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Post by terryconroysmagic on Sept 3, 2019 18:25:14 GMT
... and, hopefully, their legal counsel if it comes to that.
I'd give him the option of redemption (he's good enough) but equally, if he threw it back in our face, I'd throw the book and the rest of the library at him without hesitation. Exactly - until January he now has two choices: 1. get paid and train properly and be mentally ready so that he is fit and available for selection; or 2. get most, if not all, of his wages withheld in fines for breach of contract if he refuses to abide by the terms of his deal. 3. Go through the motions half arsed to avoid fines, do as little as possible and if asked to play do a Leeds on it. Was hoping he’d be gone
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Post by jezzascfc on Sept 3, 2019 18:40:28 GMT
Exactly - until January he now has two choices: 1. get paid and train properly and be mentally ready so that he is fit and available for selection; or 2. get most, if not all, of his wages withheld in fines for breach of contract if he refuses to abide by the terms of his deal. 3. Go through the motions half arsed to avoid fines, do as little as possible and if asked to play do a Leeds on it. Was hoping he’d be gone Depending on how obvious he is in doing no.3, it would lead back to no.2 surely, as well as putting off any potential suitors?
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Post by sheriffofrockridge on Sept 3, 2019 19:40:12 GMT
I'd give him the job of picking up litter, cleaning the bogs and polishing the academy players' boots. The absolute cunt.
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Post by fca47 on Sept 3, 2019 19:54:15 GMT
The whole of our midfield is going through the motions, so he can't be any worse.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Sept 3, 2019 20:42:24 GMT
I'd give him the job of picking up litter, cleaning the bogs and polishing the academy players' boots. The absolute cunt. So would I, and then I'd make him play in midfield instead of Joe Allen
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Post by shrewspotter on Sept 3, 2019 20:45:34 GMT
I’d play him in a midfield 3 with Woods and Etebo. Think it’s worth a go
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Post by lordb on Sept 3, 2019 21:28:56 GMT
I’d play him in a midfield 3 with Woods and Etebo. Think it’s worth a go Agreed Five three two is just about the best fit for these players.
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Post by chigstoke on Sept 4, 2019 14:36:58 GMT
I notice Badou is now correctly listed onto the "First Team" page on the Stoke site, pictured in the new kit.
Wonder if he'll be in the squad for Bristol next week? You'd think if Jones wants him, it's bench at a minimum (match fitness aside).
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Post by shakermaker on Sept 4, 2019 14:55:08 GMT
I’d play him in a midfield 3 with Woods and Etebo. Think it’s worth a go I notice Badou is now correctly listed onto the "First Team" page on the Stoke site, pictured in the new kit. Wonder if he'll be in the squad for Bristol next week? You'd think if Jones wants him, it's bench at a minimum (match fitness aside). If he's in the new kit, that must surely mean he's been talked round to getting on with things here. I really hope so, we badly need a switched on Badou. I'd bring him in gently though to gauge his commitment, so I'd start us with a 4-2-3-1 with Etebo partnering Woods, and later in the game sub Etebo for Badou either with the same formation or switching to a defensive 4-3-3.
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Post by wilcopotter on Sept 4, 2019 15:20:34 GMT
He could become a bare necessity for life in the Championship.
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Post by realstokebloke on Sept 4, 2019 15:25:12 GMT
Let's hope he's on board and aware of how important he could be in getting us ticking over again and saving his new gaffer's job (I think the season itself is all but lost now).
Of course, self-interest will play a massive part: if he backs himself, gets his head in gear and plays well, he'll earn his desired move away if he wants one.
Not saying he'll be the answer but he could be a big part of it.
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Post by neilb987 on Sept 4, 2019 15:34:00 GMT
I’d play him in a midfield 3 with Woods and Etebo. Think it’s worth a go IF - and it’s a big IF - Badou is anywhere near fit and shows some commitment to the club, that could well be our strongest midfield three. Though I’d play Duffy as the No.10 behind Gregory and Hogan or Campbell in a 4:3:1:2 line up.
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Post by jezzascfc on Sept 4, 2019 15:56:08 GMT
352 with Badou and Etebo behind Powell in the middle could be just what we need.
