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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 1, 2019 8:18:39 GMT
Well if you look back at what actually happened, quite clearly no, no it couldn’t. Which era are we talking about? I believe TP did very well for Plymouth too with a low budget, and even if Coates supported him with loan signings I don't think he spent a lot of money in the two first seasons after coming back.  We were one of the biggest spenders in the Championship the season we were promoted. |
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Post by march4 on Sept 1, 2019 8:24:24 GMT
What does it take for people to understand this is the safest option to stay up. It might not look beautiful, but we'll at least stay up. Anybody in their right mind can see NJ isn't the answer now! What does it take for some people to understand that he is not the answer? What does it take for some people to realise that this is the attitude that has caused this crisis? Scrap the process and bring back TP. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 8:24:49 GMT
Depends if you are looking for a short team or long term appointment. I’m not sure giving another manager a 5 year contract is the best idea right now. Hughton would also want a huge budget. The state we are in a short term appointment to stabilise this mess and rebuild our core wouldn’t be a bad option. We need to work out as well which of our players can turn themselves around. Really take stock of the issues we have as a club and address them. The problem is that ‘short-term’ can lead to ‘long-term’. We don’t have to give anyone a long contract but we equally need to try and futureproof ourselves a little in terms of vision. Would Hughton need a big budget? Don’t think he immediately had one at Brighton when he went there? Hughton must be the most sought after free manager out there. He doesn’t need a higher transfer budget no but I’d assume would want one at some stage which we can’t no longer off and also would want a long contract. I’m not saying any of this will happen. I’m just pointing out the difference between the two. Short term would only turn to long term if it was working. |
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Post by zerps on Sept 1, 2019 8:25:56 GMT
This is the best pulis thread since the last one was created 10 minutes ago.
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 1, 2019 8:26:38 GMT
I believe TP did very well for Plymouth too with a low budget, and even if Coates supported him with loan signings I don't think he spent a lot of money in the two first seasons after coming back. We were one of the biggest spenders in the Championship the season we were promoted. In his first season after coming back he saved us from going down, we beat Reading in the last game of the season to make sure we stayed up. It didn't matter actually as the teams below us lost anyway, but TP again showed he could get the needed result to make sure.  |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 1, 2019 8:28:24 GMT
We were one of the biggest spenders in the Championship the season we were promoted. In his first season after coming back he saved us from going down, we beat Reading in the last game of the season to make sure we stayed up. It didn't matter actually as the teams below us lost anyway, but TP again showed he could get the needed result to make sure. That’s not what we’re talking about though is it? Even then he was backed by a previously parsimonious Icelandic board to bring in the players to keep us up. |
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Post by ursemboys on Sept 1, 2019 8:32:07 GMT
What does it take for people to understand this is the safest option to stay up. It might not look beautiful, but we'll at least stay up. Anybody in their right mind can see NJ isn't the answer now! No never fuck off Pulis fucking despicable man stay away from our club. |
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Post by TheProletarian on Sept 1, 2019 8:32:53 GMT
I know NJ isnt the answer, tbh I would look forward to the club having an identity with Tony.
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Post by mrred on Sept 1, 2019 8:36:29 GMT
He is a temporary fix because once / if we were safe, we'd plod along with the same old extinct football and want him gone. I remember distinctly how bad it was during his last few years here and the threads about him on other fan forums during his time there. His football doesn't belong in this era and I don't ever want to see us go back and be branded as 'that' team. Fair enough, it's just not my recollection of his period in charge. The last season was dreadful, before that I had no issue. He was brilliant at Palace, and did a good job at WBA. He allowed me some of the single best moments in my Stoke supporting life. But again, I wouldn't want him back. He couldn't strike lightening twice like he did and he's proven at each club since- his football is getting worse as each year goes on. |
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Post by wuzza on Sept 1, 2019 9:39:44 GMT
Although the situation screams out for a man of TPs skill and calibre I doubt the club or he would take the step. We need someone in his image and I really don’t think that that is Hughton. Why not? Both are conservative, safety-first managers? Just a feeling that he is a bloke that’s ridden his luck - probably totally irrational and wrong but there we go. With regard TP I’m not sure how you can call any manager willing to run with the mercurial talent of Ricky Fuller as ‘safety first’ but that’s an argument for years ago. |
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 1, 2019 9:59:00 GMT
In his first season after coming back he saved us from going down, we beat Reading in the last game of the season to make sure we stayed up. It didn't matter actually as the teams below us lost anyway, but TP again showed he could get the needed result to make sure. That’s not what we’re talking about though is it? Even then he was backed by a previously parsimonious Icelandic board to bring in the players to keep us up. What about Plymouth then when he took them to the top half of the table? Was he heavily backed there as well? |
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 1, 2019 10:00:40 GMT
What does it take for people to understand this is the safest option to stay up. It might not look beautiful, but we'll at least stay up. Anybody in their right mind can see NJ isn't the answer now! No never fuck off Pulis fucking despicable man stay away from our club. Yes, TP was really bad for Stoke! I hope you see the irony here!  |
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Post by RAF on Sept 1, 2019 10:10:09 GMT
He is a temporary fix because once / if we were safe, we'd plod along with the same old extinct football and want him gone. I remember distinctly how bad it was during his last few years here and the threads about him on other fan forums during his time there. His football doesn't belong in this era and I don't ever want to see us go back and be branded as 'that' team. Fair enough, it's just not my recollection of his period in charge. The last season was dreadful, before that I had no issue. He was brilliant at Palace, and did a good job at WBA. Well yeah if you call a good job actually effectively getting them relegated. H |
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Post by elystokie on Sept 1, 2019 11:30:18 GMT
We were one of the biggest spenders in the Championship the season we were promoted. In his first season after coming back he saved us from going down, we beat Reading in the last game of the season to make sure we stayed up. It didn't matter actually as the teams below us lost anyway, but TP again showed he could get the needed result to make sure. I can't find the week by week league tables for that season, which was the 2002/03 season. However I'm pretty sure that Cotterill had the same squad clear of the relegation zone and the relegation fight that 'Tone' was successful in was one he himself got us into. We didn't win a game for his first NINE fixtures in charge and also lost 6-0 to Notts Forest. |
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Post by ursemboys on Sept 1, 2019 11:41:49 GMT
No never fuck off Pulis fucking despicable man stay away from our club. Yes, TP was really bad for Stoke! I hope you see the irony here! He was and he got very well paid for it'd we need him or want him NO |
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 1, 2019 11:55:45 GMT
Yes, TP was really bad for Stoke! I hope you see the irony here! He was and he got very well paid for it'd we need him or want him NOTony's reign at Stoke was probably the best time being a Stoke supporter for 30 years.  |
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Post by ursemboys on Sept 1, 2019 12:13:32 GMT
He was and he got very well paid for it'd we need him or want him NOTony's reign at Stoke was probably the best time being a Stoke supporter for 30 years. Best football was under Hughes there is no doubt about it.but when you put it down to the last 30 years there where some good times.but for me Durban and Lou where the best times,i did see the 72 onwards but was too young to take it all in |
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