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Post by serpico on Nov 9, 2019 17:36:31 GMT
I was underwhelmed by his appointment but i've never said i wouldn't give him a chance, i don't know why you keep intimating i'm not giving him a chance ?... my problem was with the clubs decision to allow him to continue his job with NI, which i find bizarre. Your actions (posts on here) are hardly reflective of "giving him a chance", are they? My criticism has mostly been of the club for this weird arrangement with NI, i don't like it. I didn't/don't know much about MoN which is why i was underwhelmed by the appointment but Its not like i'm on here saying "he's shite, why have we appointed him" is it ?
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Post by x1jlf on Nov 9, 2019 17:40:33 GMT
Sorry but that’s nonsense if gets to 50 points from here he will have done very well Ignore him mate he's on a wind up. He coughed the other day to posting in the literary style of a 4 year old child in order to wind people up. So I assume he applies the same thought process to the content of his posts as well as the grammar. Listen I put cash on him today. I posted we would win by 3 goals. Not far away. I am deadly serious why should I not be. Professor Biscuit😑
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Post by generationex on Nov 9, 2019 17:42:19 GMT
Pulis crew are quiet tonight... MORE THAN THAT FFS let’s not have this bollocks. The main benefit of not having Pulis was avoiding the one-up shite. If we lose next week will it be ok to chirrup the opposite? A fresh start must have been a major factor in choosing the new manager, let’s give him a chance. This bollocks should be called out for what it is : splitter bullshit. Enough.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Nov 9, 2019 17:43:04 GMT
Ignore him mate he's on a wind up. He coughed the other day to posting in the literary style of a 4 year old child in order to wind people up. So I assume he applies the same thought process to the content of his posts as well as the grammar. Listen I put cash on him today. I posted we would win by 3 goals. Not far away. I am deadly serious why should I not be. Professor Biscuit😑 Did you or did you not state that you deliberately post in that ridiculous style to wind people up and get their attention?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 9, 2019 17:45:42 GMT
Nice and understated at full-time. Goo on, Mickey lad! Absolutely perfect.
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Post by x1jlf on Nov 9, 2019 17:49:23 GMT
Listen I put cash on him today. I posted we would win by 3 goals. Not far away. I am deadly serious why should I not be. Professor Biscuit😑 Did you or did you not state that you deliberately post in that ridiculous style to wind people up and get their attention? I am a Stoke supporter and yes I posted as a drunk 4 year old initially to grab a little limelight from the all stars brigade. It's called forceful marketerring. I had an opinion I wanted to get through. I certainly got your attention. Anyhow I am behind the new boss as I stated earlier. I believed we would win by 3 today and I do truly believe with this squad and a couple of additions in Jan we could and should still be in the play offs. If you don't believe that then that's your opinion which I respect. Are you another stalker of me 🙄🙄
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2019 17:50:16 GMT
Spoke very well in his first post-match interview. Sensible, straight-forward, level-headed thoughts and a real clarity in his answers.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Nov 9, 2019 17:53:50 GMT
Did you or did you not state that you deliberately post in that ridiculous style to wind people up and get their attention? I am a Stoke supporter and yes I posted as a drunk 4 year old initially to grab a little limelight from the all stars brigade. It's called forceful marketerring. I had an opinion I wanted to get through. I certainly got your attention. Anyhow I am behind the new boss as I stated earlier. I believed we would win by 3 today and I do truly believe with this squad and a couple of additions in Jan we could and should still be in the play offs. If you don't believe that then that's your opinion which I respect. Are you another stalker of me 🙄🙄 So you are a wind up merchant. Ok. Glad we cleared that up. I think you'll find I was engaging in a conversation with Benji and you butted in. How does that make ME a stalker of you?
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Post by x1jlf on Nov 9, 2019 17:54:13 GMT
Did you or did you not state that you deliberately post in that ridiculous style to wind people up and get their attention? I am a Stoke supporter and yes I posted as a drunk 4 year old initially to grab a little limelight from the all stars brigade. It's called forceful marketerring. I had an opinion I wanted to get through. I certainly got your attention. Anyhow I am behind the new boss as I stated earlier. I believed we would win by 3 today and I do truly believe with this squad and a couple of additions in Jan we could and should still be in the play offs. If you don't believe that then that's your opinion which I respect. Are you another stalker of me 🙄🙄 Still think Mcinnes is a better manager😂😂😂
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Nov 9, 2019 17:57:38 GMT
I am a Stoke supporter and yes I posted as a drunk 4 year old initially to grab a little limelight from the all stars brigade. It's called forceful marketerring. I had an opinion I wanted to get through. I certainly got your attention. Anyhow I am behind the new boss as I stated earlier. I believed we would win by 3 today and I do truly believe with this squad and a couple of additions in Jan we could and should still be in the play offs. If you don't believe that then that's your opinion which I respect. Are you another stalker of me 🙄🙄 Still think Mcinnes is a better manager😂😂😂 You would Derek, you would.