How good does this look? Seriously, that is a top six side and one which really should, if allowed to gel, see us charging up the table:
Butland
Collins Carter Vickers Martins Indi
Edwards Badou Powell Etebo Clucas
Gregory Campbell
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Post by lordb on Sept 4, 2019 16:10:08 GMT
I’d play him in a midfield 3 with Woods and Etebo. Think it’s worth a go IF - and it’s a big IF - Badou is anywhere near fit and shows some commitment to the club, that could well be our strongest midfield three. Though I’d play Duffy as the No.10 behind Gregory and Hogan or Campbell in a 4:3:1:2 line up. That's an interesting formation, think I'm right in saying it's what QSF favours. As with diamond it relies on fullbacks to provide the width
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Post by Cast no shadow on Sept 4, 2019 16:10:38 GMT
352 with Badou and Etebo behind Powell in the middle could be just what we need. How good does this look? Seriously, that is a top six side and one which really should, if allowed to gel, see us charging up the table: Butland Collins Carter Vickers Martins Indi Edwards Badou Powell Etebo Clucas Gregory Campbell What's a Powell?
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Post by shakermaker on Sept 4, 2019 16:19:58 GMT
IF - and it’s a big IF - Badou is anywhere near fit and shows some commitment to the club, that could well be our strongest midfield three. Though I’d play Duffy as the No.10 behind Gregory and Hogan or Campbell in a 4:3:1:2 line up. That's an interesting formation, think I'm right in saying it's what QSF favours. As with diamond it relies on fullbacks to provide the width 4-3-1-2 is a variation of the diamond. I would say with Badou on the left and Woods at DM, the diamond midfield at least looks pretty sweet. I would also like to see Vokes paired with Gregory to see how that works. But you're right, it's the fullback positions that look suspect. LB is a massive gap and are Edwards or Tommy capable of bombing up and down for most of 90 mins?
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Post by lordb on Sept 4, 2019 17:13:41 GMT
That's an interesting formation, think I'm right in saying it's what QSF favours. As with diamond it relies on fullbacks to provide the width 4-3-1-2 is a variation of the diamond. I would say with Badou on the left and Woods at the DM, the diamond midfield midfield at least looks pretty sweet. I would also like to see Vokes paired with Gregory to see how that works. But you're right, it's the fullback positions that look suspect. LB is a massive gap and are Edwards or Tommy capable of bombing up and down for most of 90 mins? Edwards definitely can Smith hasn't so far MacLean can run all day but has to be a problem defensively
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Post by hanibal7 on Sept 4, 2019 22:03:04 GMT
Will make a deadline loan to a European club, probably Turkish, with no obligation to buy. I’d love him to give us his all until at least January but that’s not going to happen. It’s a shame really. WRONG
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Post by jezzascfc on Sept 4, 2019 23:07:38 GMT
352 with Badou and Etebo behind Powell in the middle could be just what we need. How good does this look? Seriously, that is a top six side and one which really should, if allowed to gel, see us charging up the table: Butland Collins Carter Vickers Martins Indi Edwards Badou Powell Etebo Clucas Gregory Campbell What's a Powell? It's a peculiar type of human being whose legs have the consistency of a rich tea biscuit after being dunked in a hot brew, apparently.
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Post by Gods on Sept 5, 2019 0:22:17 GMT
352 with Badou and Etebo behind Powell in the middle could be just what we need. How good does this look? Seriously, that is a top six side and one which really should, if allowed to gel, see us charging up the table: Butland Collins Carter Vickers Martins Indi Edwards Badou Powell Etebo Clucas Gregory Campbell There won't be another team in the Championship fielding a pair of strikers who don't have a single solitary goal BETWEEN THEM for their club. Something of Richard Cresswell about Gregory, lots of huffing and puffing but no goals forthcoming and Campbell may or may not make a pro player, who knows. I guess because we wasted 20 million pounds on Vokes and Afobe we are stuck with these two.
