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Post by thisisouryear on Aug 25, 2019 10:54:51 GMT
Whilst he is not managing another club then to me we should at least try, it's not like we can't afford him. Offer him a nice 3 year deal and a tidy reward if he gets us to the prem. Money talks and if the deal is right then i am sure he would come. If he wants a managerial career then he has to start somewhere why not here? Because he's in a position to bide his time and wait for a more favourable opportunity. He has too much to lose. If he has faith in his ability it won't matter where he goes he will succeed. If he isn't good enough for us he won't be good enough for a big job. Its not like were a small club either, i think we are an attractive option for someone like him.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 25, 2019 11:01:57 GMT
Because he's in a position to bide his time and wait for a more favourable opportunity. He has too much to lose. If he has faith in his ability it won't matter where he goes he will succeed. If he isn't good enough for us he won't be good enough for a big job. Its not like were a small club either, i think we are an attractive option for someone like him. As things stand, he'd be in the conversation for probably four or five of the biggest eight jobs in the country and likely have options abroad too. What's in it for him to come to us when we're in this state and rooted, especially since he's another 'project' manager who'd need time to build things? He's in a position to be picky.
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Post by serpico on Aug 25, 2019 11:09:08 GMT
Can we read anything into the club not making any comments regarding this poor start ?
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Post by hyaduck on Aug 25, 2019 11:16:37 GMT
If Jones is sacked is there any decent foreign coaches out of work?
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Post by Clayton Wood on Aug 25, 2019 11:18:32 GMT
Can we read anything into the club not making any comments regarding this poor start ? Expect a 'don't see what all the fuss is about' statement soon.
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Post by cousindupree on Aug 25, 2019 11:52:30 GMT
If Jones is sacked is there any decent foreign coaches out of work? Well we don't do foreign players any more and we have never had a foreign coach appointed by Coates so unlikely. Having said that the current manager speaks a language nobody understands so maybe Coates is warming to the idea. 😀
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Aug 25, 2019 11:56:32 GMT
Of the names banded about,I would have to say Houghton. Would be a real shock if we went abroad for one.
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Post by matelot1996 on Aug 25, 2019 12:26:10 GMT
I think the natural progression of this season will be for NJ to be sacked at some point. As for available replacements.
Alardyce - Will not come to Stoke with this squad Moyes - See above Houghton - Same as above. Benitez - Give your head a wobble - No chance Pullis - 5000 Season tickets in the bin Steve Bould - Who Knows
The Squad we have and potential lack of funds to invest in January could be our undoing in terms of attracting any competent manager. If we get a kicking in our next 2 - 3 matches it will be interested to see how our “Leadership” react.
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Post by Jimm on Aug 25, 2019 12:29:12 GMT
Should of kept Lambert for this league
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Post by dutchstokie on Aug 25, 2019 12:40:22 GMT
Giovanni van Bronckhorst for me
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Post by serpico on Aug 25, 2019 12:41:29 GMT
I think the natural progression of this season will be for NJ to be sacked at some point. As for available replacements. Alardyce - Will not come to Stoke with this squad Moyes - See above Houghton - Same as above. Benitez - Give your head a wobble - No chance Pullis - 5000 Season tickets in the bin Steve Bould - Who Knows The Squad we have and potential lack of funds to invest in January could be our undoing in terms of attracting any competent manager. If we get a kicking in our next 2 - 3 matches it will be interested to see how our “Leadership” react. I think the issue with Moyes and allardyce is probably wage demands, I think they’d both come if we paid them what they asked for. Hughton would be realistic, but would he want it now ? ... I think he would if we act now and not wait till we’re mired in a relegation battle.
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Post by Clem Fandango on Aug 25, 2019 12:48:49 GMT
Giovanni van Bronckhorst for me Would he come though?
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Post by MilanStokie on Aug 25, 2019 12:49:44 GMT
It's Hughton.
Not Houghton, Hughton.
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Post by FrankButcher on Aug 25, 2019 12:53:55 GMT
I think the natural progression of this season will be for NJ to be sacked at some point. As for available replacements. Alardyce - Will not come to Stoke with this squad Moyes - See above Houghton - Same as above. Benitez - Give your head a wobble - No chance Pullis - 5000 Season tickets in the bin Steve Bould - Who Knows The Squad we have and potential lack of funds to invest in January could be our undoing in terms of attracting any competent manager. If we get a kicking in our next 2 - 3 matches it will be interested to see how our “Leadership” react. I think the issue with Moyes and allardyce is probably wage demands, I think they’d both come if we paid them what they asked for. Hughton would be realistic, but would he want it now ? ... I think he would if we act now and not wait till we’re mired in a relegation battle. Hughton would come here in my opinion he took over brighton when they were 21st in the league the key thing we can't dither like we have done before we need to make sure that we have the replacement lined up to step straight in but it has to happen soon or we could find ourselves further adrift.
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Post by serpico on Aug 25, 2019 12:54:51 GMT
Kris Huten would definitely come here.
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Post by fraybentos on Aug 25, 2019 12:56:21 GMT
Love get Benitez in, would turn us around. Been in the championship before with Newcastle
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Post by kidcrewbob on Aug 25, 2019 13:00:23 GMT
Kris Huten would definitely come here. yeh - I quite fancy that criz hugetown...
