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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 17:11:45 GMT
The latest swathe of fucking lunacy are the Anti-Natalists. www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-49298720"Thomas, 29, lives in the east of England, and although his idea of blowing up the world is something of a thought experiment, he is certain about one thing - humans should not have babies, and our species should gradually go extinct. Put simply, it's the idea that creating or destroying life requires the consent of the person who will be born or die." If you want a proper action on birthrates and the environemnt. Have a look at birthrates by average by nationality in London. Then nationalities by average by nationality in the UK. Northern Europe. Then for a bit of contrast have a look at South Sudan, eritrea etc. THEN have a look at who produces the most plastic, who produces the most sustainable housing/clothing etc. THEN and only then come to me with your postmodern neomarxist selfhating bullshit "Thomas" Fucking mug. Anyway discuss.
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Post by ilfracoombestokie3 on Aug 13, 2019 17:20:30 GMT
I'd agree with that, after 14 kids they are doing my head in.
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Post by franklin66 on Aug 13, 2019 17:21:21 GMT
As soon as I saw your post i decided not to read the article just another sanctimonious arsehole preaching. It's my life and I'll do as I see fit and live it my way.
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Post by bathstoke on Aug 13, 2019 17:21:25 GMT
It’s the only commandment of Gods that humanity has adhered to. “Go forth & multiply”
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Post by PotteringThrough on Aug 13, 2019 17:23:55 GMT
His child could be the next Greta Thunberg, promoting really positive action to climate change.
Alternatively, the child could be like my toddler who won’t go to fucking sleep at night!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 17:49:17 GMT
His child could be the next Greta Thunberg, promoting really positive action to climate change. Alternatively, the child could be like my toddler who won’t go to fucking sleep at night! She's absolutely gripped by self loathing and preachery, Much like Dianne Abbott she's a product of no-one ever saying "You actually need talent to preach at people." Speaking of which - This guy gets it. Change the name in your post to this kid and I'm in
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Post by zerps on Aug 13, 2019 18:05:12 GMT
There has to be a shit boring reason for everything nowadays
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Post by auntiegeorge on Aug 13, 2019 21:38:36 GMT
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Post by starkiller on Aug 13, 2019 21:47:19 GMT
I'm glad these types are not having children.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 22:25:54 GMT
I'm glad these types are not having children. The Beeb shouldn't be giving oxygen to the idea. They don't give a balanced view in the article there's no real criticism.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Aug 14, 2019 5:45:06 GMT
Have 1 less child than what? Does this imply that all parents need to "Sophie's Choice" one of their current crop of offspring off?
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Post by foster on Aug 14, 2019 6:19:23 GMT
If you want people to stop having so many children then all you have to do is stop giving out child allowance after the first child. That'll soon stop people having so many kids that they can then live of the benefits.
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Post by Northy on Aug 14, 2019 6:30:43 GMT
My eldest son has said for a few years he doesn't want children as there's too many people in the world. He doesn't preach it to anyone though. He's a vegan and a conservationist, and has lived in some right shit holes whilst trying to make the world a better place for some sanctimonious twats who don't give a fuck and take their fat waddling arses and offspring out for a day leaving their litter everywhere
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Post by foster on Aug 14, 2019 6:44:57 GMT
My eldest son has said for a few years he doesn't want children as there's too many people in the world. He doesn't preach it to anyone though. He's a vegan and a conservationist, and has lived in some right shit holes whilst trying to make the world a better place for some sanctimonious twats who don't give a fuck and take their fat waddling arses and offspring out for a day leaving their litter everywhere Fair play to him. I cut down on meat, I recycle and I don't buy plastic, but I couldn't do it to that extent. Last time I went to Warrington (for example) I couldn't believe how much litter there was. Just taking a stroll to the local ASDA it was everywhere in the hedges and on the sides of the street. Cans, bottles, crisp packets, fag packets, etc... and this was walking through what would be considered one of the nicer suburban areas. One thing the UK should adopt (like other Westernised European countries) is getting cash back for returning crates and empty bottles to the supermarket. That'll soon clear up half the litter you see lying around. You'd likely have kids clearing it up just to get the extra pocket money.
