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Post by chuckrocky on Aug 20, 2019 9:29:16 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2019 9:31:12 GMT
The Jones link I guess. Brighton haven’t recruited badly though.
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Post by march4 on Aug 20, 2019 9:35:58 GMT
I don’t see why we need anyone.
This is the managerial team’s job.
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Post by chuckrocky on Aug 20, 2019 9:37:03 GMT
Brighton seem to have recruited heavily from abroad over the past couple of years.
Doesn’t really tie in with our new Brexit policy.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 20, 2019 9:37:46 GMT
He's probably a yes man, ideal candidate.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2019 9:37:50 GMT
I don’t see why we need anyone. This is the managerial team’s job. You might change your mind when you find out he shot to fame under John Beck at Cambridge United as a centre half. He'll be right up your street.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2019 9:38:38 GMT
Remember him well from Cambridge and Charlton, I'm sure he scored a couple of headers against us but I could be dreaming.....
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2019 9:39:23 GMT
Brighton seem to have recruited heavily from abroad over the past couple of years. Doesn’t really tie in with our new Brexit policy. That's phase 2 starting from January......
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Post by march4 on Aug 20, 2019 9:48:34 GMT
I don’t see why we need anyone. This is the managerial team’s job. You might change your mind when you find out he shot to fame under John Beck at Cambridge United as a centre half. He'll be right up your street. Nevertheless, I firmly believe that player recruitment is the job of the manager and his team. If this man is effectively employed by Jones and eventually leaves with Jones then I would be happy.
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Post by DC1863 on Aug 20, 2019 9:48:54 GMT
Will he be coming in as Head of Recruitment or Chief Scout? See he was previously Chief Scout at Charlton and then just a scout at Brighton, so there's obviously a strong NJ link there.
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Post by potter25 on Aug 20, 2019 9:51:32 GMT
For those who think jones has little time I think this shows he’s going to get time and is bringing in his own staff from top to bottom..
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Post by sheds1862 on Aug 20, 2019 9:52:51 GMT
The Jones link I guess. Brighton haven’t recruited badly though. Really ? They have spent a fortune on non entities from abroad. By the way not suggesting he is rubbish but Brighton lack of strategy cost Hughton his job. A Mish mash side of Colombians, Iranians and many more
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2019 9:54:56 GMT
Who is it then?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2019 9:55:37 GMT
You might change your mind when you find out he shot to fame under John Beck at Cambridge United as a centre half. He'll be right up your street. Nevertheless, I firmly believe that player recruitment is the job of the manager and his team. If this man is effectively employed by Jones and eventually leaves with Jones then I would be happy. I don't think you are going to like modern football. It isn't how things are done at top clubs now. The Technical Director is sacrosanct to the owners and their overall philosophy, and the head coach is picked to suit. The Technical Director remains in place and if the head coach underperforms he is replaced with an identikit replacement that matches the philosophy.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2019 9:58:57 GMT
Nevertheless, I firmly believe that player recruitment is the job of the manager and his team. If this man is effectively employed by Jones and eventually leaves with Jones then I would be happy. I don't think you are going to like modern football. It isn't how things are done at top clubs now. The Technical Director is sacrosanct to the owners and their overall philosophy, and the head coach is picked to suit. The Technical Director remains in place and if the head coach underperforms he is replaced with an identikit replacement that matches the philosophy. This man isn't a technical director, he's "head of recruitment" it says - basically chief scout.
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Post by lordb on Aug 20, 2019 10:09:46 GMT
I don’t see why we need anyone. This is the managerial team’s job. Not this side of 1990's it isn't. Every club in at least the two divisions has someone other than the manager doing recruitment. Problem we hat is our recruitment person is hamstrung by Scholes piss poor (in the main) negotiations.
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Post by numberounominion on Aug 20, 2019 10:14:59 GMT
The Jones link I guess. Brighton haven’t recruited badly though. you can say that again .
I was in brighton a month ago and there was an article in the local paper ( the Argus)
Chris Hughton said he was totally shocked , when he got called to the boardroom for the meeting ... he said normally you see these things coming , but I thought I was doing a good job
Hughton's view is the club made poor signings and he did a decent job .
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2019 10:15:18 GMT
I don't think you are going to like modern football. It isn't how things are done at top clubs now. The Technical Director is sacrosanct to the owners and their overall philosophy, and the head coach is picked to suit. The Technical Director remains in place and if the head coach underperforms he is replaced with an identikit replacement that matches the philosophy. This man isn't a technical director, he's "head of recruitment" it says - basically chief scout. So he's a Kevin Cruickshank replacement then, taking over from Lee Maybury who stepped in after Kevin left? My point on modern football still stands.
