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Joe Allen
Aug 10, 2019 19:17:09 GMT
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Post by sd22 on Aug 10, 2019 19:17:09 GMT
He’s been absolutely abysmal these first two games. So has Clucas. He’ll never be dropped unless injured though. I don't think clucas has been too bad. Last season I hated clucas. Pre season and these last two games, he’s been putting his all into the game and has looked decent. The best all fit midfield in this diamond for me should be woods clucas etebo and Powell. Although on last weeks and today’s performance once gets a special mention, looks a different player!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2019 19:19:18 GMT
Allen along with Butland are what I am now considering to be part of the problem.
Premiership players that just don’t fit into our team any longer.
Allen is probably sitting on a juicy contract and Butland just thinks of his England place which is no good to us.
Neither are part of team harmony?
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Joe Allen
Aug 10, 2019 19:24:12 GMT
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Aug 10, 2019 19:24:12 GMT
Allen along with Butland are what I am now considering to be part of the problem. Premiership players that just don’t fit into our team any longer. Allen is probably sitting on a juicy contract and Butland just thinks of his England place which is no good to us. Neither are part of team harmony? I think just because he’s a nice guy and not an idiot has masked the fact that he’s been absolutely dire for a long long time now. The midfield doesn’t retain any balance with him in it whatsoever and never has.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2019 20:02:52 GMT
From what I've seen of Allen, albeit on the tele, he runs round like a headless chicken, not attaining very much. Needs dropping from what I see on here. Either that or telling to stay in his supposed position!
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Post by dastokie on Aug 10, 2019 20:15:44 GMT
New song for Joe too bread of heaven tune.
Joe Allen Joe Allen, Leave him out we cant take it anymore anymore, We can't take it anymore.
Headless chicken headless chicken, Never looks like he will score. Never looks like he will score,
Joe Allen Joe Allen, His passing is really piss poor.really piss poor, how the f**k will we ever score,
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Post by deadwait on Aug 10, 2019 20:22:55 GMT
If you all think Joe Allen is the problem, you are sadly wrong.
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Joe Allen
Aug 10, 2019 20:39:32 GMT
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Post by steewee on Aug 10, 2019 20:39:32 GMT
I can't ever remember any positivity with Joe Allen. To me he's like a school yard player with boundless energy but just doesn't integrate or offer much else! I just would not miss him!
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Joe Allen
Aug 10, 2019 20:41:43 GMT
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Post by LankyPotter on Aug 10, 2019 20:41:43 GMT
When Peter comes back it won’t be Allen that’s getting dropped either. Every manager seems to love him because he runs hard. And runs erratically
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Joe Allen
Aug 10, 2019 20:42:55 GMT
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Aug 10, 2019 20:42:55 GMT
He was doing well on the right of midfield why change it?
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Aug 10, 2019 21:19:05 GMT
He's either shite or isn't a big loss of he's taken out of the team. Not great for our highest paid player.
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Post by skelman on Aug 10, 2019 21:29:56 GMT
Decent first half then became insignificant like Ince in the 2nd.
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Joe Allen
Aug 10, 2019 22:04:17 GMT
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Aug 10, 2019 22:04:17 GMT
If you all think Joe Allen is the problem, you are sadly wrong. He is a problem. One that could be easily solved or assessed by simply dropping him for a few games. I don’t get why he gets a free pass for being consistently bad just because some others might happen to be worse?
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Post by maine on Aug 10, 2019 22:07:34 GMT
But he's not 'consistently bad'. At his very worst he's consistently competent.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 10, 2019 22:08:37 GMT
But he's not 'consistently bad'. At his very worst he's consistently competent. He’s fucking awful.
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Joe Allen
Aug 10, 2019 22:09:54 GMT
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Post by LankyPotter on Aug 10, 2019 22:09:54 GMT
If you all think Joe Allen is the problem, you are sadly wrong. Im genuinely interested, what do you think he adds to the side?
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Post by owdestokie2 on Aug 10, 2019 22:17:16 GMT
ABSOLUTE DROSS.....Again! Surprise, Surprise Spit. Out of interest did you go to the match today, watch a stream or simply read the Oatcake? Simply interested in understanding the context, informed views of supporters.
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Post by s8to on Aug 10, 2019 22:20:25 GMT
Was there.. and sober today! So feeling qualified to talk..
Allen played well till Woods taken off.. Clucas put in a shift as well.. sorry I dont buy this Allen is rubbish.. the problem is not (and for the past 3 years) been the individuals.. it's the collective team effort. Whether team formation, tactics or apathy
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Joe Allen
Aug 10, 2019 22:22:37 GMT
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Post by LankyPotter on Aug 10, 2019 22:22:37 GMT
Was there.. and sober today! So feeling qualified to talk.. Allen played well till Woods taken off.. Clucas put in a shift as well.. sorry I dont buy this Allen is rubbish.. the problem is not (and for the past 3 years) been the individuals.. it's the collective team effort. Whether team formation, tactics or apathy What does Joe Allen bring to this team mate? Not being an arse, im genuinely intrigued.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Aug 10, 2019 22:23:36 GMT
But he's not 'consistently bad'. At his very worst he's consistently competent. He’s fucking awful. Your qualified opinion and constructive post is appreciated (not). Over a 104,000 and counting.
