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Post by Dutchpeter on Aug 25, 2019 6:40:45 GMT
He’s no Liam Lindsay..... Jesus wept he was useless today. At least Carter-Vickers has the excuse of no pre season behind him. Lindsay was appalling. Jones’ signing are fucking atrocious. Liam Lindsay reminds me of Steven Tweed ☹️
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 25, 2019 6:41:36 GMT
God knows. What I do know is that with who we signed, there’s not one I’d want in the side compared with the squad we finished last season with. Lee Gregory? Afobe is better.
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Post by wherty on Aug 25, 2019 7:23:48 GMT
Funny how people are slating Jones for getting rid of Pieter's yet when he played this whole board said Pieters was shit.....
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 25, 2019 7:25:25 GMT
Funny how people are slating Jones for getting rid of Pieter's yet when he played this whole board said Pieters was shit..... Hhhmmn there’s a lot of people that still rated Pieters. Not enough but there still was.
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Post by redwhite on Aug 25, 2019 7:28:00 GMT
Funny how people are slating Jones for getting rid of Pieter's yet when he played this whole board said Pieters was shit..... Pieters wasn’t great but getting rid of our only recognised left back was a ridiculous decision. We’ve now replaced him with worse.
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Post by roylandstoke on Aug 25, 2019 7:30:25 GMT
Funny how people are slating Jones for getting rid of Pieter's yet when he played this whole board said Pieters was shit..... I didn't. Nor did a lot of others.
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Post by Gods on Aug 25, 2019 8:10:25 GMT
Wimmer would be way better than Lindsay. Yes he would, it's not even a point for debate.
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Post by mattythestokie on Aug 25, 2019 8:14:52 GMT
He’s no Liam Lindsay..... Jesus wept he was useless today. At least Carter-Vickers has the excuse of no pre season behind him. Lindsay was appalling. Jones’ signing are fucking atrocious. He loves to just aimlessly fucking hoof the ball and give the ball way.
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Post by Gods on Aug 25, 2019 8:15:25 GMT
Funny how people are slating Jones for getting rid of Pieter's yet when he played this whole board said Pieters was shit..... Mountains of support for Erik on here Erik Pieters
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2019 8:18:28 GMT
Funny how people are slating Jones for getting rid of Pieter's yet when he played this whole board said Pieters was shit..... Mountains of support for Erik on here Erik PietersPeople forget don’t they. We are all guilty of having a whinge on here but I’d be surprised if you told anyone “were going to get rid of Erik Pieters without a better replacement” they wouldn’t have had you sectioned immediately. A good servant to the club swept up in the whole “bad apple” relegation squad jibber jabber when he never deserved it. I’ve not forgotten he was one of the first to come out after relegation saying he was staying and wanted to make it right.
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Post by kjpt140v on Aug 25, 2019 8:20:36 GMT
Wimmer would be way better than Lindsay. Yes he would, it's not even a point for debate. You can't say that
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Post by scfcno1fan on Aug 25, 2019 8:25:21 GMT
He’s no Liam Lindsay..... Jesus wept he was useless today. At least Carter-Vickers has the excuse of no pre season behind him. Lindsay was appalling. Jones’ signing are fucking atrocious. Lindsay just looks dreadful doesn’t he? Not just defensively but his forward passing as well. The amount of times Leeds left him with the ball to come out and he passed it over the halfway line straight back to them was frightening. Missing Shawcross is making a massive difference right now.
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 25, 2019 8:26:54 GMT
Funny how people are slating Jones for getting rid of Pieter's yet when he played this whole board said Pieters was shit..... .....but then we hoped he would bring in a young wing back and not a 34 year old slow one! If we all knew he wouldn't replace him I guess we wouldn't have wanted him to go. I also thought Ward was good enough for the Championship, but after watching him at Charlton I realised how slow he is. To be a decent fullback you need decent pace and this is also why I prefer Smith to Edwards.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 25, 2019 8:29:36 GMT
Funny how people are slating Jones for getting rid of Pieter's yet when he played this whole board said Pieters was shit..... As a near lone voice in defending pieters for years I have to admit to being surprised by how many people actually liked him on this forum. I seemingly wasn't alone afterall.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2019 8:31:38 GMT
Funny how people are slating Jones for getting rid of Pieter's yet when he played this whole board said Pieters was shit..... .....but then we hoped he would bring in a young wing back and not a 34 year old slow one! If we all knew he wouldn't replace him I guess we wouldn't have wanted him to go. I also thought Ward was good enough for the Championship, but after watching him at Charlton I realised how slow he is. To be a decent fullback you need decent pace and this is also why I prefer Smith to Edwards. Odd considering Edwards is quicker than Smith.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Aug 25, 2019 8:34:22 GMT
Funny how people are slating Jones for getting rid of Pieter's yet when he played this whole board said Pieters was shit..... As a near lone voice in defending pieters for years I have to admit to being surprised by how many people actually liked him on this forum. I seemingly wasn't alone afterall. Yes the love for Pieters is surprising. The. Again he was our best defender last season and is now playing in the Premier League
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Post by franklin66 on Aug 25, 2019 8:34:25 GMT
.....but then we hoped he would bring in a young wing back and not a 34 year old slow one! If we all knew he wouldn't replace him I guess we wouldn't have wanted him to go. I also thought Ward was good enough for the Championship, but after watching him at Charlton I realised how slow he is. To be a decent fullback you need decent pace and this is also why I prefer Smith to Edwards. Odd considering Edwards is quicker than Smith. Not sure about that mate but if he is he's was sleeping twice so no amount of physical pace can make up positional placement and marking.
