VAR

[sportsman]

I've just watched the decision. What the hell are people smoking? It came off his arm. Handball, no goal

Simple as that.

[boothenboys1863]

I hate it!! It’s bollocks, all we want as stoke fans is to get back up but what for? So we can try our very best spend millions and finish 8th! It’s shit! I’d much prefer the championship all day!

[owdestokie2]

Aug 17, 2019 18:34:36 GMT jeycov said:

Aug 17, 2019 18:29:18 GMT 1982stokie said:

Pathetic it literally scrapes a players elbow may have hit the Tottenham players arm as well. Just ridiculous

That’s the new interpretation of the rules not VAR
And it was the correct decision

Correct decision.......perhaps to the new rules but not in the spirit of football.  

Awful

[owdestokie2]

Aug 17, 2019 20:11:28 GMT sportsman said:

I've just watched the decision. What the hell are people smoking? It came off his arm. Handball, no goal

Simple as that.

Off his arm yes.  Could he do anything about it, was it deliberate? did he deliberately move his arm into an unnatural position to gain an advantage?   

If that’s  an an example of improving the standards of Football I’ll eat my hat

[sportsman]

Aug 17, 2019 20:24:44 GMT owdestokie2 said:

Aug 17, 2019 20:11:28 GMT sportsman said:

I've just watched the decision. What the hell are people smoking? It came off his arm. Handball, no goal

Simple as that.

Off his arm yes.  Could he do anything about it, was it deliberate? did he deliberately move his arm into an unnatural position to gain an advantage?   

If that’s  an an example of improving the standards of Football I’ll eat my hat

It was off his arm. The law says even if accidentally.

The player goes to head it. The dosy bastard misses with his head and his arm plays jesus in


What on earth is there even to debate?

[Pugsley]

Where was the VAR when the Lamela had his arms around the neck of Rodri in the 1st half?

[owdestokie2]

Aug 17, 2019 20:29:23 GMT sportsman said:

Aug 17, 2019 20:24:44 GMT owdestokie2 said:

Off his arm yes.  Could he do anything about it, was it deliberate? did he deliberately move his arm into an unnatural position to gain an advantage?   

If that’s  an an example of improving the standards of Football I’ll eat my hat

It was off his arm. The law says even if accidentally.

The player goes to head it. The dosy bastard misses with his head and his arm plays jesus in


What on earth is there even to debate?

The present law is an ass.  

The guy whose arm it struck did not intentionally try to gain any form of advantage, his arm was in a natural position. The ball struck him.

If you believe clinically sterile football is the way forward, fair enough.

[AlliG]

I am not surprised Crouchy announced his retirement when the "new" handball interpretation was announced.

He would have scored far less goals and set up less as the ball always seemed to have bobbled off his arm or hand at some stage.

Cameron Jerome's last minute thunderbolt against Southampton would also probably have been disallowed for the ball brushing Crouch's arm when he cushioned the ball back for Jerome.

[starkiller]

Funny to watch, that.

A different type of entertainment. Haha.

[JoeinOz]

The decision to disallow Man City's late 'winner' was correct. BUT it wasn't a clear and obvious error by the officials.

[Boothen]

Whole fucking VAR system and the new rules need fucking binning. How long is it going to be until having a proper mental when your team score doesn't happen any more because people are wary of VAR and/or these new, dumb fucking laws ruling the goal out?

[Veritas]

If the championship had VAR we would have had a penalty v QPR and Derby would have had a player sent off on Saturday, just saying.

[bigcashprizes]

I agree with Murphy


www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7367599/DANNY-MURPHY-obsession-perfection-means-VAR-killing-joy-game.html

[cheadlestokie]

Aug 19, 2019 6:41:22 GMT bigcashprizes said:

I agree with Murphy


www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7367599/DANNY-MURPHY-obsession-perfection-means-VAR-killing-joy-game.html

So do I.

The handball rule now is ludicrous.Referees have to make judgement calls for all sorts of decisions so why should they not make them for handball.
Then we can all have the usual argument as to whether they got it right.Part of the fun in some ways.
We now have arguments as to whether a technical decision from VAR is correct so what really is the difference apart from taking the excitement and elation away when your team has scored just in case someone miles away has seen something on a monitor which is checked over and over again.
The offside decision to rule out a goal due to what is perceived as a player being millimetres offside cannot be defended because,as said in the Mail article, they are not able to establish when the exact moment of the pass takes place and surely they need to be able to do so before they can make such tight decisions .
One good reason not to be in the Premier League for me.
I just hope they sort it out before we are back in next season!

[davelistersdad]

Making the league a level playing field for the first time since 92 is a bad thing?

Its disruptive but the corruption got a huge kick in its bollocks thanks to VAR

[lifelong]

"Its disruptive but the corruption got a huge kick in its bollocks thanks to VAR"

No it hasn't. In the case of penalties it is still down to someone's opinion. In the case of general referring its still up to the ref to give fouls in whichever way he sees them e.g. last minute free kick awarded on the edge of a box, Newcastle vs Liverpool penultimate game last year.

[reddipotter]

Aug 17, 2019 19:09:45 GMT Widget123 said:

Should be one call per half per team. Ref manages the game as usual. Frivolous or over ruled calls mean loss of the call for the remainder of the game. Do away with the ref relying on the video too much.

Exactly. This is what I've said all along. It's what works in just about every other sport. If you give control to the referee, they will understandably check everything. But football, in its arrogance, thinks it knows best and can't learn anything from sports which have been using video checks for years. Of course, it doesn't help that no one really knows what is a foul these days ('minimal contact', 'entitled to go down' etc) or what should be penalised as handball.

[estrangedsonoffaye]

Aug 18, 2019 0:55:53 GMT JoeinOz said:

The decision to disallow Man City's late 'winner' was correct. BUT it wasn't a clear and obvious error by the officials.

Factual decisions like handball and offside aren't subject to the clear and obvious error threshold of other decision according to the guidelines. I think that's why the attacking handball rules stands as it does, because it's a black and white decision in its current guise and it takes out the subjectivity of handballs in order to support the VAR.

[westgatelakes]

There`s absolutely nothing wrong with the VAR decision, It`s the stupid rule change that`s caused all of the controversy