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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 21, 2019 21:24:54 GMT
So a mythical new manager is going to come in and make the things that have failed now under the last four managers work suddenly is he? He's going to get a tune out of Imbula despite the fact that he's failed at four different clubs in three years under five different managers? He's going to get Bauer to be able to defend when nobody else has? Behave. No harm in trying. So you mean to say that Lindsay is a better player than Bruno Martins Indi? And why is Etebo not starting? And what about Ndiaye ? I'm not saying a new manager will wave a magic wand but an experienced manager like Hughton can certainly get much more out of the most expensively-assembled squad in the championship. Its like opening a gourmet restaurant which buys the finest ingredients and then you get the lad from the fish and chips shop as head chef !!! Bruno hasn't done anything to scream 'pick me' for a good two years has he? The idea that nobody can come from a lower league and do any kind of decent job is acute snobbery of the kind you'd expect Stoke fans to be above.
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Post by march4 on Aug 21, 2019 21:27:09 GMT
If we manage to convince him, Chris Hughton. Jones has shown that he is unable to make good use of the expensively assembled squad we have. So we gave him the opportunity to get in the players he wanted, most of them small timers from the lower divisions in order to play his famous diamond whuch clearly doesn't work. I'm convinced that under a proper manager even players who have been completely sidelined like bauer, indi and imbula will be able to perform. Jones is certainly not the solution to Stoke's woes So a mythical new manager is going to come in and make the things that have failed now under the last four managers work suddenly is he? He's going to get a tune out of Imbula despite the fact that he's failed at four different clubs in three years under five different managers? He's going to get Bauer to be able to defend when nobody else has? Behave. TP would do it with his eyes closed. I think Hughton would also do it. However, I feel John Terry would have enough clout from day 1 to demand respect from the players.
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Post by malteser68 on Aug 21, 2019 21:33:02 GMT
No harm in trying. So you mean to say that Lindsay is a better player than Bruno Martins Indi? And why is Etebo not starting? And what about Ndiaye ? I'm not saying a new manager will wave a magic wand but an experienced manager like Hughton can certainly get much more out of the most expensively-assembled squad in the championship. Its like opening a gourmet restaurant which buys the finest ingredients and then you get the lad from the fish and chips shop as head chef !!! Bruno hasn't done anything to scream 'pick me' for a good two years has he? The idea that nobody can come from a lower league and do any kind of decent job is acute snobbery of the kind you'd expect Stoke fans to be above. It's not snobbery. We tried it. Didn't work. 3 wins in 22 games is completely unacceptable. He will get us relegated. We need someone with the necessary experience. He is clearly out of his depth. Other teams repeatedly slice through our midfield like a hot knife through butter. And yet he persists with the same tactics which means that he us either arrogant or stupid
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Post by strangerthingshappen on Aug 21, 2019 21:34:37 GMT
Get Jim Carver in. Or James O'connor Might aswell have des o'conner than this clown.....
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Post by SneydGreenStokie on Aug 21, 2019 21:37:09 GMT
1. Hang tough with Nath and hope, god willing, results improve. 2. The 3rd coming of Tony Pulis, at least he is a sensible grown up. 3. Try to poach Chis Hougton from under the noses of Huddersfield Town. Any others...? To even suggest it is ridiculous. This will take time. SGS
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Post by silsdenstokie on Aug 21, 2019 21:38:42 GMT
We can't keep changing managers but boy, we can't carry on like this.
There's got to be enough talent in that squad for someone to get a tune out of them.
Leeds on sat a must win for Jones now
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Post by Scrotnig on Aug 21, 2019 21:39:23 GMT
1. Hang tough with Nath and hope, god willing, results improve. 2. The 3rd coming of Tony Pulis, at least he is a sensible grown up. 3. Try to poach Chis Hougton from under the noses of Huddersfield Town. Any others...? To even suggest it is ridiculous. This will take time. SGS Time we do not have. We are *already* bottom of the league and *already* starting to get cut adrift. To achieve that so soon is unprecedented, even in the Holocaust season it took a little while before we got rooted to the bottom.