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Post by mrred on Nov 9, 2019 18:00:56 GMT
Good start but if he is any good he should get this squad into playoffs Oh please do fuckoff. If he keeps us up he will have done very well. Playoffs would be miracle work. We are 15 points behind them! If he keeps us up it would be a miracle as far as I'm concerned. The fact that people are willing him on to fail is fucking barking.
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Post by x1jlf on Nov 9, 2019 18:01:50 GMT
Still think Mcinnes is a better manager😂😂😂 You would Derek, you would. This is a happy day lads let's get into a huddle and celebrate ❤️
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2019 18:03:06 GMT
Did you or did you not state that you deliberately post in that ridiculous style to wind people up and get their attention? I am a Stoke supporter and yes I posted as a drunk 4 year old initially to grab a little limelight from the all stars brigade. It's called forceful marketerring. I had an opinion I wanted to get through. God help us .....
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Nov 9, 2019 18:05:16 GMT
Did you or did you not state that you deliberately post in that ridiculous style to wind people up and get their attention? I am a Stoke supporter and yes I posted as a drunk 4 year old initially to grab a little limelight from the all stars brigade. It's called forceful marketerring. I had an opinion I wanted to get through. I certainly got your attention. Anyhow I am behind the new boss as I stated earlier. I believed we would win by 3 today and I do truly believe with this squad and a couple of additions in Jan we could and should still be in the play offs. If you don't believe that then that's your opinion which I respect. Are you another stalker of me 🙄🙄 It’s called being a childish immature clown
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Post by x1jlf on Nov 9, 2019 18:09:31 GMT
I am a Stoke supporter and yes I posted as a drunk 4 year old initially to grab a little limelight from the all stars brigade. It's called forceful marketerring. I had an opinion I wanted to get through. I certainly got your attention. Anyhow I am behind the new boss as I stated earlier. I believed we would win by 3 today and I do truly believe with this squad and a couple of additions in Jan we could and should still be in the play offs. If you don't believe that then that's your opinion which I respect. Are you another stalker of me 🙄🙄 It’s called being a childish immature clown I will behave from now that I am at the top table👍
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2019 18:12:26 GMT
It’s called being a childish immature clown I will behave from now that I am at the top table👍 What?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2019 18:15:51 GMT
We really do need an age restriction on this MB. Fifteen years old minimum. The only problem with that though, is that I would probably fail the age restriction at the other end of the scale.
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Post by FullerMagic on Nov 9, 2019 18:47:47 GMT
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Post by Clayton Wood on Nov 9, 2019 19:00:06 GMT
How are you going to fill your time between now and the January window mate?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2019 20:11:57 GMT
Dave he's an attention seeking troll and has been proved to be a bluffer time and time again. I'm assuming he's talking about 'nightharvest' who it looks like has either been banned or deleted his account following an exchange with Old Clem where he lost it and called him mentally ill. I didn't see the exchange so don't know the full in's and out's and of course Ibby will never respond to a straight question, and even if he did you would need a four year old child to interpret what he'd written, a style he admitted the other day he affects deliberately to wind others up. Don't forget that there was speculation at the time that Ibby and nighhavearest, were one and the same poster.
So Ibby has deleted himself? That would not surprise me at all.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Nov 9, 2019 20:22:25 GMT
Dave he's an attention seeking troll and has been proved to be a bluffer time and time again. I'm assuming he's talking about 'nightharvest' who it looks like has either been banned or deleted his account following an exchange with Old Clem where he lost it and called him mentally ill. I didn't see the exchange so don't know the full in's and out's and of course Ibby will never respond to a straight question, and even if he did you would need a four year old child to interpret what he'd written, a style he admitted the other day he affects deliberately to wind others up. Don't forget that there was speculation at the time that Ibby and nighhavearest, were one and the same poster. So Ibby has deleted himself? That would not surprise me at all.
