
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Post by DansViews on Oct 1, 2019 16:44:51 GMT
The leak has been plugged and is no longer getting in the team.
This is a guess.
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Post by nigerianstokie on Oct 1, 2019 16:54:56 GMT
To be honest both Allen & Clucas offer pretty much nothing. At least only one of them is getting in the team now. Butland & Allen having MUST PLAY clauses in their contracts. If I was Jack I would be asking my agent to remove that because hes in such poor form and will never get a move to the Premier League for any amounts. We are stuck with them both for years Clucas is our only midfielder to offer any goalscoring threat, and has been our best player so far this season, which admittedly isn’t the highest accolade right now. So to compare him with bumbling Joe is a tad insulting to him. The only way Butland or Allen get moves back to the top is if they reach the end of their contracts and someone takes a punt on a free. Allen is probably nigh on impossible even in that scenario as he will be 30+, and probably off the back of another 3 shite seasons of professional football. |
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Post by PotterLog on Oct 1, 2019 16:59:47 GMT
Its clearly a piss take. Surely not everyone is that stupid to believe it Odd time to start taking the piss? |
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Post by DansViews on Oct 1, 2019 18:04:11 GMT
See, absolute bull shit.
The leaker was Ryan Woods.
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Post by PotterLog on Oct 1, 2019 18:21:01 GMT
Well that’s good at least
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Oct 1, 2019 18:39:28 GMT
I think that this is a problem. How serious the problem is really depends on how tight a ship they run. If security is tight, and basically any leaks of information means summary dismisal - then it is serious. If security is lax - well then it may well be just a cleaner or something. Either way, it shouldn't happen. The FSA has recently been dealing with an identical case at a PL club. The employee responsible was sacked not surprisingly, but that club have also withdrawn the season card of the supporter who posted it on a message board after the club investigated and found out who it was. That was how we got involved. I’ve no idea whether Stoke would do the same but it might be something for the poster to think about. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2019 18:51:45 GMT
I think that this is a problem. How serious the problem is really depends on how tight a ship they run. If security is tight, and basically any leaks of information means summary dismisal - then it is serious. If security is lax - well then it may well be just a cleaner or something. Either way, it shouldn't happen. The FSA has recently been dealing with an identical case at a PL club. The employee responsible was sacked not surprisingly, but that club have also withdrawn the season card of the supporter who posted it on a message board after the club investigated and found out who it was. That was how we got involved. I’ve no idea whether Stoke would do the same but it might be something for the poster to think about. Thanks Malcolm. Informative indeed.
I would just like to point out that I have never leaked a team sheet. I know that that was fairly obvious - but some on here might just jump to the wrong conclusion.
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Post by Gifton on Oct 9, 2019 17:39:34 GMT
It's .......Rebekah Vardy's account.
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Post by iglugluk on Oct 9, 2019 18:29:29 GMT
The FSA has recently been dealing with an identical case at a PL club. The employee responsible was sacked not surprisingly, but that club have also withdrawn the season card of the supporter who posted it on a message board after the club investigated and found out who it was. That was how we got involved. I’ve no idea whether Stoke would do the same but it might be something for the poster to think about. Thanks Malcolm. Informative indeed.
I would just like to point out that I have never leaked a team sheet. I know that that was fairly obvious - but some on here might just jump to the wrong conclusion.