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Post by Northy on Aug 14, 2019 7:08:15 GMT
My eldest son has said for a few years he doesn't want children as there's too many people in the world. He doesn't preach it to anyone though. He's a vegan and a conservationist, and has lived in some right shit holes whilst trying to make the world a better place for some sanctimonious twats who don't give a fuck and take their fat waddling arses and offspring out for a day leaving their litter everywhere Fair play to him. I cut down on meat, I recycle and I don't buy plastic, but I couldn't do it to that extent. Last time I went to Warrington (for example) I couldn't believe how much litter there was. Just taking a stroll to the local ASDA it was everywhere in the hedges and on the sides of the street. Cans, bottles, crisp packets, fag packets, etc... and this was walking through what would be considered one of the nicer suburban areas. One thing the UK should adopt (like other Westernised European countries) is getting cash back for returning crates and empty bottles to the supermarket. That'll soon clear up half the litter you see lying around. You'd likely have kids clearing it up just to get the extra pocket money. Agree, 2 trips to Germany in the last few weeks and it's mostly spotless because of the returns scheme. My Mrs runs our village litter picking team, we collect 1 day a month and always get about 10 bin bags, wankers that litter need their hands chopping off
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Post by bathstoke on Aug 14, 2019 7:20:16 GMT
My eldest son has said for a few years he doesn't want children as there's too many people in the world. He doesn't preach it to anyone though. He's a vegan and a conservationist, and has lived in some right shit holes whilst trying to make the world a better place for some sanctimonious twats who don't give a fuck and take their fat waddling arses and offspring out for a day leaving their litter everywhere Fair play to him. I cut down on meat, I recycle and I don't buy plastic, but I couldn't do it to that extent. Last time I went to Warrington (for example) I couldn't believe how much litter there was. Just taking a stroll to the local ASDA it was everywhere in the hedges and on the sides of the street. Cans, bottles, crisp packets, fag packets, etc... and this was walking through what would be considered one of the nicer suburban areas. One thing the UK should adopt (like other Westernised European countries) is getting cash back for returning crates and empty bottles to the supermarket. That'll soon clear up half the litter you see lying around. You'd likely have kids clearing it up just to get the extra pocket money. If people can’t stop littering, what else could you teach them in terms of environmentalism. Not dropping litter is a fundamental.
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Post by foster on Aug 14, 2019 7:29:29 GMT
Fair play to him. I cut down on meat, I recycle and I don't buy plastic, but I couldn't do it to that extent. Last time I went to Warrington (for example) I couldn't believe how much litter there was. Just taking a stroll to the local ASDA it was everywhere in the hedges and on the sides of the street. Cans, bottles, crisp packets, fag packets, etc... and this was walking through what would be considered one of the nicer suburban areas. One thing the UK should adopt (like other Westernised European countries) is getting cash back for returning crates and empty bottles to the supermarket. That'll soon clear up half the litter you see lying around. You'd likely have kids clearing it up just to get the extra pocket money. Agree, 2 trips to Germany in the last few weeks and it's mostly spotless because of the returns scheme. My Mrs runs our village litter picking team, we collect 1 day a month and always get about 10 bin bags, wankers that litter need their hands chopping off I actually wanted to use Germany as an example but didn't want to be accused of being Pro-EU But I do that here in Belgium as well. Crates get you about 3.50 EUR, a standard beer bottle around 10 cents and a large 1.5ltr bottle is 20 cents. If they launched that in the UK the glass litter would be mostly gone within a week. It's one of those things that's so simple and seemingly so difficult to adopt. I don't get it.
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Post by foster on Aug 14, 2019 7:35:57 GMT
Fair play to him. I cut down on meat, I recycle and I don't buy plastic, but I couldn't do it to that extent. Last time I went to Warrington (for example) I couldn't believe how much litter there was. Just taking a stroll to the local ASDA it was everywhere in the hedges and on the sides of the street. Cans, bottles, crisp packets, fag packets, etc... and this was walking through what would be considered one of the nicer suburban areas. One thing the UK should adopt (like other Westernised European countries) is getting cash back for returning crates and empty bottles to the supermarket. That'll soon clear up half the litter you see lying around. You'd likely have kids clearing it up just to get the extra pocket money. If people can’t stop littering, what else could you teach them in terms of environmentalism. Not dropping litter is a fundamental. This is where shaming comes into effect. On the spot fines and making them pick up their litter. Fines for people leaving Chewing gum, Litter or Dogshit where they're not supposed to be. If they want they can trade their fines for one hour litter picking or sorting. Green enforcers (or whatever you want to call them) could easily be paid for by fines themselves and local council tax.