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Joe Allen
Aug 10, 2019 22:25:55 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 10, 2019 22:25:55 GMT
Your qualified opinion and constructive post is appreciated (not). Over a 104,000 and counting. The bloke is a liability. More and more are seeing it. Which is excellent.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Aug 10, 2019 22:30:02 GMT
Was there.. and sober today! So feeling qualified to talk.. Allen played well till Woods taken off.. Clucas put in a shift as well.. sorry I dont buy this Allen is rubbish.. the problem is not (and for the past 3 years) been the individuals.. it's the collective team effort. Whether team formation, tactics or apathy What does Joe Allen bring to this team mate? Not being an arse, im genuinely intrigued. Can I suggest you seek the views of professional managers and coaches who have considered his abilities to be adequate to play professional football at different league and international levels.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Aug 10, 2019 22:30:36 GMT
But he's not 'consistently bad'. At his very worst he's consistently competent. He refuses to press properly, can’t play line breaking passes, can’t power his way through like Etebo, has a bad touch and drifts out of position. Look at the second goal today, he’s standing 3 metres thinking he’s pressing and he’s not, you have to get touch tight and block the pass and expect your mate to pick up the recipient if it gets though. As is he gets caught in no man’s land.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 10, 2019 22:31:04 GMT
What does Joe Allen bring to this team mate? Not being an arse, im genuinely intrigued. Can I suggest you seek the views of professional managers and coaches who have considered his abilities to be adequate to play professional football at different league and international levels. 3 out of the 4 most recent at club level have been sacked. Good argument.
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Joe Allen
Aug 10, 2019 22:33:26 GMT
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Post by LankyPotter on Aug 10, 2019 22:33:26 GMT
What does Joe Allen bring to this team mate? Not being an arse, im genuinely intrigued. Can I suggest you seek the views of professional managers and coaches who have considered his abilities to be adequate to play professional football at different league and international levels. If i get the chance to ask them I will......but for now, what do you think he offers our football club?
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Joe Allen
Aug 10, 2019 22:33:37 GMT
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Aug 10, 2019 22:33:37 GMT
What does Joe Allen bring to this team mate? Not being an arse, im genuinely intrigued. Can I suggest you seek the views of professional managers and coaches who have considered his abilities to be adequate to play professional football at different league and international levels. The fact no one from the PL has come in for him, despite him allegedly being one of our best players speaks very loud volumes for me. International performance isn’t directly comparable to club football either, way too many variables that don’t carry either way.
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Joe Allen
Aug 10, 2019 22:37:30 GMT
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Post by LankyPotter on Aug 10, 2019 22:37:30 GMT
But he's not 'consistently bad'. At his very worst he's consistently competent. He refuses to press properly, can’t play line breaking passes, can’t power his way through like Etebo, has a bad touch and drifts out of position. Look at the second goal today, he’s standing 3 metres thinking he’s pressing and he’s not, you have to get touch tight and block the pass and expect your mate to pick up the recipient if it gets though. As is he gets caught in no man’s land. I would add that he hides from receiving the ball (especially last week against QPR) and this is exactly what i see, the man is killing us.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Aug 10, 2019 22:39:46 GMT
Your qualified opinion and constructive post is appreciated (not). Over a 104,000 and counting. The bloke is a liability. More and more are seeing it. Which is excellent. More and more? You’re a classical exponent of throwing shit and hope some sticks. Allen has to his credit convinced professional managers and coaches at all levels to “continually” pick him at league and international level. Minds might persuaded change (not) if they read the Oatcake, alternatively their ribs may ache with laughter No doubt you will respond. The Guinness Book of Records beckons
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Joe Allen
Aug 10, 2019 22:42:28 GMT
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Post by LankyPotter on Aug 10, 2019 22:42:28 GMT
The bloke is a liability. More and more are seeing it. Which is excellent. More and more? You’re a classical exponent of throwing shit and hope some sticks. Allen has to his credit convinced professional managers and coaches at all levels to “continually” pick him at league and international level. Minds might persuaded change (not) if they read the Oatcake, alternatively their ribs may ache with laughter No doubt you will respond. The Guinness Book of Records beckons But what does he offer?
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Joe Allen
Aug 10, 2019 22:43:19 GMT
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Post by StokeTudoGuy on Aug 10, 2019 22:43:19 GMT
We won’t be a successful side with Clucas & Joe Allen as your central midfielders. They offer very little in attack or defence, pretty much nothing players. We need some athleticism & drive from the middle of the park. It’s absolutely vital that we get Etebo in this team. Clucas was decent today and I’m not particularly a fan of his. He looked interested and involved. His forward runs could have been game changing if other players had used him as an outlet more.
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Joe Allen
Aug 10, 2019 22:43:53 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 10, 2019 22:43:53 GMT
The bloke is a liability. More and more are seeing it. Which is excellent. More and more? You’re a classical exponent of throwing shit and hope some sticks. Allen has to his credit convinced professional managers and coaches at all levels to “continually” pick him at league and international level. Minds might persuaded change (not) if they read the Oatcake, alternatively their ribs may ache with laughter No doubt you will respond. The Guinness Book of Records beckons I forget how good the midfield have been since he signed.....oh no they’ve been awol.
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