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Post by crapslinger on Aug 8, 2020 21:01:06 GMT
No comments on Momo's outbursts and refusal to discuss things in a reasonable manner though, saying as you're supposedly against 'cheap shots' on The Oatcake? Most of Momo's output is abuse of people with a different viewpoint, but I guess that's ok as you agree with him.... I'll chance my arm with you- do you think last weekend's posturing in Brixton was acceptable? I've already asked Momo but it's the wrong thread apparently. And the only reason it cropped up on this thread is because the other ones were locked due to abuse by him. You've become a lack of self awareness fanny now than have you š¤£ ! again why did you bring the colour of their skin into it ? pretty sure you were once against black shirted paramilitary types marching on the streets of the UK or have you changed your mind ? not to clued up Mr Mosley's mob myself can you educate the board on his black shirts and your new right wing beliefs ? or are you not going to answer again
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 8, 2020 21:12:59 GMT
You've become a lack of self awareness fanny now than have you š¤£ Just bore off. You used to be a decent poster who, despite us rarely agreeing on politics, had a few interesting things to say on other things. Now you're just full of bile. Found out. Exposed, bitter and indistinguishable from the likes of crapslinger. Well done mate. Quite a journey you've been on yourself!š
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 8, 2020 21:18:02 GMT
Just bore off. You used to be a decent poster who, despite us rarely agreeing on politics, had a few interesting things to say on other things. Now you're just full of bile. Found out, exposed, bitter and indistinguishable from crapslinger. Well done mate. Quite a journey yourself. Man up Mo give me some answers or is that corner you have been backed into yet again a tad to tight for you are you for or against black shirted paramilitary's marching on the streets of the UK spreading their hate and whipping up racism ?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 8, 2020 21:23:52 GMT
Found out, exposed, bitter and indistinguishable from crapslinger. Well done mate. Quite a journey yourself. Man up Mo give me some answers or is that corner you have been backed into yet again a tad to tight for you are you for or against black shirted paramilitary's marching on the streets of the UK spreading their hate and whipping up racism ? Go start your own thread with voidy that black people are wank, because that's what you obviously want. I'll comment on that. Now about the rapid increase in vicious right wing beatings of minorities? For or against?
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Post by thevoid on Aug 8, 2020 21:26:45 GMT
Just bore off. You used to be a decent poster who, despite us rarely agreeing on politics, had a few interesting things to say on other things. Now you're just full of bile. Found out. Exposed, bitter and indistinguishable from the likes of crapslinger. Well done mate. Quite a journey you've been on yourself!š The journey I've been on lately is a struggle with depression. The rest of your post, you're rambling. I'll leave you to it.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 8, 2020 21:27:54 GMT
Found out. Exposed, bitter and indistinguishable from the likes of crapslinger. Well done mate. Quite a journey you've been on yourself!š The journey I've been on lately is a struggle with depression. The rest of your post, you're rambling. I'll leave you to it. Sorry to hear that. Good luck.
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Post by thevoid on Aug 8, 2020 21:31:16 GMT
The journey I've been on lately is a struggle with depression. The rest of your post, you're rambling. I'll leave you to it. Sorry to hear that. Good luck. No problem. Nothing a return to normality, work and a few days in the sun won't fix.
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 8, 2020 21:37:42 GMT
Man up Mo give me some answers or is that corner you have been backed into yet again a tad to tight for you are you for or against black shirted paramilitary's marching on the streets of the UK spreading their hate and whipping up racism ? Go start your own thread with voidy that black people are wank, because that's what you obviously want. I'll comment on that. Now about the rapid increase in vicious right wing beatings of minorities? For or against? Against now your turn, where is the proof of the increase in vicious right wing beatings of minorities ?
