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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 23, 2019 12:10:23 GMT
If he's a likeable guy or not really doesn't matter! This is a result-based game, and when the results over some time aren't good enough you simply get the sack. DO IT NOW!
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Post by callas12 on Sept 23, 2019 12:39:46 GMT
Our worst league start for 30 years I heard mentioned on the TV the other day, & that season we got relegated from league 2 the report said! Unbelievable amount of faith the board have had in him. It's either going to be masterstroke by them or a deluded disaster. Cant help but thinking the latter the longer this all goes on.
He really is on borrowed time and this could be quite a crucial next 4/5 days for him
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2019 13:41:51 GMT
Our worst league start for 30 years I heard mentioned on the TV the other day, & that season we got relegated from league 2 the report said! Unbelievable amount of faith the board have had in him. It's either going to be masterstroke by them or a deluded disaster. Cant help but thinking the latter the longer this all goes on. He really is on borrowed time and this could be quite a crucial next 4/5 days for him There was no league 2 at the time, but a Second Division which is the Championship these days. We did get relegated back in the day, but we never gave up, and came back. We will again.
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Post by stokeson on Sept 23, 2019 17:08:08 GMT
Our worst league start for 30 years I heard mentioned on the TV the other day, & that season we got relegated from league 2 the report said! Unbelievable amount of faith the board have had in him. It's either going to be masterstroke by them or a deluded disaster. Cant help but thinking the latter the longer this all goes on. He really is on borrowed time and this could be quite a crucial next 4/5 days for him There was no league 2 at the time, but a Second Division which is the Championship these days. We did get relegated back in the day, but we never gave up, and came back. We will again. Insanity : doing the same thing over and over again yet expecting a different outcome.....
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Post by jezzascfc on Sept 23, 2019 17:12:03 GMT
4 pts minimum v Forest and Udders or he must be a goner.
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Post by robrigo on Sept 23, 2019 17:17:11 GMT
Looks like they’re going to give him 10 league games doesn’t it?
I can’t begin to fathom why this guy is still in post- unless as he states, the structures he’s put in place throughout the club will benefit the club for years to come. I wonder what they are then? Because league one will devastate this club for years to come.
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Post by harrysburrow on Sept 23, 2019 17:18:54 GMT
In any Khmer walk of life, he would have gone by now. He's very fortunate to still be in a job.
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Post by christhepotter on Sept 23, 2019 17:27:43 GMT
In any Khmer walk of life, he would have gone by now. He's very fortunate to still be in a job. I’m astounded he’s still in a job , 2pts out of 24 , sack him now
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Post by harrysburrow on Sept 23, 2019 17:29:36 GMT
In any Khmer walk of life, he would have gone by now. He's very fortunate to still be in a job. I’m astounded he’s still in a job , 2pts out of 24 , sack him now He'd have run out of written warnings end of last season mate?
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Post by roylandstoke on Sept 23, 2019 17:35:29 GMT
What do people find so likeable about him? I genuinely don't get it. I think he benefits from simply not being Rowett.
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Post by silsdenstokie on Sept 23, 2019 17:36:54 GMT
No more likeable than Rowett for me
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Post by thevoid on Sept 23, 2019 17:49:10 GMT
4 pts minimum v Forest and Udders or he must be a goner. 6 points, nothing less. We need wins
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Post by stokeykez on Sept 23, 2019 20:43:07 GMT
We crash out of the cup and the pressure will really be on
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Post by chad on Sept 23, 2019 21:07:31 GMT
If we lose to Crawley ( fucking Crawley) he had to go tomorrow night
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Post by slother on Sept 23, 2019 21:33:30 GMT
I do find it strange the way in which Nathan Jones is blamed for the performance of this club.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Sept 23, 2019 21:40:34 GMT
I do find it strange the way in which Nathan Jones is blamed for the performance of this club. Well...not that strange is it. He is the manager and bought a shed load of crap players while getting us playing some of the most turgid performances in a long time.
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Post by serpico on Sept 23, 2019 21:45:48 GMT
I do find it strange the way in which Nathan Jones is blamed for the performance of this club. Our problems obviously go deeper than just the manager but who else is to blame for on the pitch matters ?
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Post by slother on Sept 23, 2019 21:46:15 GMT
I'm sure he'd have bought better players if he could. I'm sure the hundred million negative net spend in the last ten years hasn't helped.