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Post by clarkeda on Aug 20, 2019 10:17:29 GMT
Would much prefer the Brentford crew.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2019 10:18:13 GMT
This man isn't a technical director, he's "head of recruitment" it says - basically chief scout. So he's a Kevin Cruickshank replacement then, taking over from Lee Maybury who stepped in after Kevin left? My point on modern football still stands. Yes but at the same time, what you're saying is about a techincal director, you don't take a chief scout from Brighton and make them technical director because of a link with the manager. March is right - this seems fine, although Brighton's signings have been a bit off the wall and hit and miss at times, as long as he's here with Jones and he's not going to be our technical director regardless of whether Jones stays or goes.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Aug 20, 2019 10:21:59 GMT
Wasn’t he part of John Beck’s famous Cambridge side?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2019 10:24:28 GMT
So he's a Kevin Cruickshank replacement then, taking over from Lee Maybury who stepped in after Kevin left? My point on modern football still stands. Yes but at the same time, what you're saying is about a techincal director, you don't take a chief scout from Brighton and make them technical director because of a link with the manager. March is right - this seems fine, although Brighton's signings have been a bit off the wall and hit and miss at times, as long as he's here with Jones and he's not going to be our technical director regardless of whether Jones stays or goes. That's fine, the original tweet is wrong and he isn't a Cartwright replacement. My point about top clubs and Technical Directors/Sporting Directors and how modern clubs are working still stands, regardless of whether Chapple is coming as Chief Scout, chief bottle washer or whatever. That's essentially how Huddersfield and Norwich went from lower Championship to Premier League in one turnaround season-ish.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2019 10:25:11 GMT
The Jones link I guess. Brighton haven’t recruited badly though. you can say that again .
I was in brighton a month ago and there was an article in the local paper ( the Argus)
Chris Hughton said he was totally shocked , when he got called to the boardroom for the meeting ... he said normally you see these things coming , but I thought I was doing a good job
Hughton's view is the club made poor signings and he did a decent job .
The fan's view is that his football was dogshit.
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Post by numberounominion on Aug 20, 2019 10:26:19 GMT
we are not Arsenal ( obviously )
There was an article in the paper a couple of months ago about arsenal looking to fill this position
They were fixing up meetings with
Paul Mitchell . former head of recruitment at spurs , steered Daniel Levy to sign Delle Ali , kieren trippier , toby Aldervelt ( cant spell ! ) , now at Red Bull Leipzig Marc Overmars , recruited loads of great young players at Ajax Some Spanish guy , signed up loads of good youngsters in la Liga
We are not in Arsenal's league , but why do we have to be so amateur ?
Why can't we have someone with a good track record , all be it at a lower level
Brighton have spent millions on awful recruitment .Whoever is signing players there is Carto's twin brother . Competing against him for some hopelessness award
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Post by LankyPotter on Aug 20, 2019 10:29:34 GMT
The Jones link I guess. Brighton haven’t recruited badly though. There seems to be an actual footballing philosophy behind the recruitment at Brighton so this excites me.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Aug 20, 2019 10:35:26 GMT
A chief scout and a Director of Football/Technical Director are be completely different. Steve Walsh was Leicester's Chief scout for responsible for unearthing N'Golo Kante, Vardy, Mahrez et al. but when he moved to a role certainly more related to Cartwright's he absolutely bombed it at Everton spending nearly 200 million on what was largely garbage.
If Chapple he is coming in I'd say more he's changing the role Cartwright had rather than a straight swap. These things are fluid.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Aug 20, 2019 10:37:29 GMT
we are not Arsenal ( obviously ) There was an article in the paper a couple of months ago about arsenal looking to fill this position They were fixing up meetings with Paul Mitchell . former head of recruitment at spurs , steered Daniel Levy to sign Delle Ali , kieren trippier , toby Aldervelt ( cant spell ! ) , now at Red Bull Leipzig Marc Overmars , recruited loads of great young players at Ajax Some Spanish guy , signed up loads of good youngsters in la Liga We are not in Arsenal's league , but why do we have to be so amateur ? Why can't we have someone with a good track record , all be it at a lower level Brighton have spent millions on awful recruitment .Whoever is signing players there is Carto's twin brother . Competing against him for some hopelessness award Monchi.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Aug 20, 2019 10:42:58 GMT
Wonder if it means there won’t be a Cartwright replacement as this role is surely the key report and appointment of Cartwrights former role .
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Post by 11wilkosinateam on Aug 20, 2019 10:47:29 GMT
The Jones link I guess. Brighton haven’t recruited badly though. Really ? They have spent a fortune on non entities from abroad. By the way not suggesting he is rubbish but Brighton lack of strategy cost Hughton his job. A Mish mash side of Colombians, Iranians and many more I remember a big fuss being made of Brightons DBAD signing policy D ont B e A D ickhead Seemed like a good/novel idea
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 20, 2019 10:48:44 GMT
We've never had a Technical Director as most people understand it, have we?
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