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Post by likelyladgalizmo on Aug 21, 2019 21:39:53 GMT
John Sitton give him a call.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 21, 2019 21:43:47 GMT
Bruno hasn't done anything to scream 'pick me' for a good two years has he? The idea that nobody can come from a lower league and do any kind of decent job is acute snobbery of the kind you'd expect Stoke fans to be above. It's not snobbery. We tried it. Didn't work. 3 wins in 22 games is completely unacceptable. He will get us relegated. We need someone with the necessary experience. He is clearly out of his depth. Other teams repeatedly slice through our midfield like a hot knife through butter. And yet he persists with the same tactics which means that he us either arrogant or stupid We haven't lost today because 'other teams slice repeatedly through our midfield like a knife through butter', and we've actually faced relatively few shots on goal all season. We may well look exposed but it's not the reason we're conceding goals.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 21, 2019 21:51:01 GMT
They'll rebound to a stodgy, safe pair of hands if they make the change soon. Jokanovic is earning fortunes in the Gulf, and he wasn't interested when we weer a much more attractive proposition. Now, we're a complete mess. Stendel? Too shiny and new Cowley would make some sense, but they'll go for something the opposite of Jones. m.skybet.com/football/manager-specials/event/24473230Huddersfield odds Would Moyes come? No Would Hughton come? Maybe. Lee Bowyer? Garry Monk? I could actually see that one.
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Post by strangerthingshappen on Aug 21, 2019 21:52:36 GMT
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Post by chuckrocky on Aug 21, 2019 21:52:39 GMT
They'll rebound to a stodgy, safe pair of hands if they make the change soon. Jokanovic is earning fortunes in the Gulf, and he wasn't intersetd when we weer a much more attractive proposition. Now, we're a complete mess. Stendel? Too shiny and new Cowley would make some sense, but they'll go for something the opposite of Jones. m.skybet.com/football/manager-specials/event/24473230Huddersfield odds Would Moyes come? No Would Hughton come? Maybe. Lee Bowyer? Garry Monk? I could actually see that one. Rumour has it Coates Snr has Martin O’Neil on speed dial.
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Post by Veritas on Aug 21, 2019 21:53:28 GMT
1. Hang tough with Nath and hope, god willing, results improve. 2. The 3rd coming of Tony Pulis, tempting, at least he is a sensible grown up. 3. Try to poach Chis Hougton from under the noses of Huddersfield Town. Any others...? I think bringing Pulis in as assistant to sort the defence out would be a decent call No it wouldn't be
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2019 21:53:54 GMT
They'll rebound to a stodgy, safe pair of hands if they make the change soon. Jokanovic is earning fortunes in the Gulf, and he wasn't interested when we weer a much more attractive proposition. Now, we're a complete mess. Stendel? Too shiny and new Cowley would make some sense, but they'll go for something the opposite of Jones. m.skybet.com/football/manager-specials/event/24473230Huddersfield odds Would Moyes come? No Would Hughton come? Maybe. Lee Bowyer? Garry Monk? I could actually see that one. Gary Monk. The Nathan Jones/Tony Pulis compromise. I could actually see it happening if NJ was to depart.....
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Post by pulismaskreplica on Aug 21, 2019 21:54:31 GMT
They'll rebound to a stodgy, safe pair of hands if they make the change soon. Jokanovic is earning fortunes in the Gulf, and he wasn't interested when we weer a much more attractive proposition. Now, we're a complete mess. Stendel? Too shiny and new Cowley would make some sense, but they'll go for something the opposite of Jones. m.skybet.com/football/manager-specials/event/24473230Huddersfield odds Would Moyes come? No Would Hughton come? Maybe. Lee Bowyer? Garry Monk? I could actually see that one. Enter Pardew
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Post by silsdenstokie on Aug 21, 2019 21:54:54 GMT
Phil Parkinson just left Bolton. Would be cheap and would probably keep us up
Would be just like Pulisball all over again
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 21, 2019 21:55:16 GMT
They'll rebound to a stodgy, safe pair of hands if they make the change soon. Jokanovic is earning fortunes in the Gulf, and he wasn't intersetd when we weer a much more attractive proposition. Now, we're a complete mess. Stendel? Too shiny and new Cowley would make some sense, but they'll go for something the opposite of Jones. m.skybet.com/football/manager-specials/event/24473230Huddersfield odds Would Moyes come? No Would Hughton come? Maybe. Lee Bowyer? Garry Monk? I could actually see that one. Rumour has it Coates Snr has Martin O’Neil on speed dial. You'd like to think his Forest disaster has ended any prospect of that. But someone hide his phone just in case!