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Post by 11wilkosinateam on Sept 5, 2019 4:54:35 GMT
Will make a deadline loan to a European club, probably Turkish, with no obligation to buy. I’d love him to give us his all until at least January but that’s not going to happen. It’s a shame really. WRONG Very Hopefully we see him starting against Bristol
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Post by cousindupree on Sept 5, 2019 6:29:03 GMT
352 with Badou and Etebo behind Powell in the middle could be just what we need. How good does this look? Seriously, that is a top six side and one which really should, if allowed to gel, see us charging up the table: Butland Collins Carter Vickers Martins Indi Edwards Badou Powell Etebo Clucas Gregory Campbell Hardly any goals in that team, Gregory is 10 max a season and Campbell who knows but we need a 15+ player in their somewhere and we don't have one. Most of the creativity has to come from Powell and who knows how many games he will play. Etebo and Badou are not creative. In fact Etebo in his Stoke career so far has 2 goals and 2 assists in 38 games! Sadly the team is light years from top 6
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Post by pistol on Sept 5, 2019 6:34:21 GMT
352 with Badou and Etebo behind Powell in the middle could be just what we need. How good does this look? Seriously, that is a top six side and one which really should, if allowed to gel, see us charging up the table: Butland Collins Carter Vickers Martins Indi Edwards Badou Powell Etebo Clucas Gregory Campbell Hardly any goals in that team, Gregory is 10 max a season and Campbell who knows but we need a 15+ player in their somewhere and we don't have one. Most of the creativity has to come from Powell and who knows how many games he will play. Etebo and Badou are not creative. In fact Etebo in his Stoke career so far has 2 goals and 2 assists in 38 games! Sadly the team is light years from top 6 Those sort of stats make Etebo positively Messi-like in this line up
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Post by chiswickpotter on Sept 5, 2019 8:11:59 GMT
352 with Badou and Etebo behind Powell in the middle could be just what we need. How good does this look? Seriously, that is a top six side and one which really should, if allowed to gel, see us charging up the table: Butland Collins Carter Vickers Martins Indi Edwards Badou Powell Etebo Clucas Gregory Campbell Hardly any goals in that team, Gregory is 10 max a season and Campbell who knows but we need a 15+ player in their somewhere and we don't have one. Most of the creativity has to come from Powell and who knows how many games he will play. Etebo and Badou are not creative. In fact Etebo in his Stoke career so far has 2 goals and 2 assists in 38 games! Sadly the team is light years from top 6 Hogan and Vokes have more potential as a front two and Clucas is worse defensively than McClean, he has no anticipation as shown at charlton and on Saturday. But that shape with Badou and Etebo is the way forward with our squad. It’s definitely too 6 as this is a low quality division
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Post by jwhpotter on Sept 9, 2019 15:25:43 GMT
“God willing we’ll have him available” has been stated by Jones in the last few press conferences. So which camp are you in?
Do we bring him back as an undoubted talent in midfield. We are pretty desperate
OR
Fxxk him! He didn’t want to play for us last season so why should he be in the team now?! Maybe he still doesn’t want to play for us
Personally I’d start him against BC, it’s not about keeping players happy atm, we need a win!
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Post by jimmygscfc on Sept 9, 2019 16:01:33 GMT
How motivated will he be, really? And what effect will it have on the rest of the squad/team? I think it might be a last throw of the dice from Jones if he did bring him back.
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Post by rawli on Sept 9, 2019 16:59:28 GMT
I wish god would show himself and help out the manager who is one of his biggest fans. I know he moves in mysterious ways but the way he's acting at the moment must be pushing NJ's faith to the limit.
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Post by gingerninja on Sept 9, 2019 17:21:44 GMT
Has it actually been confirmed he's training or has trained?. Has he been sighted at any matches since he is supposed to have returned. I am very sceptical.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2019 17:22:26 GMT
“God willing we’ll have him available” has been stated by Jones in the last few press conferences. So which camp are you in? Do we bring him back as an undoubted talent in midfield. We are pretty desperate OR Fxxk him! He didn’t want to play for us last season so why should he be in the team now?! Maybe he still doesn’t want to play for us Personally I’d start him against BC, it’s not about keeping players happy atm, we need a win! I don't see how you can after you've signed 11 players. I don't remember him being that amazing when we were in the Prem although granted he's one of our better players. It's all just a complete mess.
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Post by shrewspotter on Sept 9, 2019 17:34:20 GMT
“God willing we’ll have him available” has been stated by Jones in the last few press conferences. So which camp are you in? Do we bring him back as an undoubted talent in midfield. We are pretty desperate OR Fxxk him! He didn’t want to play for us last season so why should he be in the team now?! Maybe he still doesn’t want to play for us Personally I’d start him against BC, it’s not about keeping players happy atm, we need a win! I don't see how you can after you've signed 11 players. I don't remember him being that amazing when we were in the Prem although granted he's one of our better players. It's all just a complete mess. i think we need 11 guys all prepared to run through brick walls for you. Unfortunately Badou isn’t one of them. I suppose I’d rather have players that want to be there than players looking for the players exit. That said our midfield has been woeful again this season so I’d be tempted to play him as it’s getting to the point for Jones where it’s do or die
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