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Post by wilcopotter on Sept 15, 2019 22:16:38 GMT
Cousin's was written off by some before he started. The games I've seen him play he's looked quite tidy - nothing special but decent enough in a role that rarely catches the eye anyway. Compare his treatment with that of the fans favourites - like Butland and Edwards who've had some stinkers - the only conclusion you can draw is that some posters have written their posts before the season started rather than base it on what's actually happened on the pitch. This is exactly the problem. "He's looked quite tidy" - what does he do? He was brought in to play at the base of a diamond where basic duties include: Starting attacks. Receiving the ball from the keeper/centre backs. Screening the back 4. Ensuring the opposition No. 10 is under pressure. Now Jordan seems a nice lad but being neat and tidy just doesnt cut it. He's not going to be good enough and will be another we desperately struggle to offload. I dont want him to fail, I would love him to succeed but a blind man can see that he's not what's needed. Luckily and I really mean luckily N'Diaye looks like he wants to play so it wont be a discussion moving forward anyway, at least until January. Not that convinces by Badou, played well, but all this clapping and trying to get the fans going is insincerely sincere. He knows his only chance of getting out is by showing some form.
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Post by BuzzB on Sept 15, 2019 22:21:13 GMT
This is exactly the problem. "He's looked quite tidy" - what does he do? He was brought in to play at the base of a diamond where basic duties include: Starting attacks. Receiving the ball from the keeper/centre backs. Screening the back 4. Ensuring the opposition No. 10 is under pressure. Now Jordan seems a nice lad but being neat and tidy just doesnt cut it. He's not going to be good enough and will be another we desperately struggle to offload. I dont want him to fail, I would love him to succeed but a blind man can see that he's not what's needed. Luckily and I really mean luckily N'Diaye looks like he wants to play so it wont be a discussion moving forward anyway, at least until January. Not that convinces by Badou, played well, but all this clapping and trying to get the fans going is insincerely sincere. He knows his only chance of getting out is by showing some form. He was probably trying to rebuild a few bridges, he will know full well he has upsetfans and people at the club. He was the only one to console Allen too. Has his work cut out to get some fans back onside and I can understand that. Top player we need badly.
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Post by mcw on Sept 16, 2019 9:48:41 GMT
Not that convinces by Badou, played well, but all this clapping and trying to get the fans going is insincerely sincere. He knows his only chance of getting out is by showing some form. He was probably trying to rebuild a few bridges, he will know full well he has upsetfans and people at the club. He was the only one to console Allen too. Has his work cut out to get some fans back onside and I can understand that. Top player we need badly. Well his agent couldn't get him off the sinking ship, so he has to muck in now and christ he was a revelation! Night and day between him and Cousins, but that being said he is a much better player and not one who is content to do the Didier Deschamps water carrier role that Cousins has been designated. He was driving that midfield forward all afternoon. A trio of him, Clucas and Etebo is an exciting prospect but the only question mark is whether he will be content to sit and protect the back 4 or 5.
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Sept 16, 2019 16:43:36 GMT
This is exactly the problem. "He's looked quite tidy" - what does he do? He was brought in to play at the base of a diamond where basic duties include: Starting attacks. Receiving the ball from the keeper/centre backs. Screening the back 4. Ensuring the opposition No. 10 is under pressure. Now Jordan seems a nice lad but being neat and tidy just doesnt cut it. He's not going to be good enough and will be another we desperately struggle to offload. I dont want him to fail, I would love him to succeed but a blind man can see that he's not what's needed. Luckily and I really mean luckily N'Diaye looks like he wants to play so it wont be a discussion moving forward anyway, at least until January. Not that convinces by Badou, played well, but all this clapping and trying to get the fans going is insincerely sincere. He knows his only chance of getting out is by showing some form. Oh I'm with you completely. The bullshit oatcakes for breakfast or whatever it was instagram post riled me like you wouldnt believe. But if he wants to play his knackers off for a move in January then let him crack on.
