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Post by ursemboys on Aug 10, 2019 20:35:33 GMT
Seems to me that the reason why they have not given him a big load of cash to spend is that they are seriously concerned about his ability. I think maybe a David Moyes/Sam Allardyce type of manager is whats needed, and a decent spend in January. David Moyes/Sam Allardyce,your taking the piss now
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Post by bornscfcdiescfc on Aug 10, 2019 20:36:57 GMT
No. He deserves better than people like you feel free to back him up...go on .. I was brave in my thread now be brave and give us your point in keeping him....reply or shut up..this is about the best for SCFC and what fans want..
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Jones out
Aug 10, 2019 20:37:10 GMT
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Post by stokiekm on Aug 10, 2019 20:37:10 GMT
No. He deserves better than people like you feel free to back him up...go on .. yaaaaawn
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Jones out
Aug 10, 2019 20:37:56 GMT
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Post by kaney78 on Aug 10, 2019 20:37:56 GMT
Quite frankly enough is enough.His record is abysmal his formations are abysmal playing McClean at LB is abysmal We deserve better He has to go. No one can be of sound mind and want him to stay..3 wins in 23 matches...its a joke I don't think the players are good enough myself.we had a hatful of chances today and couldn't put them away.
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Post by bornscfcdiescfc on Aug 10, 2019 20:39:17 GMT
feel free to back him up...go on .. yaaaaawn yeh go bed
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Post by leoncort on Aug 10, 2019 20:41:57 GMT
People being so adamant Jones will get it right is baffling. The stats don't lie, it's been 20+ games and a preseason, a preseason in which he's been backed fully by the owners.
These two games were winnable, 3 points was a minimum requirement given the next few games. Pressure is already mounting and I fear it will ramp up considerably after the derby game.
The cup comes at a good time for us, let's play with freedom and get some confidence in the squad.
Play Davies on Tuesday and if it goes well he has to play Saturday. Both of these games pan out differently if our keeper doesn't gift a goal in the first half, it got the crowd up st Charlton today and killed the atmosphere against QPR.
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Post by smallthorner on Aug 10, 2019 20:42:10 GMT
I really don’t know where I sit on this one. I don’t want him gone yet, that’d be mental but the alarm can’t be far off sounding in the boardroom. It’s so difficult. On the one hand I want to say stick with what we did today and we’ll end up winning more than we’ll lose but we’re in that much of a rut, that could well be another few games, by which point we’re all panicking that our season is fucked already. There are plenty more points to claw back and it’d be stupid to suggest we can’t still do something, but there’s still something clearly not right. It’s a horrible cycle we’re in. Playing well and losing is as bad as it gets for confidence. The players are quite clearly committed but we are so weak it’s frightening. Crumbling at teams like Charlton is unforgivable, really. There are much, much sterner tests to face than the two we’ve already faced and lost. I want to think positively and tell everyone to hold their nerve whilst we work this out but I’m not confident it can be done. I don’t know if a change in manager would have any effect but I still maintain this squad is one of the best in the league. Fuck knows, basically. How long do you give it? Good post. And I think that's where most sensible people sit at the moment. That said. If we get dicked Saturday I'd sack him 😝😊
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Post by iglugluk on Aug 10, 2019 20:45:17 GMT
In response to the thread title I think, personally, that he should be given another few games although the form we've exhibited since he arrived simply cannot be allowed to last too long. Give him till the bank holiday that's four games against championship opponents no wins and he is gone. Yes I agree.. in fact I said exactly that number earlier
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Post by bornscfcdiescfc on Aug 10, 2019 20:46:16 GMT
I want whats best for SCFC but cannot see it coming from NJ...I don't care who it is but as of today he has an awful record
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Post by serpico on Aug 10, 2019 20:47:20 GMT
I’m a jones skeptic but Coates isn’t going to sack him after 2 games, and rightly so, it would be madness to let him sign a bunch of new players then sack him so early, he has to be given at least 10 games before considering wielding the dreaded axe.
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Post by bornscfcdiescfc on Aug 10, 2019 20:52:41 GMT
I’m a jones skeptic but Coates isn’t going to sack him after 2 games, and rightly so, it would be madness to let him sign a bunch of new players then sack him so early, he has to be given at least 10 games before considering wielding the dreaded axe. 2 games ffs its 3 wins out of 23
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Post by bornscfcdiescfc on Aug 10, 2019 20:53:57 GMT
I really don’t know where I sit on this one. I don’t want him gone yet, that’d be mental but the alarm can’t be far off sounding in the boardroom. It’s so difficult. On the one hand I want to say stick with what we did today and we’ll end up winning more than we’ll lose but we’re in that much of a rut, that could well be another few games, by which point we’re all panicking that our season is fucked already. There are plenty more points to claw back and it’d be stupid to suggest we can’t still do something, but there’s still something clearly not right. It’s a horrible cycle we’re in. Playing well and losing is as bad as it gets for confidence. The players are quite clearly committed but we are so weak it’s frightening. Crumbling at teams like Charlton is unforgivable, really. There are much, much sterner tests to face than the two we’ve already faced and lost. I want to think positively and tell everyone to hold their nerve whilst we work this out but I’m not confident it can be done. I don’t know if a change in manager would have any effect but I still maintain this squad is one of the best in the league. Fuck knows, basically. How long do you give it? Good post. And I think that's where most sensible people sit at the moment. That said. If we get dicked Saturday I'd sack him 😝😊 sensible you my f arse
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Post by robrigo on Aug 10, 2019 20:56:05 GMT
I want Jones to succeed. Desperately. Because if he does then Stoke City will be doing well again. He’s been allowed to bring in 10 of his own players and they must be given time to form a coherent unit under the guidance of the manager that brought them to the club.