Ah well. I think I'll open a pitchfork emporium up outside the ground. I expect we'll be hounding increasingly poor managers out for years to come. Who'd want the job of a lifeguard trying to save a drowning man with lead boots on?
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 23, 2019 21:47:18 GMT
4 pts minimum v Forest and Udders or he must be a goner. Arent huddersfield pretty much the only team we've best in last 3 years...certainly feels like that
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Sept 23, 2019 21:54:06 GMT
4 pts minimum v Forest and Udders or he must be a goner. Arent huddersfield pretty much the only team we've best in last 3 years...certainly feels like that Wasn’t it Lambert’s first and only win apart from the last game of the season when we were already relegated. Seem to remember lambert doing windmills up the touch line when we scored! I can’t see us doing better than 2 draws from next two league games
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Post by slother on Sept 23, 2019 21:54:50 GMT
I do find it strange the way in which Nathan Jones is blamed for the performance of this club. Our problems obviously go deeper than just the manager but who else is to blame for on the pitch matters ? Same individuals and systems who were to blame for the failure under Mark Hughes, Paul Lambert and Gary Rowett? The off-pitch affects the on-pitch: it's a football club.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Sept 23, 2019 21:58:43 GMT
Our problems obviously go deeper than just the manager but who else is to blame for on the pitch matters ? Same individuals and systems who were to blame for the failure under Mark Hughes, Paul Lambert and Gary Rowett? The off-pitch affects the on-pitch: it's a football club. Have the off pitch issues worsened since last season to match the on pitch implosion this season?
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Post by slother on Sept 23, 2019 22:01:53 GMT
Same individuals and systems who were to blame for the failure under Mark Hughes, Paul Lambert and Gary Rowett? The off-pitch affects the on-pitch: it's a football club. Have the off pitch issues worsened since last season to match the on pitch implosion this season? I don't know. Maybe? Have they improved?
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Sept 23, 2019 22:09:59 GMT
Have the off pitch issues worsened since last season to match the on pitch implosion this season? I don't know. Maybe? Have they improved? Well it’s unlikely they’ve gotten dramatically worse in a year unlike results on the pitch, so all other things being equal this manager is under performing
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Post by slother on Sept 23, 2019 22:15:28 GMT
That's assuming that 12 months is the maximum time that input can influence output isn't it.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Sept 23, 2019 22:19:57 GMT
That's assuming that 12 months is the maximum time that input can influence output isn't it. Ok so immediately after Rowett left things still go worse under this manager?
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Post by slother on Sept 23, 2019 22:24:54 GMT
We spent £6m in the summer. Recouped £1m for Pieters. Written off millions on Saido. Millions on Wimmer. Millions on Imbula. Millions on Afobe. Millions on Bauer.
And people have the idiocy to blame Nathan Jones for recruiting shite.
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Post by skip on Sept 23, 2019 22:38:41 GMT
In any Khmer walk of life, he would have gone by now. He's very fortunate to still be in a job. In any what walk of life?
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Post by sheriffofrockridge on Sept 23, 2019 22:53:03 GMT
In any Khmer walk of life, he would have gone by now. He's very fortunate to still be in a job. In any what walk of life? Harrysburrow should be Khmer Rouge with embarrassment for that post.
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Post by mrcoke on Sept 23, 2019 23:03:08 GMT
What do people find so likeable about him? I genuinely don't get it. I think he benefits from simply not being Rowett. In a way that is correct, the club threw the cheque book at Rowett and it didn't work and they ended up with a manager who was losing again after a very negative run of unbeaten games and he was clearly falling out with players and spouting off about the fans. Jones has been a gentleman, taken the blame on his shoulders and had little money to work with on signings. The club know they have not backed him with big name signings like Rowett. The club were snubbed by experienced managers when Hughes were sacked and, after Lambert's falure to spark the team, went for Rowett an experienced up and coming manager who knew the Championship. They stand no chance of getting an ex Premier league manager taking over a club at the bottom of the Championship, who is going to put their head in the noose? They are only going to be able to sign another young ambitious manager like Rowett and Jones. If Stoke sack Jones now it will be the 4th sacking in less than 2 years, what young manager is going to join a club that sacks the manager "every 6 months" apart from a chancer who would try is luck. Jones has shown he can manage successfully at the lower level and achieved promotion, the club are going to give him every opportunity to turn it round before calling it a day. Only if Stoke can show they are prepared to give a manager every chance to succeed will another manager be prepared to take the reigns and risk losing his reputation.
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