I meant xl5 not Ibby but the sentiment is the same for both.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2019 20:33:51 GMT
Don't forget that there was speculation at the time that Ibby and nighhavearest, were one and the same poster. So Ibby has deleted himself? That would not surprise me at all.
I meant xl5 not Ibby but the sentiment is the same for both. Possibly all three are one and the same ....
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Post by FullerMagic on Nov 10, 2019 15:57:30 GMT
Interesting column from Gareth McAuley who played for him for years, suggesting it's a mistake for him to combine jobs.. www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sunday-life/gareth-mcauley-michael-oneill-is-walking-into-stoke-double-trouble-38676255.htmlMichael O'Neill is a perfect fit for Stoke City.
He possesses all the qualities and attributes needed to turn the struggling club around.
Having watched them recently against West Brom, Stoke have a squad packed full of talent but they are missing structure, direction and belief.
Michael, having worked with him for the last eight years, can instil all of that and much more.
It's not a gamble by the Stoke hierarchy. They will have done their homework on Michael and understand how he can reinvigorate their squad of players.
But in my view, it is unwise for Michael to combine the Stoke City job with the Northern Ireland position.
I think he is leaving himself open to criticism from the Stoke fans and questions about his commitment. If Stoke supporters don't believe Michael is 100% committed, they were certainly let him know.
Even now, as we enter the international break, this could have been a period when Michael spent time on the training ground with the players, starting to get his message, system and ideas across. He obviously feels he has unfinished business with Northern Ireland, but I think a clean break would have been in order.
Michael excels as a manager due to being organised, his attention to detail and excellent preparation, yet this could suffer if he is concentrating on two jobs.
I really hope not - he has transformed Northern Ireland's fortunes over the last eight years, not just on the pitch, and I'm so pleased he has been given this opportunity.
He gives the players great confidence. We are always well prepared and the incredible information he has given us over the years has allowed the players in the squad to continually punch above our weight on the international stage.
There are no grey areas with Michael, he is a great communicator and makes you believe in every aspect of his plan.
He travels the length of the country to stay in touch with his players, even just to have a quiet cup of coffee.
Michael just didn't manage the senior team, he took a major interest in all the under-age sides, the coaches, Club NI, the McDonald's grassroots programme and played a huge role in the infrastructure of the IFA.
I know some people in England may be sceptical of Michael because he's never managed over here.
But how do you get experience if you are never given that opportunity?
Michael, with Northern Ireland, was much more than an international manager. He lived and breathed it every day of the week and this will stand him in good stead in club management.
Stoke are a team crying out for Michael's expertise.
I expect him to bring stability to the club, wheel and deal in the January transfer market and move the club away from danger in the Championship.
If he doesn't, you can be sure the Stoke fans will point to the fact he is still associated with Northern Ireland.
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Post by FullerMagic on Nov 10, 2019 16:03:44 GMT
Similar sentiments from the BBC Northern Ireland commentator here who thinks there should have been a clean break.. www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000b6bnFrom 6 minutes on....
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Post by scfcno1fan on Nov 10, 2019 16:08:09 GMT
Interesting column from Gareth McAuley who played for him for years, suggesting it's a mistake for him to combine jobs.. www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sunday-life/gareth-mcauley-michael-oneill-is-walking-into-stoke-double-trouble-38676255.htmlMichael O'Neill is a perfect fit for Stoke City.
He possesses all the qualities and attributes needed to turn the struggling club around.
Having watched them recently against West Brom, Stoke have a squad packed full of talent but they are missing structure, direction and belief.
Michael, having worked with him for the last eight years, can instil all of that and much more.
It's not a gamble by the Stoke hierarchy. They will have done their homework on Michael and understand how he can reinvigorate their squad of players.
But in my view, it is unwise for Michael to combine the Stoke City job with the Northern Ireland position.
I think he is leaving himself open to criticism from the Stoke fans and questions about his commitment. If Stoke supporters don't believe Michael is 100% committed, they were certainly let him know.
Even now, as we enter the international break, this could have been a period when Michael spent time on the training ground with the players, starting to get his message, system and ideas across. He obviously feels he has unfinished business with Northern Ireland, but I think a clean break would have been in order.
Michael excels as a manager due to being organised, his attention to detail and excellent preparation, yet this could suffer if he is concentrating on two jobs.