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Post by cobhamstokey on Aug 8, 2020 21:47:25 GMT
Man up Mo give me some answers or is that corner you have been backed into yet again a tad to tight for you Ā are you for or against black shirted paramilitary's marching on the streets of the UK spreading their hate and whipping up racism ? Go start your own thread with voidy that black people are wank, because that's what you obviously want. I'll comment on that. Now about the rapid increase in vicious right wing beatings of minorities? For or against? I went on a media course a while back related to my job ran by a guy who used to be on Playschool. I think his name was Christopher Lillicrap. The one thing that I remember him say was if youāre ever asked a difficult question never answer it just change the subject and talk about something else. Never answer the question directly. Have you been on it too? :0)
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 8, 2020 22:05:57 GMT
Go start your own thread with voidy that black people are wank, because that's what you obviously want. I'll comment on that. Now about the rapid increase in vicious right wing beatings of minorities? For or against? I went on a media course a while back related to my job ran by a guy who used to be on Playschool. I think his name was Christopher Lillicrap. The one thing that I remember him say was if youāre ever asked a difficult question never answer it just change the subject and talk about something else. Never answer the question directly. Have you been on it too? :0) A cowards way out, deflect, deny and discredit never trust someone who will not give a straight answer to a straight question they always have something to hide 99.9% it's the truth classic whataboutery it's his MO he would have been a politician if he was intelligent enough, instead he's practicing his "skills" on the fcuking Oatcake message board
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Post by marwood on Aug 8, 2020 22:25:04 GMT
Go start your own thread with voidy that black people are wank, because that's what you obviously want. I'll comment on that. Now about the rapid increase in vicious right wing beatings of minorities? For or against? I went on a media course a while back related to my job ran by a guy who used to be on Playschool. I think his name was Christopher Lillicrap. The one thing that I remember him say was if youāre ever asked a difficult question never answer it just change the subject and talk about something else. Never answer the question directly. Have you been on it too? :0) Love a bit of the Lillicrap. Guitar. Perm. Songs. If he was doing courses round my way Iād go on them all, heās mint
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Post by cobhamstokey on Aug 8, 2020 22:26:36 GMT
I went on a media course a while back related to my job ran by a guy who used to be on Playschool. I think his name was Christopher Lillicrap. The one thing that I remember him say was if youāre ever asked a difficult question never answer it just change the subject and talk about something else. Never answer the question directly. Have you been on it too? :0) Love a bit of the Lillicrap. Guitar. Perm. Songs. If he was doing courses round my way Iād go on them all, heās mint He was very good seemed like a nice guy.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2020 22:30:05 GMT
If we don't want migrants cheating death coming over on overcrowded dinghies we could always agree to take our fair share of them in the first place. Especially considering it's our foreign policy that assists in bombing the shit out of their homeland, either directly or by flogging weapons to unscrupulous regimes.
Just a thought.......
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Post by xchpotter on Aug 8, 2020 22:45:25 GMT
Go start your own thread with voidy that black people are wank, because that's what you obviously want. I'll comment on that. Now about the rapid increase in vicious right wing beatings of minorities? For or against? I went on a media course a while back related to my job ran by a guy who used to be on Playschool. I think his name was Christopher Lillicrap. The one thing that I remember him say was if youāre ever asked a difficult question never answer it just change the subject and talk about something else. Never answer the question directly. Have you been on it too? :0) I did the same course with him. Here was me thinking he was an alright bloke having been on kids TV, but what a wanker when we did practice interviews. He wouldnāt let me get a word in edge ways, twisted everything I said and made me agree with what he said and undermine my own answers. Heād piss over Jerry Paxman any day of the week.ššš
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Post by cobhamstokey on Aug 8, 2020 22:47:31 GMT
I went on a media course a while back related to my job ran by a guy who used to be on Playschool. I think his name was Christopher Lillicrap. The one thing that I remember him say was if youāre ever asked a difficult question never answer it just change the subject and talk about something else. Never answer the question directly. Have you been on it too? :0) I did the same course with him. Here was me thinking he was an alright bloke having been on kids TV, but what a wanker when we did practice interviews. He wouldnāt let me get a word in edge ways, twisted everything I said and made me agree with what he said and undermine my own answers. Heād piss over Jerry Paxman any day of the week.ššš We should invite him on here