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Post by stokief on Aug 25, 2019 13:05:08 GMT
Love get Benitez in, would turn us around. Been in the championship before with Newcastle Benitez shoud've been brought in before the fateful season of relegation began as I said at the time Now, I'm not afraid to say, in spite of the flak, the only man(should there be no absolute solid improvement with Nath in the next couple of games) is Tony. I also predicted about three years ago that we would be languishing at the bottom of the Championship with no direction at this very time or near abouts. I also said that Tony would make a return to put right what went wrong for him just like Unc Pete did. Think he'd still like a statue Trouble is ,we may look too much like a lost cause for TP, or another floundering team'll snap him up whilst we dither. I can't predict the future but somehow I saw all of this coming. I truely believe that it's meant to be. May the 'Capped one' return, THERE I'VE SAID IT and deliver us from free-fall obscurity!!
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Post by TheWiseMaster on Aug 25, 2019 13:23:23 GMT
Pulis would cost us thousands of fans and untold agravation
Not worth the risk - there have to be better options
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Post by serpico on Aug 25, 2019 13:35:45 GMT
I think the issue with Moyes and allardyce is probably wage demands, I think they’d both come if we paid them what they asked for. Hughton would be realistic, but would he want it now ? ... I think he would if we act now and not wait till we’re mired in a relegation battle. Hughton would come here in my opinion he took over brighton when they were 21st in the league the key thing we can't dither like we have done before we need to make sure that we have the replacement lined up to step straight in but it has to happen soon or we could find ourselves further adrift. I don’t see the point in delaying things, Jones isn’t about to miraculously turn around a run of 3 wins in 26 games and have us competing for a play off spot, just isn’t going to happen. We needed a manger to come in and hit the ground running, an experienced head, not one still learning his trade. This was my concern when jones took over, he was way too green for a club like stoke, he might well end up back at Luton before the end of the season!
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Post by TheWiseMaster on Aug 25, 2019 13:37:43 GMT
Gary Monk a possible?
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 25, 2019 13:39:18 GMT
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Post by Somebody_Told_Me on Aug 25, 2019 13:40:54 GMT
Good shout but I hate the dickhead, and suppose mose Stokies do. If he had a bad run, we'd be all over him.
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Post by TheWiseMaster on Aug 25, 2019 13:56:05 GMT
Good shout but I hate the dickhead, and suppose mose Stokies do. If he had a bad run, we'd be all over him. Agree - but far far more can't stand Pulis
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Post by TheWiseMaster on Aug 25, 2019 14:07:59 GMT
Not good at all - why on earth do well paid managers allow themselves to be involved in such sleaze - greed I guess. Pulis had similar at Palace and Gillingham
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Aug 25, 2019 14:40:08 GMT
This is the most depressing thread. Ever
Fans wanking them silly over the prospect of assorted failed dinosaur managers and the return of 442. Either that or Rafa Benitez.
Stick with Jones and his diamond and hope the gamble comes off for me. The alternatives are just horrible or hilariously unrealistic.
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Post by mcw on Aug 25, 2019 14:53:30 GMT
Interesting that Alex Neil is as short as 2/1 with Sky and Bet Victor for the Wednesday job. I'd take him if he'd come I think he would be spot on, did wonders at Norwich and was sacked in the usual manner of 5/6 years ago where championship teams came up and spent little and get relegated again- I.e. that season was no blot on his CV for me. You can tell he takes no shit and has worked minor miracles at Preston. He may have come when we appointed Jones, but now I am not too sure. We have gone from being an attractive proposition with money to spend (which attracted Rowett) to a rotting carcass with FFP looming and a seeming inability to offload our deadwood.
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Post by nott1 on Aug 25, 2019 16:06:17 GMT
Love get Benitez in, would turn us around. Been in the championship before with Newcastle He'll soon be sick to death of noodles! Once we waft a Chayz and bacon under his nose he'll be ours!
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Post by dutchstokie on Aug 25, 2019 16:18:40 GMT
Giovanni van Bronckhorst for me Would he come though? If Benitez can manage in the championship, If Cocu can, then dont see why not. Just depends on how much more money Coatesy wants to throw at it really doesnt it. Another I would look at is Markus Weinzerl..... I think he was at Stuttgart but could be wrong. Another I would seriously sound out is Gennaro Gattuso. If you want passion and commitment hes your man. Hes Diego Sieone on acid..... but was one hell of a player. He had hishands tied behind his back at A-C Milan somewhat when he was manager there If I was in Coatesys shoes I would ask any of them to name his price.
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Post by thevoid on Aug 25, 2019 16:44:18 GMT
If Benitez can manage in the championship, If Cocu can, then dont see why not. Just depends on how much more money Coatesy wants to throw at it really doesnt it. Another I would look at is Markus Weinzerl..... I think he was at Stuttgart but could be wrong. Another I would seriously sound out is Gennaro Gattuso. If you want passion and commitment hes your man. Hes Diego Sieone on acid..... but was one hell of a player. He had hishands tied behind his back at A-C Milan somewhat when he was manager there If I was in Coatesys shoes I would ask any of them to name his price. It's a moot point. The current owners will not consider a foreign manager, even less so after the Flores fiasco.
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