However, the stats don’t lie. It’s all about results as we know, and at the moment he’s not getting them. He is running out of time. It depends on when the fans patience runs out. The club desperately needs a win.
This downward trajectory is now beyond alarming and we have to halt the slide. I hope to God, Jones is the man to do it. The alternative is pretty unthinkable.
Losing at Stoke has become a habit. We have to break that habit. Quickly.
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Post by serpico on Aug 10, 2019 20:57:07 GMT
I’m a jones skeptic but Coates isn’t going to sack him after 2 games, and rightly so, it would be madness to let him sign a bunch of new players then sack him so early, he has to be given at least 10 games before considering wielding the dreaded axe. 2 games ffs its 3 wins out of 23 2 games with the team/squad of his making, he’s just signed a number of new players.
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Post by dadger on Aug 10, 2019 20:59:04 GMT
Just get rid he us clueless absolute joke worst manager in clubs history sack the twat now I take it you wasn’t around when Chris kamara was manager then
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Post by adamsson on Aug 10, 2019 21:02:13 GMT
I’m a jones skeptic but Coates isn’t going to sack him after 2 games, and rightly so, it would be madness to let him sign a bunch of new players then sack him so early, he has to be given at least 10 games before considering wielding the dreaded axe. It's 23 games not 2 games
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Jones out
Aug 10, 2019 21:10:50 GMT
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Post by StokeTudoGuy on Aug 10, 2019 21:10:50 GMT
You knicker wetting bastards need to get real. That’s the best we’ve played for many, many months if our Strikers could hit a barn door we’d have been out of sight after 50 minutes. Today’s result was probably the least Jones fault out of all the games he’s had in charge. To be fair mate he bought those strikers. Gregory is going to be scoring a few this season.... I have little to no doubt.
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Post by serpico on Aug 10, 2019 21:17:20 GMT
I’m a jones skeptic but Coates isn’t going to sack him after 2 games, and rightly so, it would be madness to let him sign a bunch of new players then sack him so early, he has to be given at least 10 games before considering wielding the dreaded axe. It's 23 games not 2 games True, but it’s two games into a new season with a squad he now fully owns, you don’t let a manager go through a pre season, sign a number of new players then sack him after 3 hours of football!
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Post by bornscfcdiescfc on Aug 10, 2019 21:21:53 GMT
I want Jones to succeed. Desperately. Because if he does then Stoke City will be doing well again. He’s been allowed to bring in 10 of his own players and they must be given time to form a coherent unit under the guidance of the manager that brought them to the club. However, the stats don’t lie. It’s all about results as we know, and at the moment he’s not getting them. He is running out of time. It depends on when the fans patience runs out. The club desperately needs a win. This downward trajectory is now beyond alarming and we have to halt the slide. I hope to God, Jones is the man to do it. The alternative is pretty unthinkable. Losing at Stoke has become a habit. We have to break that habit. Quickly. I know I started the thread but have to admit I think the above is all we want...but he has had enough time..or ok next 4 games at least 2 wins
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Aug 10, 2019 21:46:19 GMT
Can't say too much but I've heard we're looking to get rid of Jones if we lose on Tuesday we're we're hoping to get Sheikhmomo and Bayernoatcake in as his replacement.
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Post by spikey2972 on Aug 10, 2019 21:51:07 GMT
Anybody but this excuse for a manager. He is way out of his depth and the sooner he goes the better. I am not an expert but surely there is somebody out there who can do something with this group of players.
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Post by BuckRogers on Aug 10, 2019 22:08:17 GMT
I want whats best for SCFC but cannot see it coming from NJ...I don't care who it is but as of today he has an awful record Mate hang your knickers out ,they must be soaking wet. Get a grip. New players ,new season. Got give him a few months, then see where we are.