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Post by rawli on Sept 16, 2019 17:13:15 GMT
Better option for what? He'll run forward all day but he'll never deliver a dangerous cross, let alone one that reaches a team mate. He'll run back but will be no use defensively because of non existant defensive skills, as displayed many times including yesterday. We were worse for his departure yesterday for all his faults. Why is Gregory a better option? By that time he'd allowed 2 easy crosses into our far post.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 16, 2019 18:11:35 GMT
We were worse for his departure yesterday for all his faults. Why is Gregory a better option? By that time he'd allowed 2 easy crosses into our far post. He's crap defensively, no question. That's a separate issue. For as bang average, six out of ten at best as McClean is, we barelyhad a sniff at goal after he went off.
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Post by lordb on Sept 16, 2019 19:43:19 GMT
We were worse for his departure yesterday for all his faults. Why is Gregory a better option? By that time he'd allowed 2 easy crosses into our far post. MacLean? At that point we were plat 441 with Bruno at left back Not really anything to do with him. To be fair to Bruno both crosses should have been dealt with easily by the other defenders
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Post by supersimonstainrod on Sept 16, 2019 21:23:08 GMT
By that time he'd allowed 2 easy crosses into our far post. He's crap defensively, no question. That's a separate issue. For as bang average, six out of ten at best as McClean is, we barelyhad a sniff at goal after he went off. Thought virtually all of the attacking threat we offered came from the left on Saturday. Ince's efforts are slowly adding an extra layer of meaning to the word ephemeral!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2019 21:28:53 GMT
He's crap defensively, no question. That's a separate issue. For as bang average, six out of ten at best as McClean is, we barelyhad a sniff at goal after he went off. Thought virtually all of the attacking threat we offered came from the left on Saturday. Ince's efforts are slowly adding an extra layer of meaning to the word ephemeral! It did. And both Gregory and Campbell kept getting dragged out to the right as a result. We saw it happen countless times with Afobe last season as well. A striker ends up practically being a winger. It's bizarre.
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Post by rawli on Sept 16, 2019 21:38:25 GMT
By that time he'd allowed 2 easy crosses into our far post. MacLean? At that point we were plat 441 with Bruno at left back Not really anything to do with him. To be fair to Bruno both crosses should have been dealt with easily by the other defenders Were we? I can't keep up. All I saw was their player waltz round him twice and him being subbed moments later.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2019 21:40:13 GMT
MacLean? At that point we were plat 441 with Bruno at left back Not really anything to do with him. To be fair to Bruno both crosses should have been dealt with easily by the other defenders Were we? I can't keep up. All I saw was their player waltz round him twice and him being subbed moments later. In the warm up McClean was doing striking practice and Edwards was with the defenders. I did wonder where he was supposed to be because that made no sense to me whatsoever! Fuck knows what was supposed to be going on.
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Post by lordb on Sept 16, 2019 21:40:24 GMT
MacLean? At that point we were plat 441 with Bruno at left back Not really anything to do with him. To be fair to Bruno both crosses should have been dealt with easily by the other defenders Were we? I can't keep up. All I saw was their player waltz round him twice and him being subbed moments later. Yes we switched it after the red card MacLean and Gregory ran themselves into the ground.
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Post by rawli on Sept 16, 2019 21:51:03 GMT
Were we? I can't keep up. All I saw was their player waltz round him twice and him being subbed moments later. Yes we switched it after the red card MacLean and Gregory ran themselves into the ground. Just watched the highlights. 2 absolutely woeful attempts to stop the crosses. Zero pressure on the man both times.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2019 21:53:55 GMT
Yes we switched it after the red card MacLean and Gregory ran themselves into the ground. Just watched the highlights. 2 absolutely woeful attempts to stop the crosses. Zero pressure on the man both times. I don't know what Bruno is meant to be doing either tbh. But people do make crosses into the box. Your CBs aren't just supposed to shrink. I'm more concerned regarding the fact that we can't head away a cross and Butland doesn't come for floaty crosses...