I really hope not - he has transformed Northern Ireland's fortunes over the last eight years, not just on the pitch, and I'm so pleased he has been given this opportunity.
He gives the players great confidence. We are always well prepared and the incredible information he has given us over the years has allowed the players in the squad to continually punch above our weight on the international stage.
There are no grey areas with Michael, he is a great communicator and makes you believe in every aspect of his plan.
He travels the length of the country to stay in touch with his players, even just to have a quiet cup of coffee.
Michael just didn't manage the senior team, he took a major interest in all the under-age sides, the coaches, Club NI, the McDonald's grassroots programme and played a huge role in the infrastructure of the IFA.
I know some people in England may be sceptical of Michael because he's never managed over here.
But how do you get experience if you are never given that opportunity?
Michael, with Northern Ireland, was much more than an international manager. He lived and breathed it every day of the week and this will stand him in good stead in club management.
Stoke are a team crying out for Michael's expertise.
I expect him to bring stability to the club, wheel and deal in the January transfer market and move the club away from danger in the Championship.
If he doesn't, you can be sure the Stoke fans will point to the fact he is still associated with Northern Ireland.
He’s right tbf. He shouldn’t be combining both.
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Post by stokeykez on Nov 10, 2019 18:24:14 GMT
For me he can take charge of the 2 up coming internationals but they should be seeking a new manager for march.
Oneill will have enough to do with stoke come march as it will either be a real relegation battle or we will be safe.
Still think this is stokes way of getting out of compensation
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Post by Miles Offside on Nov 10, 2019 18:56:30 GMT
An impressive start. For the first time in ages, we looked like a team.
I liked the way we attacked in numbers (how many of ours in the box when Allen scored?) and with a bit of flair. A refreshing change. Hope it's a sign of things to come.
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Post by elystokie on Nov 10, 2019 21:23:00 GMT
For me he can take charge of the 2 up coming internationals but they should be seeking a new manager for march. Oneill will have enough to do with stoke come march as it will either be a real relegation battle or we will be safe. Still think this is stokes way of getting out of compensation Or they wouldn't let us talk to him unless we agreed to that as a condition? If so, for me it was worth it. We've paid compensation, if the N.I FA wanted more money they'd have asked and probably got it. After 8 years this must mean a hell of a lot to him personally so he might have insisted on the condition, we just don't know and if we don't go down it doesn't matter.
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Post by thestatusquo on Nov 11, 2019 16:38:24 GMT
I can honestly say I’d never heard of the bloke. As regards his appointment I would say this is another huge gamble due to lack of club management at any decent level this for me is on par with jones appointment and will either be a great success or yet another unmitigated disaster If you've never heard of him, why comment? I’m sorry I thought this was a Stoke City discussion board. I’ll ask your permission next time 🙄
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Post by markby on Nov 11, 2019 17:10:06 GMT
For me he can take charge of the 2 up coming internationals but they should be seeking a new manager for march. Oneill will have enough to do with stoke come march as it will either be a real relegation battle or we will be safe. Still think this is stokes way of getting out of compensation Or they wouldn't let us talk to him unless we agreed to that as a condition? If so, for me it was worth it. We've paid compensation, if the N.I FA wanted more money they'd have asked and probably got it. After 8 years this must mean a hell of a lot to him personally so he might have insisted on the condition, we just don't know and if we don't go down it doesn't matter. Michael's contract with the IFA will have set out the general terms under which they would permit him to talk to another employer, but it couldn't have foreseen the present exact scenario. And they won't have played silly buggers just because there happen to be a couple (four?) vital games coming up - they have a too good relationship with him for that. Therefore this temporary double-jobbing will almost certainly have been at Michael's behest - not least because he may not have expected to have agreed final terms with Stoke quite so quickly.
As for the IFA possibly demanding more money from Stoke etc, that was never going to happen, not least because his contract specified exactly how much any compo would be - 'X' for another International job, 'Y' for a Prem level job, 'Z' for a Championship-level job etc.
But I'm sure you're right about the 8 years bit. One of the reasons for Michael's success is that he is very loyal - players, fans and employer - meaning he receives the same loyalty back in return. And from what v.little I know of Stoke, it is not quality that your players lack, but motivation and application. Michael is quite capable of coaxing that out of players, as his 8 years in charge of NI showed.
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