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Post by crouchpotato1 on Aug 31, 2019 18:02:31 GMT
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 31, 2019 18:03:20 GMT
Pep wants a new challenge 😎 He wouldn’t know where to start. Horses for courses. We need a man who has repeatedly saved clubs from similar positions in the past. Guardiola would lead us to promotion doing it part time with his eyes closed.
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Post by bagnallboothen on Aug 31, 2019 18:04:46 GMT
He wouldn’t know where to start. Horses for courses. We need a man who has repeatedly saved clubs from similar positions in the past. Guardiola would lead us to promotion doing it part time with his eyes closed. Wonder if he'd do it with fast attacking football giving us a team to be proud of? If so, he sounds ideal.
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Post by Clem Fandango on Aug 31, 2019 18:05:28 GMT
In my eyes he needs to pick a new CEO then him and said CEO pick a new technical director and then him, new CEO and technical director pick a manager/ head coach who fits the philosophy of the club. It’s not that difficult.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 31, 2019 18:05:53 GMT
So a bloke shaking his head is now the equivalent of a thumbs down from a Roman Emperor?!... Orate then, I think we need more evidence that he's "done"
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2019 18:07:05 GMT
I have it on good authority that Steve Freeth told Coates that Jones was the manager we needed to appoint. West Brom twat stitched us right up. Why would a marketing bloke from bet365 be choosing the Stoke manager? 52:16. "bet365 PR man from Longton portakabin to current day"
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Post by thisfootballclub on Aug 31, 2019 18:08:36 GMT
Why would a marketing bloke from bet365 be choosing the Stoke manager? 52:16. *Cringe* Scholes looks embarrassed.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2019 18:12:17 GMT
They haven't got the first fucking clue what they're doing. Between them they're going to send this club into the lower leagues.
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Post by sportsman on Aug 31, 2019 18:13:36 GMT
So the conversation led to him being on the radar for a while. Bit different to he picked him 🤣
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Post by dave1 on Aug 31, 2019 18:15:47 GMT
Jones will be going early next week to deflect blame yet again but surely Juniors position at the club must also be in question, surely. Who keeps employing these idiots and whatever “the plan” and “no lessons learnt” is an absolutely piss take of the highest order. This club is poison I have it on good authority that Steve Freeth told Coates that Jones was the manager we needed to appoint. West Brom twat stitched us right up. I've read some shite on this board but this takes it to a new level. What a load of rubbish.
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Post by bagnallboothen on Aug 31, 2019 18:20:48 GMT
Good Lord. I don't think I've ever heard him speak before, I now fully understand the mess we're in. That's the bloke that's running the football club? One thing him and Jones have in common, being asked a quite simple question and answering with chapter and verse, digging a hole that deep in the process you can't get out of it.
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Post by numpty40 on Aug 31, 2019 18:20:57 GMT
The worrying thing is these applicants for the Stoke job seem to be able to bullshit the interviewers with considerable ease.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2019 18:23:19 GMT
I have it on good authority that Steve Freeth told Coates that Jones was the manager we needed to appoint. West Brom twat stitched us right up. I've read some shite on this board but this takes it to a new level. What a load of rubbish. Bet you it's not
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Post by thisfootballclub on Aug 31, 2019 18:23:36 GMT
Good Lord. I don't think I've ever heard him speak before, I now fully understand the mess we're in. That's the bloke that's running the football club? One thing him and Jones have on common, being asked a quite simple question and answering with chapter and verse, digging a hole that deep in the process you can't get out of it. Watch Scholes's body language, it's cringe worthy stuff. Scholes probably plays John like a fiddle which may explain his longevity.
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Post by supacoopa101 on Aug 31, 2019 18:24:35 GMT
Interesting reading, even if it is bollocks.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2019 18:25:35 GMT
*Cringe* Scholes looks embarrassed. I have now given up all hope of Stoke getting out of this mess. That guy is a complete and utter idiot!
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Post by sportsman on Aug 31, 2019 18:25:57 GMT
I've read some shite on this board but this takes it to a new level. What a load of rubbish. Bet you it's not We've just seen the clip. He was on the radar for a while after he was recommended. But different to being picked 😁
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2019 18:30:02 GMT
At the end of the day, whilst both Rowett and Jones have been dreadful, they were just trying to do what the fans wanted in appointing a young manager.