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Post by wagsastokie on Aug 8, 2020 22:47:36 GMT
The language farage has used over the years has not always been helpful to social cohesion And often has sailed very close to the wind But without doubt they be been effective On this subject should genuine asylum seekers be intitled to come to this country of course they should Should large amounts of economic migrants be intitled to enter the UK than the answer is no And should the French do more to stop them of course they should will they of course not turning a blind eye gets rid of what they consider a problem The solution we need a agreement where stringent compassionate screening is done in France and those with a legitimate right to enter are speedily dealt with You moved out of your place of birth didn't you? Are you an economic migrant? Or what type would you describe yourself as? I know loads of people who looked around and thought there's nothing for me here and jumped ship Sanctimonious wankers like you haven't a clue how real life works My ex wife decided for her own reasons to go aboriginal (walk about) Left me with four sons under ten to bring up on my own Both my parents were already dead so I gave up the family business and moved 63 miles 472 yards away as both her parents were still alive and they and my sons deaerved contact There was no economic benefit involved If I seem a touched peeved I do apologise as I have had a couple of beers with my four sons as its the first anniversary of there estranged mothers death
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Post by xchpotter on Aug 8, 2020 23:01:21 GMT
I did the same course with him. Here was me thinking he was an alright bloke having been on kids TV, but what a wanker when we did practice interviews. He wouldnāt let me get a word in edge ways, twisted everything I said and made me agree with what he said and undermine my own answers. Heād piss over Jerry Paxman any day of the week.ššš We should invite him on here Heād have a field day.š
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Post by yeswilko on Aug 9, 2020 1:14:39 GMT
You moved out of your place of birth didn't you? Are you an economic migrant? Or what type would you describe yourself as? I know loads of people who looked around and thought there's nothing for me here and jumped ship Sanctimonious wankers like you haven't a clue how real life works My ex wife decided for her own reasons to go aboriginal (walk about) Left me with four sons under ten to bring up on my own Both my parents were already dead so I gave up the family business and moved 63 miles 472 yards away as both her parents were still alive and they and my sons deaerved contact There was no economic benefit involved If I seem a touched peeved I do apologise as I have had a couple of beers with my four sons as its the first anniversary of there estranged mothers death Cheers, you'll be massively understanding of why other people move place to be near family then won't you?!
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Post by cobhamstokey on Aug 9, 2020 6:04:18 GMT
Sanctimonious wankers like you haven't a clue how real life works My ex wife decided for her own reasons to go aboriginal (walk about) Left me with four sons under ten to bring up on my own Both my parents were already dead so I gave up the family business and moved 63 miles 472 yards away as both her parents were still alive and they and my sons deaerved contact There was no economic benefit involved If I seem a touched peeved I do apologise as I have had a couple of beers with my four sons as its the first anniversary of there estranged mothers death Cheers, you'll be massively understanding of why other people move place to be near family then won't you?! There has to be a limit though and as someone earlier said there has to be rules set in relation to employment and people being skilled to do a job when they come over. Right now the situation is being abused and where does it end? In a situation where the country is so overcrowded that there isnāt the infrastructure for health, housing, schooling, roads to support everyone. Iām all for helping others but it has to be measured and done in the right way and not through the back door where many of these people coming in are bought in and abused through modern slavery such is their vulnerability and low expectations. There has to be a limit. For what itās worth I think your out of order comparing Wagas situation to whatās going on in the channel as its hugely different and you canāt compare the 2. I have worked directly with some of the younger asylum seekers and theyāre a decent bunch with one or two exceptions. If you want to truly do your bit I do know that theyāre always looking for host families to support the younger girls / boys and give them lodgings. You seem very passionate about giving them a chance so it could be a great opportunity for you to help out.