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Post by bathstoke on Aug 14, 2019 7:45:44 GMT
If people can’t stop littering, what else could you teach them in terms of environmentalism. Not dropping litter is a fundamental. This is where shaming comes into effect. On the spot fines and making them pick up their litter. Fines for people leaving Chewing gum, Litter or Dogshit where they're not supposed to be. If they want they can trade their fines for one hour litter picking or sorting. Green enforcers (or whatever you want to call them) could easily be paid for by fines themselves and local council tax. My point is that if you don’t get that littering is a problem at a personal level, then you’re not going to respect the finer points of ecological
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Post by felonious on Aug 14, 2019 7:52:50 GMT
Agree, 2 trips to Germany in the last few weeks and it's mostly spotless because of the returns scheme. My Mrs runs our village litter picking team, we collect 1 day a month and always get about 10 bin bags, wankers that litter need their hands chopping off I actually wanted to use Germany as an example but didn't want to be accused of being Pro-EU
But I do that here in Belgium as well. Crates get you about 3.50 EUR, a standard beer bottle around 10 cents and a large 1.5ltr bottle is 20 cents. If they launched that in the UK the glass litter would be mostly gone within a week. It's one of those things that's so simple and seemingly so difficult to adopt. I don't get it. It's ok like the UK, Germany is also a European country.
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Post by foster on Aug 14, 2019 12:37:27 GMT
I actually wanted to use Germany as an example but didn't want to be accused of being Pro-EU
But I do that here in Belgium as well. Crates get you about 3.50 EUR, a standard beer bottle around 10 cents and a large 1.5ltr bottle is 20 cents. If they launched that in the UK the glass litter would be mostly gone within a week. It's one of those things that's so simple and seemingly so difficult to adopt. I don't get it. It's ok like the UK, Germany is also a European country. I know. That's why I mentioned European countries. Some people (not yourselves) get touchy when anyone uses Germany or France in any positive context.
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Post by foster on Aug 14, 2019 12:44:31 GMT
This is where shaming comes into effect. On the spot fines and making them pick up their litter. Fines for people leaving Chewing gum, Litter or Dogshit where they're not supposed to be. If they want they can trade their fines for one hour litter picking or sorting. Green enforcers (or whatever you want to call them) could easily be paid for by fines themselves and local council tax. My point is that if you don’t get that littering is a problem at a personal level, then you’re not going to respect the finer points of ecological You're right. Some people won't get it on a personal level. So perhaps they also need to be educated as well. Give them a fine, make them pick litter, make them recycle, make them take a mandatory course in basic environmental skills. If that doesn't work then at least they may amend their behavior though the implementation of steeper fines / punishments for repeat offences.
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Post by felonious on Aug 14, 2019 12:45:25 GMT
It's ok like the UK, Germany is also a European country. I know. That's why I mentioned European countries. Some people (not yourselves) get touchy when anyone uses Germany or France in any positive context. Oh I know you know. It's just that a lot of Remainers out there don't understand the difference between Europe and the EU so it's always worth repeating and repeating and repeating.
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Post by foster on Aug 14, 2019 12:52:10 GMT
I know. That's why I mentioned European countries. Some people (not yourselves) get touchy when anyone uses Germany or France in any positive context. Oh I know you know. It's just that a lot of Remainers out there don't understand the difference between Europe and the EU so it's always worth repeating and repeating and repeating. To be honest, I know that you knew that I know. I just wanted to get the last word in. My dad actually voted leave and didn't seem to grasp that once out of the EU he'd need to queue in the non-EU (All other passports) section of passport control. I told him that the UK wouldn't be in the EU and he said "What! The UK is in Europe so of course i can go in the EU side!"