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 25, 2019 8:34:55 GMT
.....but then we hoped he would bring in a young wing back and not a 34 year old slow one! If we all knew he wouldn't replace him I guess we wouldn't have wanted him to go. I also thought Ward was good enough for the Championship, but after watching him at Charlton I realised how slow he is. To be a decent fullback you need decent pace and this is also why I prefer Smith to Edwards. Odd considering Edwards is quicker than Smith. I hear people claim this, but I don't believe it. If true we all know where Edwards is slow, don't we?
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Post by sheds1862 on Aug 25, 2019 8:35:18 GMT
He’s no Liam Lindsay..... Jesus wept he was useless today. At least Carter-Vickers has the excuse of no pre season behind him. Lindsay was appalling. Jones’ signing are fucking atrocious. Liam Lindsay reminds me of Steven Tweed ☹️ I guess you didn't say John Clark
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 25, 2019 8:35:23 GMT
As a near lone voice in defending pieters for years I have to admit to being surprised by how many people actually liked him on this forum. I seemingly wasn't alone afterall. Yes the love for Pieters is surprising. The. Again he was our best defender last season and is now playing in the Premier League Pity they weren't jumping to his defence previously eh?
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Post by Roger Everyone on Aug 25, 2019 8:40:22 GMT
At the end of the day the manager should know his best players and they should be playing. Yes you might chop and change the odd one here and there. I do wonder if NJ even knows who are his best players with some if his selections. He seems to be desperately trying anyone to make something happen. Most of the new players don't look like an upgrade on what we had last season in all honesty..
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Post by boweryboy on Aug 25, 2019 11:57:21 GMT
Trouble is Pieters was a basic defencive fullback for a back four who Jones thought rightly or wrongly that he was not the right type of player for his proposed system... don't let your red and white spec's try to glamourise how good he was and how much we miss him...how many times did you see him bungle into the back of a winger,for no other reason but to give away an unessisary free kick resulting in a goal,and costing us vital points .selective memories of what !!!
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Post by iglugluk on Aug 25, 2019 12:01:27 GMT
Unfortunately Saturday is wimmers day off, he likes to keep Saturday afternoons free to cheer on spurs They’re playing Sunday It's a bit of a distance and travelling is hard work.. I imagine he decided to set off on Friday
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 25, 2019 12:50:53 GMT
Trouble is Pieters was a basic defencive fullback for a back four who Jones thought rightly or wrongly that he was not the right type of player for his proposed system... don't let your red and white spec's try to glamourise how good he was and how much we miss him...how many times did you see him bungle into the back of a winger,for no other reason but to give away an unessisary free kick resulting in a goal,and costing us vital points .selective memories of what !!! Oh to have a PL quality left back.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2019 12:55:55 GMT
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Post by pushon on Aug 25, 2019 13:01:51 GMT
.....but then we hoped he would bring in a young wing back and not a 34 year old slow one! If we all knew he wouldn't replace him I guess we wouldn't have wanted him to go. I also thought Ward was good enough for the Championship, but after watching him at Charlton I realised how slow he is. To be a decent fullback you need decent pace and this is also why I prefer Smith to Edwards. Odd considering Edwards is quicker than Smith. Only if Smiths legs are tied together.
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Post by neilb987 on Aug 25, 2019 13:06:13 GMT
He’s no Liam Lindsay..... Jesus wept he was useless today. At least Carter-Vickers has the excuse of no pre season behind him. Lindsay was appalling. Jones’ signing are fucking atrocious. Liam Lindsay reminds me of Steven Tweed ☹️ Oh gawd! I remember Steven Tweed ... He had one brilliant game early in the season - a rare win away at Boro’ I think, then got steadily worse until by the end of the season was absolutely crap ...!
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 27, 2019 17:43:31 GMT
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 27, 2019 17:46:15 GMT
Stoke City: Butland; Smith, Carter-Vickers, Batth ©, Martins Indi, Ward; Woods, Clucas, Ince; Vokes, Campbell.
Subs: Davies, Etebo, Hogan, Verlinden, Cousins, Duffy, Collins.
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Post by serpico on Aug 27, 2019 17:46:30 GMT
Good news. He may not be the saviour but he should have been brought back in immediately after Shawcross got injured.
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