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Post by yeswilko on Aug 9, 2020 6:54:19 GMT
Cheers, you'll be massively understanding of why other people move place to be near family then won't you?! There has to be a limit though and as someone earlier said there has to be rules set in relation to employment and people being skilled to do a job when they come over. Right now the situation is being abused and where does it end? In a situation where the country is so overcrowded that there isnāt the infrastructure for health, housing, schooling, roads to support everyone. Iām all for helping others but it has to be measured and done in the right way and not through the back door where many of these people coming in are bought in and abused through modern slavery such is their vulnerability and low expectations. There has to be a limit. For what itās worth I think your out of order comparing Wagas situation to whatās going on in the channel as its hugely different and you canāt compare the 2. I have worked directly with some of the younger asylum seekers and theyāre a decent bunch with one or two exceptions. If you want to truly do your bit I do know that theyāre always looking for host families to support the younger girls / boys and give them lodgings. You seem very passionate about giving them a chance so it could be a great opportunity for you to help out. I didn't know what his situation was, which is why I asked. I do my bit, got a 32 year old afgan (electrician) and a 30 year old Syrian (plasterer) working on jobs, supporting their families. One is renting and the other has managed to get a mortgage. Lovely hard working blokes, both have been through more than any of us can imagine. Just want to work, learn integrate and support themselves and their kids
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Post by cobhamstokey on Aug 9, 2020 8:45:45 GMT
There has to be a limit though and as someone earlier said there has to be rules set in relation to employment and people being skilled to do a job when they come over. Right now the situation is being abused and where does it end? In a situation where the country is so overcrowded that there isnāt the infrastructure for health, housing, schooling, roads to support everyone. Iām all for helping others but it has to be measured and done in the right way and not through the back door where many of these people coming in are bought in and abused through modern slavery such is their vulnerability and low expectations. There has to be a limit. For what itās worth I think your out of order comparing Wagas situation to whatās going on in the channel as its hugely different and you canāt compare the 2. I have worked directly with some of the younger asylum seekers and theyāre a decent bunch with one or two exceptions. If you want to truly do your bit I do know that theyāre always looking for host families to support the younger girls / boys and give them lodgings. You seem very passionate about giving them a chance so it could be a great opportunity for you to help out. I didn't know what his situation was, which is why I asked. I do my bit, got a 32 year old afgan (electrician) and a 30 year old Syrian (plasterer) working on jobs, supporting their families. One is renting and the other has managed to get a mortgage. Lovely hard working blokes, both have been through more than any of us can imagine. Just want to work, learn integrate and support themselves and their kids And theyāre the type I have absolutely no issue with. The unfortunate thing is for everyone of those there are others looking to exploit the system. Thatās why it needs monitoring more closely. I have to say that having met a number of young AS they put a lot of our youngsters to shame in relation to manners and work ethic. That said we canāt let everyone in for the reasons I stated re an infestructure not able to support them.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 9, 2020 8:55:15 GMT
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 9, 2020 9:17:20 GMT
There is a serious point in what Farage says - or there nearly is. As usual with him he focuses on the āhateā aspect of illegal immigration. The serious point concerns his comment about how videos like the Liverpool one promote the idea of emigration by illegal means which is, of course, extremely dangerous - tens of thousands of death. (Farage, of course does not care about this. In fact he diminishes the danger). Not to mention the problems of being trapped in modern slavery under the control of the criminal gangs that provide the ātravelā and not forgetting how this emigration is denuding countries of much of their own talent and people. This isnāt to say I have the answers that address the multiple factors that drive emigration, itās just to say the indirect promotion of illegal immigration, regardless of good intention, needs to be considered In the round. It aināt all sweetness. There are terrible unintended consequences.