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Post by webbyscfc on Aug 10, 2019 22:26:45 GMT
Mclean didn’t even play you f**king weapon!!!! Go and take your head for a wobble, along with every dozy p***k that is calling for Jones head. No let us hear why you think he is the right manager with his crap record...go on.. If you were watching today, which you obviously weren’t as you thought McLean was playing, you would have at least seen a bit of progression. I am sure he is pissed off with himself for bringing off woods and he will learn from that. The last thing whoever our manager is needs, is morons like yourself who cannot wait to jump on their back and f**king moan. Play like that today for the rest of the season and we will be up there. Just don’t be a moron and enjoy the ride
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Aug 10, 2019 22:30:14 GMT
Time for cool heads and strong leadership ( I think we really misses Ryan actually ) club need to be very clear the backing for Jones is unequivocal , he has embarked on long term transition and the course is set and not for turning , will settle down jones and the players
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Jones out
Aug 10, 2019 22:30:43 GMT
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Post by webby137 on Aug 10, 2019 22:30:43 GMT
Just look at Norwich's journey from and back to the premier league, sometimes the only way is to go back, refresh the team and bring through some up and coming stars, no one signing is going to save us.
I cant see that we can through so many managers with the same result that the manager is 100% to blame, they have all had flaws, I think we are struggling with Jones in that everybody knows how and what our game plan is trying to be, ie the diamond; teams know how to pick us apart and we don't even know how to play it! He's showing his cards to everybody with out even looking at them first!?
I don't think we will go down and this negative talk so early, although understandable frustrating is a bit premature
Give it 10 games and if we have less than 10 points then we will know where we are going, but it changing the manager really going to help, not from previous experience?!
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Post by numberounominion on Aug 10, 2019 22:34:44 GMT
Time for cool heads and strong leadership ( I think we really misses Ryan actually ) club need to be very clear the backing for Jones is unequivocal , he has embarked on long term transition and the course is set and not for turning , will settle down jones and the players He has produced a team that Is hopeless at both ends of the pitch. The pinnacle of hopelessness in football The only reason we sometimes do okay in the middle of the pitch, is the opposition aren't that fussed about what happens in the middle of the park
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 11, 2019 7:48:11 GMT
m.skybet.com/football/manager-specials/event/24312853Looking at the Sheff Wednesday odds, and this is the managerial pool we'd be picking from if the axe fell. Looks like Rowett's going to miss out to the caretaker Bullen - so he's free! I tend to agree that Chris Hughton maybe wouldn't take it (although he seems the obvious name) I'm not 100% sure Cowley would either. Alex Neil wouldn't. Pearson? No thanks Garry Monk? Maybe Paul Cook? Not really. Stendel, the Barnsley manager? There's nothing that jumps off the page, and we'd immediately be in another absolute gamble territory with a maybe manager coming into another toxic atmosphere with his own ideas The lack of any obvious name is good news for NJ. But we needs some points in the next 4 games desperately, or the board may have a dilemma.
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Post by andycooke96 on Aug 11, 2019 7:52:59 GMT
Obviously results arent great,but there were signs of improvement yesterday. For me unless were in danger of going down he stays. Id much rather we stick by a long term project than bottle it, appoint an allardyce/moyes type and spend loads of money just to finish 8th
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 11, 2019 7:55:05 GMT
m.skybet.com/football/manager-specials/event/24312853Looking at the Sheff Wednesday odds, and this is the managerial pool we'd be picking from if the axe fell. Looks like Rowett's going to miss out to the caretaker Bullen - so he's free! I tend to agree that Chris Hughton maybe wouldn't take it (although he seems the obvious name) I'm not 100% sure Cowley would either. Alex Neil wouldn't. Pearson? No thanks Garry Monk? Maybe Paul Cook? Not really. Stendel, the Barnsley manager? There's nothing that jumps off the page, and we'd immediately be in another absolute gamble territory with a maybe manager coming into another toxic atmosphere with his own ideas The lack of any obvious name is good news for NJ. But we needs some points in the next 4 games desperately, or the board may have a dilemma. Stendel was who I wanted when we went for Jones but still an unproven commodity. It’ll be Hughton if it happens, which personally would bore the arse off me. Hopefully we’re going to give Jones until the start of November at the absolute earliest.
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Jones out
Aug 11, 2019 7:57:28 GMT
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Post by andycooke96 on Aug 11, 2019 7:57:28 GMT
m.skybet.com/football/manager-specials/event/24312853Looking at the Sheff Wednesday odds, and this is the managerial pool we'd be picking from if the axe fell. Looks like Rowett's going to miss out to the caretaker Bullen - so he's free! I tend to agree that Chris Hughton maybe wouldn't take it (although he seems the obvious name) I'm not 100% sure Cowley would either. Alex Neil wouldn't. Pearson? No thanks Garry Monk? Maybe Paul Cook? Not really. Stendel, the Barnsley manager? There's nothing that jumps off the page, and we'd immediately be in another absolute gamble territory with a maybe manager coming into another toxic atmosphere with his own ideas The lack of any obvious name is good news for NJ. But we needs some points in the next 4 games desperately, or the board may have a dilemma. Stendel was who I wanted when we went for Jones but still an unproven commodity. It’ll be Hughton if it happens, which personally would bore the arse off me. Hopefully we’re going to give Jones until the start of November at the absolute earliest. He needs 2 full seasons, completely different situations, but it took pulis that long to get it right
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