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Post by trickydicky73 on Aug 14, 2019 13:22:37 GMT
This is where shaming comes into effect. On the spot fines and making them pick up their litter. Fines for people leaving Chewing gum, Litter or Dogshit where they're not supposed to be. If they want they can trade their fines for one hour litter picking or sorting. Green enforcers (or whatever you want to call them) could easily be paid for by fines themselves and local council tax. My point is that if you don’t get that littering is a problem at a personal level, then you’re not going to respect the finer points of ecological I have seen them up Hanley, just dropping fag packets etc after they have finished them. There are bins everywhere!
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Post by felonious on Aug 14, 2019 13:37:00 GMT
Oh I know you know. It's just that a lot of Remainers out there don't understand the difference between Europe and the EU so it's always worth repeating and repeating and repeating. To be honest, I know that you knew that I know. I just wanted to get the last word in. My dad actually voted leave and didn't seem to grasp that once out of the EU he'd need to queue in the non-EU (All other passports) section of passport control. I told him that the UK wouldn't be in the EU and he said "What! The UK is in Europe so of course i can go in the EU side!" It's funny isn't it the misinformation that goes around. My son and daughter both voted Remain and one of the main issues for her was being able to work in Europe. She's been there the last two years and is encouraged by the Russians, Ukranians, Brazilians, Mexican, etc who've told her they have no probems. The unproblematic two month stint in China at the end of last year seemed to ease the all that scaremongering she been subjected to as well.
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Post by wagsastokie on Aug 14, 2019 13:39:03 GMT
Agree, 2 trips to Germany in the last few weeks and it's mostly spotless because of the returns scheme. My Mrs runs our village litter picking team, we collect 1 day a month and always get about 10 bin bags, wankers that litter need their hands chopping off I actually wanted to use Germany as an example but didn't want to be accused of being Pro-EU But I do that here in Belgium as well. Crates get you about 3.50 EUR, a standard beer bottle around 10 cents and a large 1.5ltr bottle is 20 cents. If they launched that in the UK the glass litter would be mostly gone within a week. It's one of those things that's so simple and seemingly so difficult to adopt. I don't get it. Ah the good old days short of the odd pence or two over the the back wall of the local pub few empties couple of days later bring them back receive the deposits and yes you can go to the match Not that I condone such behaviour
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Post by foster on Aug 14, 2019 13:42:15 GMT
I actually wanted to use Germany as an example but didn't want to be accused of being Pro-EU But I do that here in Belgium as well. Crates get you about 3.50 EUR, a standard beer bottle around 10 cents and a large 1.5ltr bottle is 20 cents. If they launched that in the UK the glass litter would be mostly gone within a week. It's one of those things that's so simple and seemingly so difficult to adopt. I don't get it. Ah the good old days short of the odd pence or two over the the back wall of the local pub few empties couple of days later bring them back receive the deposits and yes you can go to the match Not that I condone such behaviour Don't see what's not to condone there. The bottles get taken back don't they
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2019 13:48:57 GMT
Best way to save the environment is to change society from exponential growth focus to a sustainable focus.
It is not the fault of an individual, it is the way our capitalist society works. Expand and grow infinitely. That doesn't work on a planet with finite resources and a finite range of temperatures that can sustain human civilisation.
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Post by mattador78 on Aug 14, 2019 18:15:17 GMT
My eldest son has said for a few years he doesn't want children as there's too many people in the world. He doesn't preach it to anyone though. He's a vegan and a conservationist, and has lived in some right shit holes whilst trying to make the world a better place for some sanctimonious twats who don't give a fuck and take their fat waddling arses and offspring out for a day leaving their litter everywhere Fair play to him. I cut down on meat, I recycle and I don't buy plastic, but I couldn't do it to that extent. Last time I went to Warrington (for example) I couldn't believe how much litter there was. Just taking a stroll to the local ASDA it was everywhere in the hedges and on the sides of the street. Cans, bottles, crisp packets, fag packets, etc... and this was walking through what would be considered one of the nicer suburban areas. One thing the UK should adopt (like other Westernised European countries) is getting cash back for returning crates and empty bottles to the supermarket. That'll soon clear up half the litter you see lying around. You'd likely have kids clearing it up just to get the extra pocket money. Return of the pop man 👍
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