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 9, 2020 9:32:11 GMT
Still waiting for some answers from you Mo, not liking the truth are you why is that ?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 9, 2020 9:34:06 GMT
Still waiting for some answers from you Mo, not liking the truth are you why is that ? I still can't see your 'it's all black people's fault thread'. At least own your tawdry views.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 9, 2020 9:36:28 GMT
There is a serious point in what Farage says - or there nearly is. As usual with him he focuses on the āhateā aspect of illegal immigration. The serious point concerns his comment about how videos like the Liverpool one promote the idea of emigration by illegal means which is, of course, extremely dangerous - tens of thousands of death. (Farage, of course does not care about this. In fact he diminishes the danger). Not to mention the problems of being trapped in modern slavery under the control of the criminal gangs that provide the ātravelā and not forgetting how this emigration is denuding countries of much of their own talent and people. This isnāt to say I have the answers that address the multiple factors that drive emigration, itās just to say the indirect promotion of illegal immigration, regardless of good intention, needs to be considered In the round. It aināt all sweetness. There are terrible unintended consequences. Farage isn't interested in any of that. He just wants to shake his fist at the continent and upturn dinghies with kids in them
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 9, 2020 9:38:52 GMT
There has to be a limit though and as someone earlier said there has to be rules set in relation to employment and people being skilled to do a job when they come over. Right now the situation is being abused and where does it end? In a situation where the country is so overcrowded that there isnāt the infrastructure for health, housing, schooling, roads to support everyone. Iām all for helping others but it has to be measured and done in the right way and not through the back door where many of these people coming in are bought in and abused through modern slavery such is their vulnerability and low expectations. There has to be a limit. For what itās worth I think your out of order comparing Wagas situation to whatās going on in the channel as its hugely different and you canāt compare the 2. I have worked directly with some of the younger asylum seekers and theyāre a decent bunch with one or two exceptions. If you want to truly do your bit I do know that theyāre always looking for host families to support the younger girls / boys and give them lodgings. You seem very passionate about giving them a chance so it could be a great opportunity for you to help out. I didn't know what his situation was, which is why I asked. I do my bit, got a 32 year old afgan (electrician) and a 30 year old Syrian (plasterer) working on jobs, supporting their families. One is renting and the other has managed to get a mortgage. Lovely hard working blokes, both have been through more than any of us can imagine. Just want to work, learn integrate and support themselves and their kids No one has a problem with taking in genuine asylum seekers, most people do have problems with illegal economic migrants coming into our country to take advantage of our healthcare systems etc. and benefits for which they have no legal entitlement, we have to clamp down on illegals both coming into the UK and the one's living here illegally by deporting them with no right to appeal, many of these people are coming from Africa why are they seeking political asylum ?
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 9, 2020 9:45:05 GMT
Still waiting for some answers from you Mo, not liking the truth are you why is that ? I still can't see your 'it's all black people's fault thread'. At least own your tawdry views. Come on coward let's have some answers
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 9, 2020 9:48:55 GMT
There is a serious point in what Farage says - or there nearly is. As usual with him he focuses on the āhateā aspect of illegal immigration. The serious point concerns his comment about how videos like the Liverpool one promote the idea of emigration by illegal means which is, of course, extremely dangerous - tens of thousands of death. (Farage, of course does not care about this. In fact he diminishes the danger). Not to mention the problems of being trapped in modern slavery under the control of the criminal gangs that provide the ātravelā and not forgetting how this emigration is denuding countries of much of their own talent and people. This isnāt to say I have the answers that address the multiple factors that drive emigration, itās just to say the indirect promotion of illegal immigration, regardless of good intention, needs to be considered In the round. It aināt all sweetness. There are terrible unintended consequences. Farage isn't interested in any of that. He just wants to shake his fist at the continent and upturn dinghies with kids in them Yes - I know. Itās why he is a deeply odious figure. A horrible person. But... there is more going on here than him. The unintended āpromotionā of illegal immigration is exacerbating the problems I mention. People doing that need to think hard about their actions. To reduce the discussion to the unpleasantness of Farage is a disservice to the plight of illegal immigrants.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 9, 2020 9:51:15 GMT
I still can't see your 'it's all black people's fault thread'. At least own your tawdry views. Come on coward let's have some answers Go on ask them on your own 'what about black people' thread, coward.
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