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Post by adi on Sept 16, 2019 22:09:59 GMT
Yes we switched it after the red card MacLean and Gregory ran themselves into the ground. Just watched the highlights. 2 absolutely woeful attempts to stop the crosses. Zero pressure on the man both times. Well Tom Edwards that was fucking woeful on both counts.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2019 22:32:34 GMT
Just watched the highlights. 2 absolutely woeful attempts to stop the crosses. Zero pressure on the man both times. Well Tom Edwards that was fucking woeful on both counts. All the defenders are dreadful. Why is Bruno randomly shadowing McClean for no reason, why has Lindsay not got his back to goal, why does CCV randomly shrink? We miss Ryan Shawcross’ head. God knows what defensive training they are doing but they need to do some more. It’s awful across the board. It’s not just one individual error. If that was the game plan for Bristol I don’t know why Batth and collins weren’t playing. Bigger stronger and all better with their their heads.
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Post by mattythestokie on Oct 5, 2019 16:04:22 GMT
My God this guy is simply sublime.
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Post by supacoopa101 on Oct 5, 2019 16:05:21 GMT
Badou is majestic.
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Post by doctortheopolis on Oct 5, 2019 16:08:17 GMT
Absolutely beasted the midfield. If this guy wants to be, he is one of the best midfielders in the division. I’ve felt sorry for him and Etebo in the last couple of games because they’ve worked their bollocks off to win the ball back and make things happen but no other fucker around them has been interested. Today was totally different!!!
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 5, 2019 16:08:33 GMT
What a performance, MOTM.
Looked like a real leader out there too!
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Post by shrewspotter on Oct 5, 2019 16:09:13 GMT
What a performance, MOTM. Looked like a real leader out there too! he was a different class paul
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2019 16:10:51 GMT
I don't know why anyone is surprised at his ability,we saw it in the premier League. He's playing so well someone is bound to come in for him in January unfortunately
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Post by xchpotter on Oct 5, 2019 16:10:52 GMT
I don't care what his motivations are... this bloke is a top player in this league. If he is playing for a move, so be it... that's what footballers do. If his drive and bollocks inspires some of the other wet lettuces then great and enjoy him while we can.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2019 16:10:54 GMT
Absolutely beasted the midfield. If this guy wants to be, he is one of the best midfielders in the division. I’ve felt sorry for him and Etebo in the last couple of games because they’ve worked their bollocks off to win the ball back and make things happen but no other fucker around them has been interested. Today was totally different!!! To be fair mate he is good enough to be playing premiership football week in week out. The bloke is in a different league to any midfielder in this league
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Post by stokesaint1 on Oct 5, 2019 16:11:32 GMT
Absolutely excellent. Superb commitment and really showed it when we scored the winner. A real leader. Give him the armband.
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Post by theoptimist on Oct 5, 2019 16:12:01 GMT
Far too good for League One
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Post by doctortheopolis on Oct 5, 2019 16:18:53 GMT
Absolutely beasted the midfield. If this guy wants to be, he is one of the best midfielders in the division. I’ve felt sorry for him and Etebo in the last couple of games because they’ve worked their bollocks off to win the ball back and make things happen but no other fucker around them has been interested. Today was totally different!!! To be fair mate he is good enough to be playing premiership football week in week out. The bloke is in a different league to any midfielder in this league Totally agree mate!!!
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Post by cobhamstokey on Oct 5, 2019 18:03:56 GMT
He might not want to be at the club but massive respect for his attitude. He’s a class act and gone massively up in my estimation. You could see how happy he was at the end. He’s a PL player and well worth in excess of 20m. He’d be wasted in Turkey.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Oct 5, 2019 18:05:47 GMT
He's proven me wrong completely, didn't think he was capable of playing half as well as he has done since coming back in the side, fair play to him 👍
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Post by kevkj on Oct 5, 2019 18:26:41 GMT
Absolutely superb again today.
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