One would assume the club involved refunded the portion of the season card that they have withdrawn, I doubt that anybody not employed by a club has any requirement to keep secrets on behalf of the club as long as they're not posting libellous material. The supporter who wants to post potentially inflammatory information should also be sensible enough to protect their identity when doing so.. not difficult. |
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Post by PotterLog on Oct 10, 2019 2:00:00 GMT
I think that this is a problem. How serious the problem is really depends on how tight a ship they run. If security is tight, and basically any leaks of information means summary dismisal - then it is serious. If security is lax - well then it may well be just a cleaner or something. Either way, it shouldn't happen. The FSA has recently been dealing with an identical case at a PL club. The employee responsible was sacked not surprisingly, but that club have also withdrawn the season card of the supporter who posted it on a message board after the club investigated and found out who it was. That was how we got involved. I’ve no idea whether Stoke would do the same but it might be something for the poster to think about. Sounds like an intriguing case Malcolm, anything public about it yet? |
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Oct 10, 2019 14:38:15 GMT
The FSA has recently been dealing with an identical case at a PL club. The employee responsible was sacked not surprisingly, but that club have also withdrawn the season card of the supporter who posted it on a message board after the club investigated and found out who it was. That was how we got involved. I’ve no idea whether Stoke would do the same but it might be something for the poster to think about. Sounds like an intriguing case Malcolm, anything public about it yet? I don't think so. I will check with our caseworker just where things are up to. When you get into appeals and then possibly a reference to the Independent Football Ombudsman, things can sometimes take for ever. The club in question has what is in my view a wholly unreasonable term in its conditions of sale for its season tickets that holders must at all times and in all places (including social media) uphold the good name and reputation of the club. That might be Ok for employees but customers ????……………….. I think that, to put it mildly, in the last few years some posters on here might fall well foul of such a clause  |
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Post by realstokebloke on Oct 10, 2019 14:51:44 GMT
Sounds like an intriguing case Malcolm, anything public about it yet? I don't think so. I will check with our caseworker just where things are up to. When you get into appeals and then possibly a reference to the Independent Football Ombudsman, things can sometimes take for ever. The club in question has what is in my view a wholly unreasonable term in its conditions of sale for its season tickets that holders must at all times and in all places (including social media) uphold the good name and reputation of the club. That might be Ok for employees but customers ????……………….. I think that, to put it mildly, in the last few years some posters on here might fall well foul of such a clause
It is rarely anything BUT dis-reputational (is that even a word?) on here.
And quite right too.
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Post by PotterLog on Oct 10, 2019 15:20:13 GMT
Sounds like an intriguing case Malcolm, anything public about it yet? I don't think so. I will check with our caseworker just where things are up to. When you get into appeals and then possibly a reference to the Independent Football Ombudsman, things can sometimes take for ever. The club in question has what is in my view a wholly unreasonable term in its conditions of sale for its season tickets that holders must at all times and in all places (including social media) uphold the good name and reputation of the club. That might be Ok for employees but customers ????……………….. I think that, to put it mildly, in the last few years some posters on here might fall well foul of such a clause Thank you Malcolm. Seems completely draconian and bordering on tyrannical. What if the “name and reputation” of the club is not “good”? People pay hundreds of pounds for a ST in exchange for having their speech controlled like they’re in China or something? Crazy. |
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Oct 10, 2019 15:43:12 GMT
I don't think so. I will check with our caseworker just where things are up to. When you get into appeals and then possibly a reference to the Independent Football Ombudsman, things can sometimes take for ever. The club in question has what is in my view a wholly unreasonable term in its conditions of sale for its season tickets that holders must at all times and in all places (including social media) uphold the good name and reputation of the club. That might be Ok for employees but customers ????……………….. I think that, to put it mildly, in the last few years some posters on here might fall well foul of such a clause Thank you Malcolm. Seems completely draconian and bordering on tyrannical. What if the “name and reputation” of the club is not “good”? People pay hundreds of pounds for a ST in exchange for having their speech controlled like they’re in China or something? Crazy. I couldn't have put it better myself, potterlog. We actually have another ongoing case with the same club involving that clause which is even worse than this one which you wouldn't believe, but the supporter involved doesn't want publicity at this stage in case it makes resolution more difficult. One thing about working on these things at a national level, is that, for all our faults, it does make you appreciate Stoke city ! |
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Post by PotterLog on Oct 10, 2019 16:13:38 GMT
Thank you Malcolm. Seems completely draconian and bordering on tyrannical. What if the “name and reputation” of the club is not “good”? People pay hundreds of pounds for a ST in exchange for having their speech controlled like they’re in China or something? Crazy. I couldn't have put it better myself, potterlog. We actually have another ongoing case with the same club involving that clause which is even worse than this one which you wouldn't believe, but the supporter involved doesn't want publicity at this stage in case it makes resolution more difficult. One thing about working on these things at a national level, is that, for all our faults, it does make you appreciate Stoke city ! I’d like to follow those cases Malcolm, hope to see stuff come public about them.. or if you have any “semi-public” tidbits as and when... 😉 |
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Post by PotteringThrough on Oct 11, 2019 20:55:03 GMT
I couldn't have put it better myself, potterlog. We actually have another ongoing case with the same club involving that clause which is even worse than this one which you wouldn't believe, but the supporter involved doesn't want publicity at this stage in case it makes resolution more difficult. One thing about working on these things at a national level, is that, for all our faults, it does make you appreciate Stoke city ! “semi-public” tidbits as and when... 😉 Get a room ... |
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