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Aug 21, 2019 21:56:11 GMT
We should appoint that guy who is the agent of badou ndiaye and etebo as manager. It might sort out the problems in midfield
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Post by stokiekm on Aug 21, 2019 21:57:16 GMT
Because we can’t keep sacking managers and it’s still August. Tonight was a disaster but I think we have to stick with it until the end of October at the earliest, because, as odd as it is to say after tonight and when we’re stone bottom, it hasn’t been all bad and if we can iron out the individual mistakes there is something to build on. There is really nothing to build on playing that formation with these players. Players are downing tools. do you really think that players, many of whom are new would be downing tools after 4 games? Don't you realise how ridiculous that sounds?
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Post by cousindupree on Aug 21, 2019 22:01:28 GMT
Jones ticks so many of Coates's boxes that it's unlikely Jones will go. He was cheap, British, favours British player above foreign, willing to work with fuck all budget....Jones is a Coates wet dream.Unless we are bottom 3 in December he is here for a good number of years, get used to mid table championship football for some time to come. It's probably a good thing Coates won't pull the trigger...his record of successful manager appointment is marginally better than Jones's win record.
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Post by JoeinOz on Aug 21, 2019 23:09:46 GMT
John Sitton give him a call. Fuck the technical shit.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2019 23:12:41 GMT
Jones ticks so many of Coates's boxes that it's unlikely Jones will go. He was cheap, British, favours British player above foreign, willing to work with fuck all budget....Jones is a Coates wet dream.Unless we are bottom 3 in December he is here for a good number of years, get used to mid table championship football for some time to come. It's probably a good thing Coates won't pull the trigger...his record of successful manager appointment is marginally better than Jones's win record. I don’t believe he was a Peter Coates choice. He would have an old fashioned dinosaur? Didn’t John Coates recently take the “credit” for finding him and also didn’t he admit at the club dinner thing that it was after someone mentioned him in a pub?
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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 21, 2019 23:15:28 GMT
They'll rebound to a stodgy, safe pair of hands if they make the change soon. Jokanovic is earning fortunes in the Gulf, and he wasn't interested when we weer a much more attractive proposition. Now, we're a complete mess. Stendel? Too shiny and new Cowley would make some sense, but they'll go for something the opposite of Jones. m.skybet.com/football/manager-specials/event/24473230Huddersfield odds Would Moyes come? No Would Hughton come? Maybe. Lee Bowyer? Garry Monk? I could actually see that one. Hughton would be a shoe in wouldn't he? Experienced manager who's got a team promoted from this division very recently, a decent bloke who is very well respected. Plays the right formation for the players we have. He wouldn't be top of my list 12 months ago but I think he's the best we could get now and would stabilise this sorry mess.
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Post by thevoid on Aug 21, 2019 23:16:58 GMT
Nigel Adkins?
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Post by andycooke96 on Aug 21, 2019 23:29:57 GMT
James o'connor is one to keep an eye on
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Post by wuzza on Aug 21, 2019 23:34:35 GMT
Truth of the matter is that the current bloke has so much in his favour it’s untrue. If he can’t make a go of it it’s nobodies fault but his own. Countless managers would think this a dream appointment and we would have no problem in attracting high quality applications.
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Post by marylandstoke on Aug 22, 2019 0:48:19 GMT
There are some truly, truly terrifying names on that list.
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Post by upthefud on Aug 22, 2019 2:29:44 GMT
Moyes or Monk
Monk did a good job at Birmingham last season
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Post by strangerthingshappen on Aug 22, 2019 6:27:25 GMT
There are some truly, truly terrifying names on that list. I thought that myself.. Looks even worse looking at it again today....,..
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Post by nott1 on Aug 22, 2019 6:33:36 GMT
We've had two up and coming managers in succession.....look where that has got us!
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