The problem seems to me that they have failed to realise the mess we were in and as such don’t seem to realised that they both could do the specific job they were being asked to do. For example, why give Rowett who had never had £50m to spend or being promoted and ask him to go out and buy a team to get you promoted? With Jones, a manager for a very specific system, yet we had to rely on only the manager to pick players and he had no knowledge of this league. It was odd when we had an oversized squad to go for someone we didn’t have the players for when there was not evidence that manager could adapt.
Perhaps it has taken this for them to really realise what the fuss was all about. That the issues are with the managers and also the recruitment.
This could be wishful thinking but they can’t now ignore that massive changes need to be made at the club. They can’t just throw money at the problem now so they need to sort it out properly..
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Post by questionable on Aug 31, 2019 20:00:40 GMT
No doubt the Coates family will be hastily ringing Lambert tonight asking him to take the reigns until the end of the season....
If you want to point fingers beyond Jones look no further than whoever even contemplated contacting Lambert
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2019 20:17:18 GMT
I don't think the appointments of Rowett and Jones were horrendous at all, hindsight is a wonderful things. It's the total lack of a coherent vision for the club that's the issue, spending money on players that don't fit the system. We need a proper, experienced Director of Football type to hold all that together so that whoever the manager everyone knows the vision and philosophy of the club. If that's John Beck hoofing the ball long so be it, as long as everyone's singing from the same hymn sheet..... Surely it is the manager’s job to have a coherent vision for the club. And surely it is the manager’s job to have such a forceful presence to ensure this vision is carried out. Wasn’t that how Shankly, Clough, Waddo, SAF, Revie, TP, Stein, etc operates? Of course the manager has to have a vision, but if you want to move forward it has to be a vision shared by the everyone. That way if he gets hit by a bus/moves on to bigger things/ goes stale he gets replaced with the minimum of disruption......
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Aug 31, 2019 20:17:35 GMT
*Cringe* Scholes looks embarrassed. I have now given up all hope of Stoke getting out of this mess. That guy is a complete and utter idiot! Wow he doesn't come across well does he. This is the guy running the club?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2019 20:19:11 GMT
I have now given up all hope of Stoke getting out of this mess. That guy is a complete and utter idiot! Wow he doesn't come across well does he. This is the guy running the club? It's been pretty obvious for quite some time now that our owners are fucking useless, regardless of how much money they might have.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2019 20:22:09 GMT
I have now given up all hope of Stoke getting out of this mess. That guy is a complete and utter idiot! Wow he doesn't come across well does he. This is the guy running the club? I am always suspicious of people that spend most of their time wiping an imaginary speck of dust off their trousers.
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Post by swampySCFC on Aug 31, 2019 20:22:46 GMT
Jones will be going early next week to deflect blame yet again but surely Juniors position at the club must also be in question, surely. Who keeps employing these idiots and whatever “the plan” and “no lessons learnt” is an absolutely piss take of the highest order. This club is poison Bollocks. The club previously tried your older experienced type manager. They then went for rowett who many on here were calling for and nearly got derby up just before we nabbed him. It didn't work out though. We then went for someone who had played exciting, attacking football, gaining two back to back promotions and out scoring most of europe in the process. It hasn't worked out though. We can moan at this and that, but the two appointments were not wank or stupid at the time. Yes they were. we employed a bloke who waited to see if his current club got promoted before he took the dollar then we employ a lower league manager who cant seem to put his shoes on the right feet. So who is running the club?? Fill the fucking corners in seems a long way off
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Post by roylandstoke on Aug 31, 2019 20:23:41 GMT
That's just embarrassing. Denise must run bet365 on her own.
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Post by chigstoke on Aug 31, 2019 20:25:08 GMT
So far, Jon Coates has shown himself along with Scholes to be a bit of a fucking numpty up to now.
Better start making the right decision and make them quickly.
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Post by questionable on Aug 31, 2019 20:27:51 GMT
Is he hammered or enjoying talking shit, “ I interview, not so much now”, Jon could I suggest not doing it at all and why you’re at it rather than talking with your hands stop talking through your
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Aug 31, 2019 20:28:27 GMT
That's just embarrassing. Denise must run bet365 on her own. Don't get me wrong he's clearly a genuine Stoke fan which I hadn't realised, he just seems a bit naive. Things actually make a lot more sense to me now.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2019 20:29:48 GMT
Is he hammered or enjoying talking shit, “ I interview, not so much now”, Jon could I suggest not doing it at all and why you’re at it rather than talking with your hands stop talking through your Being "hammered" was my first thought .....
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2019 20:31:04 GMT
That's just embarrassing. Denise must run bet365 on her own. It's painful, can you imagine when he is pissed.
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